Difficulty getting an ii match for Hyatt Highlands

[BJRSanDiego]

I have exchanged into Hyatt Highlands Inn a number of times. My request would sit out there for 3 or 4 months and then get a match. But I've had an ongoing request for over a year and no matches. My date range is maybe six months long and no high demand periods.

I'm wondering if something happened where no one is depositing their units or ??

I'm hoping that someone can address that question or can tell me if they were able to get a match. Please post your successes.

 

[melissy123]

I’ve been using my best Marriott week to search for this Hyatt. Nothing.

 

[Greg G]

I saw one back on Feb 21. It was a 1 bedroom for March 10
Also a 1br back in Oct of 2023 but was a last minute (like the next day)

 

[dioxide45]

When was it that you previously traded into the resort? Was it before, during or after the pandemic? Past results are not a guarantee of future performance. Also consider that II exchanges for Hyatt owners aren't as lucrative starting in 2024. So some Hyatt owners may be looking at alternatives vs depositing in to II.

 

[ScoopKona]

Marriott kneecapped the Hyatt/Interval trade system.

Because of that, Hyatt owners aren't dropping as many weeks into II -- because it's no longer the great value it once was. Hyatt owners may as well stick with internal trades because at least that's a known quantity.

Usually, I have deposited my week into II already. I haven't. I won't bother unless I can line up two or three exchanges I want. If not, I can always just stick with the internal Hyatt exchange system.

I just checked -- plenty of summer availability at Highlands. I could book a week right now.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

I’ve been using my best Marriott week to search for this Hyatt. Nothing.

I wonder if the people in ii that used to own in Highlands have sold and the new people are not depositing? I'm hoping that others will opine.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

When was it that you previously traded into the resort? Was it before, during or after the pandemic? Past results are not a guarantee of future performance. Also consider that II exchanges for Hyatt owners aren't as lucrative starting in 2024. So some Hyatt owners may be looking at alternatives vs depositing in to II.

I traded into Highlands Inn before and during Covid:
Dec 2021
May 2018
June 2017
Aug 2014
I also recall getting a match for Dec 2020 or something that I cancelled because of Covid (and most restaurants affected).

I think that @ScoopKona may be correct that Hyatt owners aren't seeing the benefit of depositing.

 

[ScoopKona]

I think that @ScoopKona may be correct that Hyatt owners aren't seeing the benefit of depositing.

That's the only difference compared to last year.
The fact I could grab (last I checked) nearly a dozen different weeks tells me the weeks are available. It's just that they're not going to II. And why should they?

 

[Hindsite]

. And why should they?

How would Hyatt owners use their ownership to go to other brands and locations? Does the change in II, make booking and renting out their ownership more viable?
I can see a need to much greater caution on ensuring value of exchanges with using II, same as there is for many ownerships that have similar levels of maint fees.

 

[ScoopKona]

How would Hyatt owners use their ownership to go to other brands and locations?

The changes are best-described as a "kneecapping of the Hyatt exchange system." Owners of smaller point packages can't trade into high-TDI, 2bd condos anymore. That is now impossible. So all of those units won't be going to II anytime soon. And the owners with higher point packages have lost at least a week's worth of exchange in II. (Depends how they use it.)

So, yes, the entire II exchange scheme is now tarnished. A great many Hyatt owners are talking about walking away from the program entirely.

All of this is great as far as Marriott is concerned. If people who own other systems want to trade into Hyatt, they'll need to buy Hyatt points. And Marriott will cheerfully sell it to them. And Hyatt owners need more points to do the same thing they could do last year. And Marriott will cheerfully sell it to them.

 

[klpca]

I agree that the change to the point values is not going to help anything with respect to inventory in II, but @BJRSanDiego hasn't had a trade there in three years, after being able to get fairly regular exchanges. I did a quick search of the sightings board and saw two deposits in 2022 and two in 2023. The resort *is* small so fewer units will always be the norm, but there were quite a few deposits for other Hyatt properties, so inventory *was* going to II. Of course the covid backlog also comes into play.

I suspect that not seeing inventory or getting an OGS filled for the past few years was a demand thing, and going forward there will probably be significant supply issues to contend with. I am a fairly regular II searcher and while seeing Monterey pop up for any property is always a bit of a surprise, I never see it at all now. And with II, there is always the issue of trade power.

