Cypress Harbour trade power for Hawaii

[carmenveen]

Considering purchasing a High week (1-17, 51-52) at Cypress Harbour. Cost would be somewhere in the neighborhood of $3000 after purchase price, closing fees, and maintenance dues for 2021.
We currently own points with Disney Vacation Club, and would use the Cypress Harbor week at, well, Cypress Harbour, but we also hope to be able to trade our CH week for something like Marriott Ko Olina every other year or so. I assume that this would have to be done through Interval International?

I am wondering if this is a sound strategy, and how successful we would be. We love Hawaii, but just can't see going every year, and hope that by purchasing into CH, we will get the best of both worlds.

Thanks in advance.

 

[lisa3635]

I think you’d be fine as far as trading power to get Ko olina if flexible on dates, I don’t believe cypress locks off though, we’ve stayed there twice and it’s a great resort but I think it’s all dedicated 2 bedrooms. If you’re likely to trade sometimes you might consider a resort that locks off like grand vista unless you’re set on CH.

 

[Theiggy]

I am not an expert there are many others here who can help you more. But in my opinion I wouldn’t pay more than 0 for that week. If you will use a week in Orlando buy Grande Vista bc you can lock it off and trade for two weeks in Interval. They aren’t too much money to obtain and can probably be had for less than 3k.

If you want to trade for Hawaii you would deposit the highest TDI week you can get in Orlando. Hawaii is a tough trade when not covid times but times have changed.

I’m sure you will get more responses good luck.


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[Big Matt]

I am not an expert there are many others here who can help you more. But in my opinion I wouldn’t pay more than 0 for that week. If you will use a week in Orlando buy Grande Vista bc you can lock it off and trade for two weeks in Interval. They aren’t too much money to obtain and can probably be had for less than 3k.

If you want to trade for Hawaii you would deposit the highest TDI week you can get in Orlando. Hawaii is a tough trade when not covid times but times have changed.

I’m sure you will get more responses good luck.


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the 3k included closing costs, 2021 fees, and purchase price. The actual sales price would be closer to $1k which is fair IMO. I would still get GV instead. You can get a lot for a Platinum studio.

 

[Theiggy]

the 3k included closing costs, 2021 fees, and purchase price. The actual sales price would be closer to $1k which is fair IMO. I would still get GV instead. You can get a lot for a Platinum studio.

You are right I typed a quick response and didn’t notice that it included this year’s fees. I still wouldn’t pay 1k for cypress harbor simply bc it doesn’t lock off.


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[Big Matt]

You are right I typed a quick response and didn’t notice that it included this year’s fees. I still wouldn’t pay 1k for cypress harbor simply bc it doesn’t lock off.


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That's why I own a GV lock off and trade into CH when I choose to go there.

 

[dioxide45]

That's why I own a GV lock off and trade into CH when I choose to go there.

We have done that, our first year of ownership, but now we just buy a getaway. The cost of the getaway is usually less than half the MFs on your MGV week. The only time we usually trade back into Orlando now is if we want to go to Lakeshore Reserve or we are getting a 3BR using our studio or 1BR unit.

 

[Davey54321]

We own at Cypress Harbour (resale purchase, our first, many many moons ago) and we have almost always traded it - in II pre DC and for points mostly since. We have successfully traded it for just about any place we wanted to go to, including Ko Olina and Maui/MMO, Newport Coast, Marbella, Paris Disney etc...It has been awhile since we traded in II, but I suspect you wont have that much of a problem as long as you are flexible datewise and can wait it out...
Vicki

 

[carmenveen]

Very interesting and appreciated responses. I have never considered Grand Vista. Strictly speaking, which is considered the better resort: Cypress Harbour or Grand Vista? I have heard very good things about CH, but am entirely unfamiliar with GV. We are empty nesters.

 

[dioxide45]

Very interesting and appreciated responses. I have never considered Grand Vista. Strictly speaking, which is considered the better resort: Cypress Harbour or Grand Vista? I have heard very good things about CH, but am entirely unfamiliar with GV. We are empty nesters.

From a pure II trading perspective, Grande Vista is more desirable since you can lock it off and get two trades out of the one week. If you never plan to actually use your home resort, then how the actual resort is doesn't matter much. Even if you do plan to use or go to Cypress Harbour, it is an easy trade with MGV or a cheap getaway. So I would suggest looking at it from a pure trading perspective and Grande Vista has the edge there because of the flexibility of lock off.

 

[carmenveen]

From a pure II trading perspective, Grande Vista is more desirable since you can lock it off and get two trades out of the one week. If you never plan to actually use your home resort, then how the actual resort is doesn't matter much. Even if you do plan to use or go to Cypress Harbour, it is an easy trade with MGV or a cheap getaway. So I would suggest looking at it from a pure trading perspective and Grande Vista has the edge there because of the flexibility of lock off.

Duly noted. Makes sense. Thank you.

 

[Big Matt]

We have done that, our first year of ownership, but now we just buy a getaway. The cost of the getaway is usually less than half the MFs on your MGV week. The only time we usually trade back into Orlando now is if we want to go to Lakeshore Reserve or we are getting a 3BR using our studio or 1BR unit.

That's good advice. In looking back at my trades into CH my memory served me wrong. I traded in twice with ACs, once with Foxrun, once with a GV studio, and once with a 1BR. To my surprise, I haven't been there for almost 8 years.

 

[CULox99]

I just purchased a 2 BR Platinum at Grande Vista for $1,400. With Closing Costs, I was all in at $1,990 with first rights for usage in 2022. Passed ROFR in about a week. There are weeks out there for about $2k, but negotiate and make offers until you find someone willing to sell as they will clear ROFR as of now.

 

[Dean]

I would not buy CH with the plans to trade EOY to HI. Personally I might not even buy in Orlando even if I wanted to stay there half the time. I'd buy something with either higher trading power or cheaper fees that is a lockout. Grande Vista being a lockout would be reasonable as would Willow Ridge, Manor Club or Grand Chateau all Platinum or possibly Ocean Pointe Gold. You may also want to consider one of the CA desert options for Platinum if you can get them cheaply enough. You can trade back to Orlando easily with a studio and often get getaways that are cheap enough to justify not exchanging at all. HI is workable with all those as long as you won't need a 2 BR and reserve plus request a full year out and are flexible over several weeks. A 2BR is feasible for some resorts but not for all.