Does anyone have a "DP/Abound" II account yet?

[sunski]

I own both Marriott and Vistana mandatory. I have a corporate account for Marriott via club dues for my enrolled week. I also had a preexisting corporate account for my mandatory Vistana resale week. Now that I have been charged club dues for the Vistana week, I am expecting to have the Vistana corporate account to allow free exchanges. I've gotten many different stories from Vistana, II about the status, the latest being that II is still working on the software to convert the Vistana accounts.
So, I am just curious if anyone has a "club dues" type account with Vistana yet or is everyone just asking for a refund when they make an internal exchange?
TIA

 

[dioxide45]

I check our Vistana II account every now and then to see if the exchange fee is being waived yet, still charging the fees. We don't exchange our Vistana weeks in II as we use them in VSN. I don't know what is taking them so long.

 

[kozykritter]

I check our Vistana II account every now and then to see if the exchange fee is being waived yet, still charging the fees. We don't exchange our Vistana weeks in II as we use them in VSN. I don't know what is taking them so long.

Right, it's not like they didn't have all of 2022 to plan for this and make it happen

 

[sunski]

I got "abounded" today in II. Coincidentally? Anyone else?

 

[dioxide45]

Yup, looks like we can trade with points and Vistana to Vistana and Vistana to Marriott now have $0 exchange fee online.

 

[CalGalTraveler]

So does that mean that we can trade our 500 Abound points won via the recent contest winnings via II if we don't see anything in Abound? If so, how would that work? Do we access via our existing Vistana II account and apply Abound points? Can you search without depositing first.

FWIW even though we are enrolled, we will rarely trade our Vistana unit and have no plans to do so. Trying to figure out what we can do with 500 Abound points.

 

[dioxide45]

So does that mean that we can trade our 500 Abound points won via the recent contest winnings via II if we don't see anything in Abound? If so, how would that work? Do we access via our existing Vistana II account and apply Abound points? Can you search without depositing first.

FWIW even though we are enrolled, we will rarely trade our Vistana unit and have no plans to do so. Trying to figure out what we can do with 500 Abound points.

I don't think Plus Points can be traded in II and even if they could, the minimum for a trade is 1,000.

 

[kozykritter]

Yup, looks like we can trade with points and Vistana to Vistana and Vistana to Marriott now have $0 exchange fee online.

Huh, not in my case. I have Abound-enrolled Sheraton Flex and it still shows a $164 exchange fee when I try to do an exchange to Vistana or Marriott using 2023 usage.

 

[dioxide45]

Huh, not in my case. I have Abound-enrolled Sheraton Flex and it still shows a $164 exchange fee when I try to do an exchange to Vistana or Marriott.

Here is what I see trading SVV to SVV;

And SVV to MGV;

 

[kozykritter]

Here is what I see trading SVV to SVV;
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And SVV to MGV;
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So you are exchanging weeks. Perhaps they haven't applied it to home options yet.

 

[dioxide45]

So you are exchanging weeks. Perhaps they haven't applied it to home options yet.

That is possible. I don't have any HomeOptions to test with.

 

[kozykritter]

That is possible. I don't have any HomeOptions to test with.

I'll take it working for weeks as a step in the right direction! Guessing they will fix home options soon too. And happy for all the weeks owners for sure! I don't have any exchanges planned to do until summer so they have some time to fix it before I call and whine

 

[sunski]

Trying to figure out what we can do with 500 Abound points.

Good for a couple of nights in a small unit in Tahoe, SF, the Desert

 

[VacationForever]

I am getting $0 fees for my Vistana-Vistana and Vistana-Marriott trades in the new "Abound" Vistana account, with my Vistana week. I am glad the website has finally been upgraded.

 

[jmhpsu93]

Good for a couple of nights in a small unit in Tahoe, SF, the Desert

Or a week in Hilton Head in January at Harbour or Sunset Pointe.

 

[kozykritter]

As of this morning, they have added the Abound to home options in II and now it shows $0 fee for Vistana & Marriott exchanges using my Sheraton Flex. Whew!

