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Depositing MVC Points into II [MERGED]

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I have some DPs expiring in July 2021. I am wondering how I deposit DPs in II. Is there a minimum number of DPs you can deposit to be eligible for an II exchange? Or do you book a week and then deposit it?
 

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You don't book a week to deposit. Here is the chart for DC points conversion to an II week. You get to pick the TDI and size. You can only use II week to book non-Marriott timeshare stay. If you pick a 1BR and the week can "see" a 2BR, you pay for the size upgrade fee in II.

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Travel Demand Index (TDI) Based exchange values
Studio1-Bdrm2-Bdrm3-Bdrm4-Bdrm
Peak140-1502,2503,0004,5006,0007,000
High115-1351,7502,7504,0005,0006,000
Medium90-1101,5002,2503,0004,0005,000
Low50-851,0001,5002,2503,0004,000
 

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We sold our week 26 Harbour Point last year. We owned HPT for 20 years and used it exclusively for exchanging through II and was always able to get high demand weeks at pretty much any of the MVC resorts we were interested in visiting. Using HPT we could exchange into any 2 BR, if it was available. For example, our last trade using our HPT was a 2 BR week at Crystal Shores the first week of February in 2019, especially in comparison to weeks exchange. If I use the chart above, it would have taken 4500 points to get the same exchange, which is not much different than reserving directly through MVC. I know this should be expected, but it seems like exchanging through II using DC points is not a good deal. Am I missing something?

I'm also curious, if you can exchange in the same way you could when exchanging weeks. Can you see what is available before actually depositing points? Can you deposit points and use them for exchange after they expire similar to weeks? Can you do a "request first" type exchange like you can with weeks?
 

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We sold our week 26 Harbour Point last year. We owned HPT for 20 years and used it exclusively for exchanging through II and was always able to get high demand weeks at pretty much any of the MVC resorts we were interested in visiting. Using HPT we could exchange into any 2 BR, if it was available. For example, our last trade using our HPT was a 2 BR week at Crystal Shores the first week of February in 2019, especially in comparison to weeks exchange. If I use the chart above, it would have taken 4500 points to get the same exchange, which is not much different than reserving directly through MVC. I know this should be expected, but it seems like exchanging through II using DC points is not a good deal. Am I missing something?

I'm also curious, if you can exchange in the same way you could when exchanging weeks. Can you see what is available before actually depositing points? Can you deposit points and use them for exchange after they expire similar to weeks? Can you do a "request first" type exchange like you can with weeks?

Two ways for DC points owners to exchange on II.
In both cases you can not exchange into an MVC property via II.
DC points owners must use the points exchange on MVC for MVC resorts.
I think many people agree that exchanging weeks on II is a better “value” financially ,although there is added flexibility with points which may have more value to some.

The first way to exchange DC points on II is you retain your DC points in your MVC account until you actually confirm an exchange. You can click on the points ownership in your II account and search inventory or place a request first. The points retain their original expiration date and you need to complete travel before they expire either using them on II or MVC.
I have been told that the II and MVC computer systems are not linked so II doesn’t know how many points you may have available and this needs to be confirmed before the exchange is completely confirmed and the DC points are deducted for the exchange. You can’t exchange into MVC properties, you can exchange into Vistana/ Sheraton/Westin with no exchange fee from your corporate II account, all other resorts require an exchange fee of 209.

The other choice is what vacationforever shows above- you call MVC and have your points converted into a week according to the size/season chart. The week deposited into II is good for 2 years and you can upsize for the standard fee or exchange into another season if available. This is a good method to use with points that will be expiring before you can use them. Still can’t exchange into MVC, also no exchange fee for V/S/W, 209 for other resorts. I have had a week in my account for a year from leftover points. I chose a smaller unit at a higher season and when I search with have have always seen plenty of highly rated resorts with up sizes available.
 
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You don't book a week to deposit. Here is the chart for DC points conversion to an II week. You get to pick the TDI and size. You can only use II week to book non-Marriott timeshare stay. If you pick a 1BR and the week can "see" a 2BR, you pay for the size upgrade fee in II.

Travel Demand Index (TDI) Based exchange values
TDI
Range
Full-Week Exchange Values
Studio1-Bdrm2-Bdrm3-Bdrm4-Bdrm
Peak140-1502,2503,0004,5006,0007,000
High115-1351,7502,7504,0005,0006,000
Medium90-1101,5002,2503,0004,0005,000
Low50-851,0001,5002,2503,0004,000
And this is a horrible way to use points......

For example, I can go to Hilton Head in low(est) season and stay at Grande Ocean for a week for 825 points.
 

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While it may be a "horrible" way to use DC points, the issue on hand for many of us is that we have many banked DC points that will expire in July 2021 due to the inability to use them this year. I have charted out how I will be using them up - 4 golf rounds at Desert Springs in Palm Desert, resort credits at Desert Springs in Feb and Ko Olina in April and leftover points will be converted into weeks to be deposited into II.
 
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You could rent the points or find someone who wants to go to a resort and reserve days/weeks with the points and then rent it. You could give the points to a friend or family member. There are lots of things you can do with the points without losing them. There's a lot of time before they expire.
 

