Do Deposits Made Too Far in Advance Lose Trade Power?

[jbman]

I have been doing some searches to test trade power, specifically I was waiting for some Weeks at Aruba Surf Club in April to see if they would get through Marriott preference and if they did, whether I would be able to see them with a Vacation Village at Williamsburg week.

This morning I searched two different ways, a retrade of a 2025 week which was the first week of August and then I searched with my 2026 week which I booked the July 4 week.

Both weeks have 150 TDI, and if there is any variation between 150 TDI weeks I assume the July 4 week would be more desirable.

When I search with the 2025 week, I can see some Surf Club units, with the 2026 week, nothing.

I was under the impression that the earlier you deposit the better, but is too early no good?

 

[dioxide45]

Did you try clicking the 'Search' button again when you got back those "nothing" results? There is a bug that sometimes results in no results showing but when you click 'Search' again, results will appear.

 

[jbman]

Did you try clicking the 'Search' button again when you got back those "nothing" results? There is a bug that sometimes results in no results showing but when you click 'Search' again, results will appear.

Yes, that bug did actually come up, but I did search again and it went through, I did have other resorts in the search that did show, just nothing for Surf Club.

 

[Hindsite]

I was under the impression that the earlier you deposit the better, but is too early no good?

Yes II certainly encourage early deposits, and say it helps with trading power, but I don't think it actually changes the trading power relative to a deposit 9-12 months ahead. It does, however give you more shots at getting a match before expiring so is good from that point.

Interesting observations, there are variables around supply and demand that we really don't understand how they influence and other people doing tests have found that there is a manual processing feature about 4 levels behind customer service, who can allocate matches. Perhaps the August week you had is one they wanted released, even though TP is based on the original deposit.

Purely out of interest, did you search 2025, then search 2026 and then go back and confirm that 2025 still pulled Surf club, as opposed to it getting snapped up during your searches?

Thanks for posting, it interesting to see the variations, even if it doesn't enlighten much, just knowing there is variability helps to set expectations.

 

[WaikikiFirst]

2025 week which was the first week of August

I don't have II, but think about it. Maybe someone has a OGS for your first week of August 2025 & the software is good enough to trigger that?

 

[jbman]

Yes II certainly encourage early deposits, and say it helps with trading power, but I don't think it actually changes the trading power relative to a deposit 9-12 months ahead. It does, however give you more shots at getting a match before expiring so is good from that point.

Interesting observations, there are variables around supply and demand that we really don't understand how they influence and other people doing tests have found that there is a manual processing feature about 4 levels behind customer service, who can allocate matches. Perhaps the August week you had is one they wanted released, even though TP is based on the original deposit.

Purely out of interest, did you search 2025, then search 2026 and then go back and confirm that 2025 still pulled Surf club, as opposed to it getting snapped up during your searches?

Thanks for posting, it interesting to see the variations, even if it doesn't enlighten much, just knowing there is variability helps to set expectations.

I just searched again with the 2025 week and can still see the same Surf Club weeks, and then searched again with the 2026 week to be sure and could not see them.

 

[bnoble]

Next year's deposit may be deemed to be "worth less" than this year's, for whatever reason.

Or things are just glitchy.

 

[dioxide45]

Has the 2026 week been deposited yet? Or are you searching with an undeposited week?

 

[rickandcindy23]

I have deposited weeks at 65 days out that had just as much trading power as 365 days out. If it's based on demand, and II gets more demand than they have deposits, and you deposit a week, even at 60+ days ahead, you can pretty much be guaranteed to get great trading power. My Shadow Ridge is a week like that, especially when I book President's Week and hold onto it (trying to rent the weeks), and I deposit later, it gets pretty good trading power.

Depositing way over a year out, probably not a great idea because the need for that resort at that particular time is probably low. People do not plan ahead. That's truth. I do, but I am the exception, and I change my mind a lot.

 

[klpca]

I looked briefly for a recent thread (but couldn't locate it) that discussed people having reduced trading power in 2026 vs 2025, so maybe that is what you are running into. It's always a crapshoot with II, but the best that you can do is to set up an ongoing search to give you the best shot at getting what you want.

 

[jbman]

Has the 2026 week been deposited yet? Or are you searching with an undeposited week?

I did deposit the week.

I have deposited weeks at 65 days out that had just as much trading power as 365 days out. If it's based on demand, and II gets more demand than they have deposits, and you deposit a week, even at 60+ days ahead, you can pretty much be guaranteed to get great trading power. My Shadow Ridge is a week like that, especially when I book President's Week and hold onto it (trying to rent the weeks), and I deposit later, it gets pretty good trading power.