One wonders if their next logical step would be to merge the II corporate accounts for Vistana and Marriott together so all enrolled/VSN eligible ownership can be viewed and used together. It would seem they are part or maybe most of the way there with the current changes.

 

[VacationForever]

As of this morning, they have added the Abound to home options in II and now it shows $0 fee for Vistana & Marriott exchanges using my Sheraton Flex. Whew!

One wonders if their next logical step would be to merge the II corporate accounts for Vistana and Marriott together so all enrolled/VSN eligible ownership can be viewed and used together. It would seem they are part or maybe most of the way there with the current changes.

If they merge, it will save my having to pay for 2 platinum II accounts, or in my case, one platinum and one standard and hate to use the standard one to trade and pay for size upgrade. To maximize revenue for II, I bet they won't merge them.

 

[dioxide45]

If they merge, it will save my having to pay for 2 platinum II accounts, or in my case, one platinum and one standard and hate to use the standard one to trade and pay for size upgrade. To maximize revenue for II, I bet they won't merge them.

Given that they just made this change, I think it is doubtful they will merge them. Merging them may also cause issues with priority and preference periods when trading within and between the systems. I suspect the cirle is now complete given that they have finally fixed the $0 exchange fee and also added the ability to exchange Abound Club Points through the Vistana corp.

It would be nice if they merged as we are in the same situation as you, our MVC account carries II Platinum but we don't pay for it on the Vistana side as we haven't used it to trade our Vistana weeks as we always use VSN.

 

[kozykritter]

Given that they just made this change, I think it is doubtful they will merge them. Merging them may also cause issues with priority and preference periods when trading within and between the systems. I suspect the cirle is now complete given that they have finally fixed the $0 exchange fee and also added the ability to exchange Abound Club Points through the Vistana corp.

It would be nice if they merged as we are in the same situation as you, our MVC account carries II Platinum but we don't pay for it on the Vistana side as we haven't used it to trade our Vistana weeks as we always use VSN.

From an acquisition standpoint, I would think their roadmap after Abound launch would be to continue to bring the administration of the programs closer and closer together to save money by streamlining and consolidating internal processes. That is what acquirers do to wring out value and what shareholders expect. My guess is that they are working towards one unified reservation system platform where ownership from both systems resides in one owner online account and can be transacted upon from there. At that point I feel they would merge corporate II accounts and unify priority periods to apply equally across/to enrolled/VSN eligible ownerships regardless of brand. These are just thoughts that to me fit the logic of what they have said in earnings calls about this vacation initiative they have been working on.

 

[sponger76]

As of this morning, they have added the Abound to home options in II and now it shows $0 fee for Vistana & Marriott exchanges using my Sheraton Flex. Whew!

One wonders if their next logical step would be to merge the II corporate accounts for Vistana and Marriott together so all enrolled/VSN eligible ownership can be viewed and used together. It would seem they are part or maybe most of the way there with the current changes.

I still don't have it, which makes me nervous that something is wrong with my account, seeing as I do have Abound-eligible Sheraton Flex points that have been elected into Abound for 2024 and 2025. At the same time, I realize I am being completely silly, since I fully intend to use those points in Abound and not II.

 

[kozykritter]

I still don't have it, which makes me nervous that something is wrong with my account, seeing as I do have Abound-eligible Sheraton Flex points that have been elected into Abound for 2024 and 2025. At the same time, I realize I am being completely silly, since I fully intend to use those points in Abound and not II.

Haha. It's not silly to want to stay ahead of things and make sure they are lined up properly for when you might need them. It is likely a staged rollout given how many owners there are. Keep checking! Here's how mine looks now:

 

[sponger76]

Haha. It's not silly to want to stay ahead of things and make sure they are lined up properly for when you might need them. It is likely a staged rollout given how many owners there are. Keep checking! Here's how mine looks now:

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Finally showed up on my II account, went through the process to check and no exchange fee for VSN/MVC resorts. *sigh of relief*