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You could rent the points or find someone who wants to go to a resort and reserve days/weeks with the points and then rent it. You could give the points to a friend or family member. There are lots of things you can do with the points without losing them. There's a lot of time before they expire.
Normal times, yes. These are not normal times.
 

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I have charted out how I will be using them up - 4 golf rounds at Desert Springs in Palm Desert...

This reminds me of back in the days I had Marriott Rewards points out the kazoo. I had a 13 year old who was just starting to play golf. I used a bunch of my Marriott Rewards Points to send him to the Marriott Gold School at Lake of the Ozarks, MO. He was probably the only one there under the age of 45-50 but it worked out well. He learned to play golf the right way and is still a 3 handicap at age 43. As I remember it my now ex-wife was apoplectic about leaving a 13 year old with a bunch of businessmen for a week but it worked out great. They pretty much treated him like one of their Sons...

George
 

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This reminds me of back in the days I had Marriott Rewards points out the kazoo. I had a 13 year old who was just starting to play golf. I used a bunch of my Marriott Rewards Points to send him to the Marriott Gold School at Lake of the Ozarks, MO. He was probably the only one there under the age of 45-50 but it worked out well. He learned to play golf the right way and is still a 3 handicap at age 43. As I remember it my now ex-wife was apoplectic about leaving a 13 year old with a bunch of businessmen for a week but it worked out great. They pretty much treated him like one of their Sons...

George
Using Destination Club points to pay for golf academy is also an option. You did well for your son. I wish my parents did that for me when I was 13! It is alot harder to get good at golf when we start late in life.
 
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This reminds me of back in the days I had Marriott Rewards points out the kazoo. I had a 13 year old who was just starting to play golf. I used a bunch of my Marriott Rewards Points to send him to the Marriott Gold School at Lake of the Ozarks, MO. He was probably the only one there under the age of 45-50 but it worked out well. He learned to play golf the right way and is still a 3 handicap at age 43. As I remember it my now ex-wife was apoplectic about leaving a 13 year old with a bunch of businessmen for a week but it worked out great. They pretty much treated him like one of their Sons...

George
Unless he is a golf pro, that academy has probably cost him a lot of money over the years :ROFLMAO:
 

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And this is a horrible way to use points......

For example, I can go to Hilton Head in low(est) season and stay at Grande Ocean for a week for 825 points.

I respectfully disagre. I once used 4500 DP points and was able to book 3 1br villas at a 5 star Mexico (non all inclusive) resort Which would have otherwise cost close to $8,000 cash if booked that way.
 

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I respectfully disagre. I once used 4500 DP points and was able to book 3 1br villas at a 5 star Mexico (non all inclusive) resort Which would have otherwise cost close to $8,000 cash if booked that way.
That doesn't make sense given the chart earlier in the thread. Maybe I just don't understand enough about it.
 

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That doesn't make sense given the chart earlier in the thread. Maybe I just don't understand enough about it.
They would have been 1BR Low season according to the chart. Three of them for a total of 4,500 DC points.
 

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Does 2 years start from the date that you call MVC to deposit the points-equivalent week into II?

The week that MVC deposited for me was actually about 3 weeks into the future from when I called do I actually got 2 years and 1 month to use it.
But I believe that they give you a week close to the date you call.
So it makes sense to wait until the points are close to expiring to call- keeps all the options open as long as possible.
 

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I wonder if it would be better to book a week and deposit into ThirdHome. ThirdHome gives you 2 years from the reservation date so you can actually get three years to use it. I guess it only makes sense if you can get a super peak week since otherwise the keys are low.
 

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Does 2 years start from the date that you call MVC to deposit the points-equivalent week into II?

So what was the answer to this?

Also, can you deposit any amount of DPs into II or does it need to be in certain increments?
 

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So what was the answer to this?
It was answered in post #18. It is actually based on the underlying week that Marriott allocates/transfers to your II account. Two years from the checkout date of the week that they deposited.
 

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So what was the answer to this?

Also, can you deposit any amount of DPs into II or does it need to be in certain increments?

certain increments- see post #2 above.
or log onto MVC, chose use points and then interval international.
 

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I'll just add on to this thread rather my one I just created...

Can you use points in a holding account (either 60- or 120-day) to do this? I would assume so as you're booking them last minute anyway.
 

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I'll just add on to this thread rather my one I just created...

Can you use points in a holding account (either 60- or 120-day) to do this? I would assume so as you're booking them last minute anyway.

Are you asking if you can have holding account points converted into a week and deposited into II?
 

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And this is a horrible way to use points......
For example, I can go to Hilton Head in low(est) season and stay at Grande Ocean for a week for 825 points.

You have a very Marriott-centric view of the world. I have traded my Marriott weeks for non-Marriotts many times and have been very happy with the exchange. There are locations where we want to travel to that have no Marriott timeshares or where the Marriott timeshare is not as nice as alternative timeshares. To name just a few - consider Breckenridge, Jackson Hole, Whistler, northern Tahoe, Key West, etc.
 
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