Convert Week to Points or Deposit to II?

[jpa2825]

We have a Platinum, 2BR + 2BA Ocean Side View at Ocean Pointe that we got in a hybrid purchase years ago to get us to Presidential. We don't have any real desire to book at week at OP or even lock off and split into 2 weeks so we have always converted to DPs (4,325 points). Our deadline is OCT 31 to convert the 2025 week into DPs and before I do the same thing again, I just wanted to poll the collective wisdom to see if others thought there was a better use.

From past experience and research here, neither the trade for Bonvoy Points nor deposit into Marriott Rental Program seem to make sense.

Other options include II Exchange - Owner Deposit and II Exchange - Marriott Deposit. I must admit we have struggled to fully understand II since our ownership began. We have tried on a few occasions but haven't had any luck. We even deposited some expiring points from COVID into II and 1 expired without being used and another we extended to end of 2024 by reserving an Orlando placeholder in the hopes of exchanging that for something we could use. It is now mid-OCT and the Orlando reservation is still sitting in our II account.

Like I said, default is to convert to 4,325 DPs which we know how to use and think we get good value with since we almost always book inside 60 days to get the 30% discount.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

[jwalk03]

If there is still any availability and you can get a good Feb/Mar week you can rent it fairly easily for $3k-$4k.

It would also trade very well if you lock off and deposit the 2 sides and put in an ongoing search for other Marriott resorts you might be interested in. Then you could get 2 full weeks of vacation out of it if you are flexible.

No sure why you don't have a desire to visit Ocean Pointe- but it is also a very nice resort and one of my favorites actually. So staying is also a good option if you like going to the beach.

 

[dioxide45]

If you haven't used II that much, I am not sure this is the best time to figure it out. Though you would get two extra years to use the deposits. Personally I could get about >6,000 points value out of those deposits in II. Meaning the weeks I could exchange for would cost 6,000+ points if using Club Points. It does require me to travel for 7 nights for the most value. So you lose flexibility. If you don't already have a week reserved, locking off and booking good Platinum weeks might not be possible before the October 31 deadline. At this point you seem to be comfortable with using Club Points, so just go with that. Renting is another option, again if you can get a good reservation. Though renting comes with some risks also. There is a lot more competition out there now.

 

[Fasttr]

If you are happy with the value you have been getting by converting to Abound points, I say stay in your comfort zone.

 

[Pamplemousse]

We have a Platinum, 2BR + 2BA Ocean Side View at Ocean Pointe that we got in a hybrid purchase years ago to get us to Presidential. We don't have any real desire to book at week at OP or even lock off and split into 2 weeks so we have always converted to DPs (4,325 points). Our deadline is OCT 31 to convert the 2025 week into DPs and before I do the same thing again, I just wanted to poll the collective wisdom to see if others thought there was a better use.

From past experience and research here, neither the trade for Bonvoy Points nor deposit into Marriott Rental Program seem to make sense.

Other options include II Exchange - Owner Deposit and II Exchange - Marriott Deposit. I must admit we have struggled to fully understand II since our ownership began. We have tried on a few occasions but haven't had any luck. We even deposited some expiring points from COVID into II and 1 expired without being used and another we extended to end of 2024 by reserving an Orlando placeholder in the hopes of exchanging that for something we could use. It is now mid-OCT and the Orlando reservation is still sitting in our II account.

Like I said, default is to convert to 4,325 DPs which we know how to use and think we get good value with since we almost always book inside 60 days to get the 30% discount.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

I agree with dioxide that there is great value- maybe even greater value- to locking off and depositing a high TDI week into II and requesting 2 full week stays at other abound properties (or elsewhere)- but you do have to take the time to learn how to use II and make it work to your advantage. Points are certainly the easier straight up transaction.

 

[dougp26364]

I can get more value out of it Silver Season Ocean Pointe ownership exchanging weeks but we value the flexibility of booking points, at least at this point in our lives. Once my wife retires I might value having more time than the points will by and go back to exchanging through II

 

[davidvel]

I agree highest value is likely II, though you don't control the view. Always do owner deposit with a high value week. Marriott deposit is where they pick the week, think about it.

I would suggest if you have lost weeks/points in the past, do an II lock-off deposit for next year and give it a go. As mentioned you have 2 years after the reservation date to use it. I presume your week is enrolled as you mentioned a hybrid purchase. Make sure you deposit to the correct II account if you have a non-enrolled account. You will pay no II dues, no exchange fees, no lockoff fees. Only size upgrade fees outside of 60 days.

 

[Red elephant]

I have found so much value in locking off and getting 2 separate weeks for the price of one MF. It’s even more cost effective using enrolled weeks as you have no added fees!! With the significant rise in MF for those Orlando properties I think it’s the best you can do now at this point to make it worth it. Just my 2 cents.

 

[jpa2825]

Fascinating stuff. Going to discuss with the wife. Help is greatly appreciated.

We are open to the risk of either renting (2 separate rentals probably results in >$ than 1 rental week of the full villa) or depositing the 2 weeks and seeking to learn II (with Marriott properties included as the only experience we have had is non-Marriott in II based on what / when we deposited) before expiration. As others mentioned, default position if we can't get comfortable will be to convert 2025 to DPs as we have done previously and maybe take the risk with the 2026 week when there is > availability if we go the rental route.

For more info, current calendar of availability (better than I would have expected) from the Deluxe Guest Room in 2025 is below:

Availability for the Master Suite is below:

Availability for the Full Villa is here:

(yellow = available check-in date; white = in season but not available for check-in; grey = out of season)