Depositing way over a year out, probably not a great idea because the need for that resort at that particular time is probably low. People do not plan ahead. That's truth. I do, but I am the exception, and I change my mind a lot.

Certainly makes sense that most people would be planning 2025 vacations and not thinking of summer 2026, I still figured the earlier the better, but I guess that is not the case.

I looked briefly for a recent thread (but couldn't locate it) that discussed people having reduced trading power in 2026 vs 2025, so maybe that is what you are running into. It's always a crapshoot with II, but the best that you can do is to set up an ongoing search to give you the best shot at getting what you want.

I'll search and see if I can find it, I'm hoping that I haven't locked in a lesser trade power and that maybe it calculates it every time you search.

 

[dioxide45]

I did deposit the week.


Certainly makes sense that most people would be planning 2025 vacations and not thinking of summer 2026, I still figured the earlier the better, but I guess that is not the case.

I'll search and see if I can find it, I'm hoping that I haven't locked in a lesser trade power and that maybe it calculates it every time you search.

I guess another question is, how far in advance did you deposit the 2025 week?

 

[Danlop88]

I did some similar testing with 2025 and 2026 years couple weeks back with the same results for Aruba. 2025 lower TDI could see them over 2026 higher TDI but with fake reservations.

I chalked it up to II hasn’t properly calculated 2026 yet for July 4th.

 

[jbman]

I guess another question is, how far in advance did you deposit the 2025 week?

2025 week was deposited mid-December.

I did some similar testing with 2025 and 2026 years couple weeks back with the same results for Aruba. 2025 lower TDI could see them over 2026 higher TDI but with fake reservations.

I chalked it up to II hasn’t properly calculated 2026 yet for July 4th.

I did end up calling Interval to see if they could give me an explanation, the lady I was speaking with was mostly just confused why I was calling about not seeing a week I had no intention of booking anyway, but she put me on hold to try and find an answer, all she came back with was that they were not quite sure why it was happening but thought that if I had put in an ongoing search it likely would have matched that way.

Them having not set up TDI for 2026 yet, does make sense and the TDI charts still only show 2024 and 2025. You would think that they would have they ready to go at least a year in advance, if not 13 months.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Them having not set up TDI for 2026 yet, does make sense and the TDI charts still only show 2024 and 2025. You would think that they would have they ready to go at least a year in advance, if not 13 months.

I do wish they would do this already.

 

[Hindsite]

I do wish they would do this already.

Try putting a post in the II community section and tagging community_admin to see if you get a reply.

 

[GrayFal]

I just searched again with the 2025 week and can still see the same Surf Club weeks, and then searched again with the 2026 week to be sure and could not see them.

I do a lot of daily searches, I am curious what Marriott resort you are using to search and can be deposited so far out - your ownership says Grand Chateau but summer weeks are not TDI 150. Assuming one of the older resorts on HHI That allows deposits 18 months out? Week 21-33 is TDI 150.

@marmite the queen of daily searches has reported similar findings in the past; that dummy future year reservations were not as strong as current deposits. I tend to agree that this early in the year II has not determined next years TDI based on past years performance.

 

[dioxide45]

I do a lot of daily searches, I am curious what Marriott resort you are using to search and can be deposited so far out - your ownership says Grand Chateau but summer weeks are not TDI 150. Assuming one of the older resorts on HHI That allows deposits 18 months out? Week 21-33 is TDI 150.

@marmite the queen of daily searches has reported similar findings in the past; that dummy future year reservations were not as strong as current deposits. I tend to agree that this early in the year II has not determined next years TDI based on past years performance.

They are searching with Vacation Village. Not Marriott. The surf Club deposits they are seeing are out of preference.

 

[jbman]

They are searching with Vacation Village. Not Marriott. The surf Club deposits they are seeing are out of preference.

Correct, with Vacation Village you can deposit a future year by prepaying the maintenance fees.

 

[2rebecca]

I did end up calling Interval to see if they could give me an explanation, the lady I was speaking with was mostly just confused why I was calling about not seeing a week I had no intention of booking anyway, but she put me on hold to try and find an answer, all she came back with was that they were not quite sure why it was happening but thought that if I had put in an ongoing search it likely would have matched that way.

Have you tried sending an email to tugmembers@intervalintl.com? I think Mark usually replys to it and he is very helpful and knowledgeable.

 

[jbman]

Have you tried sending an email to tugmembers@intervalintl.com? I think Mark usually replys to it and he is very helpful and knowledgeable.

Thanks for the suggestion, I did email Mark and he did reply. He did say that even though TDI for 2026 has not been published, it has been set, and so that should not be the reason. Seems to be a bit of a mystery, he said they are going to be reviewing the deposits and will let me know.