Carmel was always a tough trade, especially for the nice weather months. Maybe with all of the dissatisfaction amongst current Hyatt owners, there will be a glut of resales (lol - just kidding). But this is a place where it is probably better to own than count on getting a trade. I like the resort a lot and if trading ever dried up as we are constantly being told, it would bubble up to the top of places that I would consider buying. For now I will let the dust settle and in the meantime, find other exchanges to places that I would like to visit.

 

[ScoopKona]

I suspect that not seeing inventory or getting an OGS filled for the past few years was a demand thing,

I see *plenty* of inventory. I just checked. (I stay there often -- more than any other Hyatt resort.) Interval International isn't seeing plenty of inventory.

Because of the recent changes, the chances of trading into a Hyatt just dropped to somewhere between slim and none.

 

[klpca]

I see *plenty* of inventory. I just checked. (I stay there often -- more than any other Hyatt resort.) Interval International isn't seeing plenty of inventory.

Because of the recent changes, the chances of trading into a Hyatt just dropped to somewhere between slim and none.

While I agree, I was talking about the limited availability in II for the *past* few years. I agree that with the changes on the Hyatt side, inventory in II going forward will be even more limited.

 

[ScoopKona]

While I agree, I was talking about the limited availability in II for the *past* few years. I agree that with the changes on the Hyatt side, inventory in II going forward will be even more limited.

I'm coming up short looking for an analogy. Last time I checked, there were a dozen prime summer weeks to pick and choose from. That tells me there is plenty of inventory available.

While I want Interval to work well, because that's the ballfield I play in, inventory is inventory. Except for other timeshare system owners looking to trade in, where that inventory goes doesn't matter. Hyatt Highlands Inn owners are relinquishing their condo, and trading. And enough of them are doing so that the entire month of June is wide-open.

We're already at/past the window for summer deposits into II. So anything in the II system now is likely to be the only inventory in the system this summer.

From my perspective, Marriott shot themselves in the foot, big time. From their perspective, they're probably thinking this is going to mean a rush to buy from them.

 

[klpca]

I'm coming up short looking for an analogy. Last time I checked, there were a dozen prime summer weeks to pick and choose from. That tells me there is plenty of inventory available.

While I want Interval to work well, because that's the ballfield I play in, inventory is inventory. Except for other timeshare system owners looking to trade in, where that inventory goes doesn't matter. Hyatt Highlands Inn owners are relinquishing their condo, and trading. And enough of them are doing so that the entire month of June is wide-open.

We're already at/past the window for summer deposits into II. So anything in the II system now is likely to be the only inventory in the system this summer.

From my perspective, Marriott shot themselves in the foot, big time. From their perspective, they're probably thinking this is going to mean a rush to buy from them.

I hear what you are saying but I have a question about 2022/2023 inventory that you may be able to answer. Was there similar summer inventory held in Hyatt that didn't make it into II during those years? I don't own Hyatt so I have no idea - I am completely speculating that that inventory was used by internal trades. Going forward from 2024 is a completely different game between Hyatt/II. And I agree, the Marriott purchase is the issue. It is as if they plan to monetize every thing that they possibly can and if it pisses off current owners, all the better to get that inventory back at no cost to be able to put it into the trust and resell as points.

 

[ScoopKona]

Was there similar summer inventory held in Hyatt that didn't make it into II during those years?

I've traded into Highlands for the past three years -- the week I wanted; the unit size I wanted. And each time, I got a condo with an incredible view. (There are some which are "not so much.")

Yes, the inventory has been there.

 

[klpca]

I've traded into Highlands for the past three years -- the week I wanted; the unit size I wanted. And each time, I got a condo with an incredible view. (There are some which are "not so much.")

Yes, the inventory has been there.

Weird that @BJRSanDiego wasn't able to get a trade.

 

[ScoopKona]

Weird that @BJRSanDiego wasn't able to get a trade.

I don't think he's using the internal Hyatt exchange system.

Any Hyatt owner can hop onto the Hyatt timeshare "clubhouse" website and grab a summer Highlands week right now. Unless a Highland owner makes an Interval exchange (which is increasingly unlikely because Marriott is run by idiots), those weeks simply aren't available in II. And now neither are all the bronze and silver II weeks which are essentially useless in II as of Jan. 1.

Marriott is probably twirling their mustache and dreaming of all the portfolio point programs they're going to sell now that they've pulled the rug out from under Hyatt exchangers. Sadly, some people probably will buy.

 

[klpca]

I don't think he's using the internal Hyatt exchange system.

Any Hyatt owner can hop onto the Hyatt timeshare "clubhouse" website and grab a summer Highlands week right now. Unless a Highland owner makes an Interval exchange (which is increasingly unlikely because Marriott is run by idiots), those weeks simply aren't available in II. And now neither are all the bronze and silver II weeks which are essentially useless in II as of Jan. 1.

Marriott is probably twirling their mustache and dreaming of all the portfolio point programs they're going to sell now that they've pulled the rug out from under Hyatt exchangers. Sadly, some people probably will buy.

Ok. I didn't realize that you were talking about the internal trading system. I thought that you were also using II for your exchanges. I seems like those weeks were never making it into II, and now even the low season weeks won't make it there either.

As with all things timeshare, we are always playing in someone else's sandbox, and they get to make the rules. The best that we can do is learn the rules and use them to find the sweet spot for us. It is always frustrating when the rules change, but that is the downside of playing this game.

@BJRSanDiego sorry that the trades haven't been coming through like they used to. Time to find another sandbox I suppose.

 

[HudsHut]

@BJRSanDiego
I also saw the March 10 a few weeks ago.

If I see another, I'll contact you.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

@ScoopKona is correct - - I'm trying to exchange through ii.

 

[ScoopKona]

@ScoopKona is correct - - I'm trying to exchange through ii.

The only way I think this is likely to happen is to put in a wide-net exchange request with Interval -- "Highlands, any week, any unit. Here's the exchange fee in advance. Book the first thing which pops up. Don't call to confirm. Just book it. Call me if I get lucky."

This is what I do for castles/abbeys in Europe which are almost never available. They're among my favorite vacations ever. So I don't care if I'm "stuck" with Knocktopher Abbey in Ireland in November. It's going to be brilliant regardless.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

The only way I think this is likely to happen is to put in a wide-net exchange request with Interval -- "Highlands, any week, any unit. Here's the exchange fee in advance. Book the first thing which pops up. Don't call to confirm. Just book it. Call me if I get lucky."

This is what I do for castles/abbeys in Europe which are almost never available. They're among my favorite vacations ever. So I don't care if I'm "stuck" with Knocktopher Abbey in Ireland in November. It's going to be brilliant regardless.

Thanks. That's pretty much what I've done - - my request spans over a year and any 1 BR. I don't know if they have efficiencies and I'd rather not end up with an efficiency. But, on the advice of other smart people I'm going to add Pacific Grove and Pine Acres. Not Hyatt quality but nevertheless it would be fun. I enjoy wine tasting in Carmel Village. Nice Pinots. Plus I enjoy a hike in Los Lobos State Park. And restaurants in Carmel by the Sea....

 

[VacationForever]

Thanks. That's pretty much what I've done - - my request spans over a year and any 1 BR. I don't know if they have efficiencies and I'd rather not end up with an efficiency. But, on the advice of other smart people I'm going to add Pacific Grove and Pine Acres. Not Hyatt quality but nevertheless it would be fun. I enjoy wine tasting in Carmel Village. Nice Pinots. Plus I enjoy a hike in Los Lobos State Park. And restaurants in Carmel by the Sea....

We are spending a month in the summer at Worldmark Marina Dunes, 20 minutes from Carmel and Monterey. I tried trading into Hyatt Highlands Inn many years ago and never got a match in II. With WM, we have to book right at 13 months.

 

[SunandFun83]

I have exchanged into Hyatt Highlands Inn a number of times. My request would sit out there for 3 or 4 months and then get a match. But I've had an ongoing request for over a year and no matches. My date range is maybe six months long and no high demand periods.

I'm wondering if something happened where no one is depositing their units or ??

I'm hoping that someone can address that question or can tell me if they were able to get a match. Please post your successes.

Hyatt owners do not deposit weeks. The Hyatt system has owners allocate a number of points to make an exchange. The Hyatt properties / or Hyatt corporate decides what weeks to deposit. Searching for shoulder season dates and a wide date range improves your chances. You can also consider paying a Hyatt owner to book your stay. Hyatt inventory is released 6 months ahead.

There is a Hyatt owner Facebook page. Costs you more than an exchange, but a more direct way to reserve.