Class Action Lawsuit

[honest2005]

Have you been subjected to a timeshare presentation? If so, is it only me who feels that the people behind this multi-million business are practicing illegal sale strategies such as pressuring, LYING big time, mis-informing, so on so forth...
Why no one is complaining?

Is it time for a class action lawsuit? Please give your opinion.

I am raising this issue after my experience buying and trying to use my timeshare with westgate resort. Prior to the famous westgate presentation, I have not even heard of the concept of a timeshare... nor of a respectable state like Florida allowing such a large business like WR to perform legally the way they do. Of course whoever does the budget for Florida state should be happy to collect the badly needed property tax money from WR. ... talking about the corruption and fraud in the estate market and who lets it go unchecked...

If you have a conflict of interest in that you are benefiting from the timeshare industry, by all means still do express yourself and say no for a lawsuit.
If you do not have a conflict of interest and are asking for fair deal, then let that be heard to. It is for everyone's benefit.

Thank you

 

[DeniseM]

Why no one is complaining?

Welcome to TUG!

Actually we discuss/complain about the sales practices of the developers all the time, here on TUG.

However, before I join your class action suite, it would be nice to know more about you....

Are you an attorney?
Have you bought a timeshare from the developer?

 

[gmarine]

Against who? Do you have a complaint against a particular developer or do you want to sue the entire timeshare industry as a whole.

 

[Timeshare Von]

Have you been subjected to a timeshare presentation? If so, is it only me who feels that the people behind this multi-million business are practicing illegal sale strategies such as pressuring, LYING big time, mis-informing, so on so forth...
Why no one is complaining?

Is it time for a class action lawsuit? If so, please give your opinion.

"Subjected to" a timeshare presentation? I would argue that nobody goes to them unwillingly. Once there, what happens may not be exactly what folks expect . . . but I doubt anyone has been subjected to a presentation.

 

[Eric]

Pressuring ?
I assume you don't own a car ?

Have you been subjected to a timeshare presentation? If so, is it only me who feels that the people behind this multi-million business are practicing illegal sale strategies such as pressuring, LYING big time, mis-informing, so on so forth...
Why no one is complaining?

Is it time for a class action lawsuit? If so, please give your opinion.

 

[AwayWeGo]

I've Said It Before & I'll Say It Again -- We Need A New Timeshare Biz Model.

Is it time for a class action lawsuit?

Only if you know some class action attorneys that you would like to enrich.

A class action lawsuit against the timeshare sellers -- even if it succeeded -- would not accomplish much beyond making the timeshare sellers henceforth & forevermore issue some kind of disclaimer before starting their spiel & after ending their spiel and (most important) racking up some major serious attorney fees for the lawyers involved.

For regular walking around people, there would be no significant benefit.

What's really needed I'm sure you will agree is a no-baloney timeshare business model featuring no-pressure sales, realistic prices, & educated consumers. Among other things, that will narrow the price gap between developer sales & resales, to the benefit of all concerned.

Think of a new system patterned after Wal*Mart for "new" timeshares & CarMax for "used" timeshares.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

[dougp26364]

Sure I'll join another class action lawsuit. I can always use another nickel in my pocket. That's about all your gonna get once the lawyers take their cut.

No one is forced to go through a timeshare presentation. No one has a gun pointed at their head to sit through a presentation and every state has a mandatory cooling off period where the participant, if they purchased, can cancel the contract for any reason they choose including they just decided they didn't want to make the purchase.

Sorry, you might be ticked off but bringing another worthless class action lawsuit would be like spitting into the wind. It's nothing but a waste of time and good money.

 

[Cathy in Boston]

Does this guy understand that this board consists of people who willingly and mostly happily own timeshares?? He might want to look around for another board to post this on....:rofl: :rofl:

 

[Jim C]

Wonder what this guy's schtick really is. "Respectable state like Florida?" What is that supposed to mean? Nice that he allows folks to express themselves and say no to a lawsuit. What lawsuit, what are you smoking?

 

[applegirl]

No thanks

If no one bought originally from the developer, none of us would have our timeshare vacations, regardless of whether you bought developer or resale.
It has to start somewhere.

We bought our Marriott week 5 years ago from Marriott. Even though we overpayed and could have bought resale (which we will do next time), we have been very happy with our purchase and all of our timeshare vacations so far. Many, many happy family memories and many more to come.

Even though their sales tactics should be more "truthful", I wouldn't be interested in a lawsuit, thank you very much. They might be high pressure, but they don't hold a gun to your head, and if you are an underinformed consumer (like we were ), that's your fault.

Janna

 

[laura1957]

If no one bought originally from the developer, none of us would have our timeshare vacations, regardless of whether you bought developer or resale.
It has to start somewhere.

We bought our Marriott week 5 years ago from Marriott. Even though we overpayed and could have bought resale (which we will do next time), we have been very happy with our purchase and all of our timeshare vacations so far. Many, many happy family memories and many more to come.

Even though their sales tactics should be more "truthful", I wouldn't be interested in a lawsuit, thank you very much. They might be high pressure, but they don't hold a gun to your head, and if you are an underinformed consumer (like we were ), that's your fault.

Janna

Exactly how I feel. Yes, I paid too much for my first timeshare onsite - but it was worth it to us.

 

[AwayWeGo]

New Biz Model Badly Needed.

If no one bought originally from the developer, none of us would have our timeshare vacations, regardless of whether you bought developer or resale.
It has to start somewhere.

If nobody went for those misleading, half-truthing, arm-twisting, guilt-trippping high-pressure sales pitches, the timeshare companies would have to give up that marketing method in favor of something more enlightened & consumer-friendly.

Shux, new cars & used cars are still sold the old-fashioned way. But not all of'm. Now, some car dealers are strictly no-haggle.

I have never bought a "new" timeshare, but I'd be far more interested if the timeshare companies would mothball the old way of selling timeshares for something more along the lines of Wal*Mart.

If that happened, I could well do without attending timeshare tours for freebies.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

[Brett]

the OP has one post so far about lawsuits and timeshares, might be one of those lawyers trolling for victims,
but I kind of agree about being unduly pressured with all sorts of things such as auto sales, insurance, telemarketing, etc. - it's a long list of possible class action lawsuits!

 

[CMF]

I love a good post and run.

Don't you?

Gotta go!


Charles

 

[Wonka]

Why is everyone being so hard on this guy? It's a reasonable question, but probably not very probable an attorney would accept the case...too much work...too much probability of losing. Many people have been lied to and duped into purchasing a timeshare. The recission periods are far too short to be practical since most purchases are an emotional buy while the buyer is vacationing.

 

[pianodinosaur]

I have purchased directly from Hilton. I really love how timesharing has improved the quality of our lives. Hilton has been totally honest and no Hilton sales rep has ever lied to me. I visited the Marriot TS in Lake Tahoe and the Marriot people seemed perfectly reasonable as well. I just happen to think the Hilton system is much more flexible.

However, we were subjected to a high pressure sales presentation in Mexico. We were not forced to attend. Eventhough we did not purchase, we received all the discounts that were promised prior to the presentation.

 

[Sandy VDH]

Did you notice posted in his signature that he owns WESTGATE! Enough said right there.

 

[timeos2]

Wastegate could make the Pope swear - what cahnce to mere mortals have?

Did you notice posted in his signature that he owns WESTGATE! Enough said right there.

I hadn't but you got it right. Even if they simply had a regular, hours long, arm twisting, lie filled, pressure packed presentation from Wastegate - forget one that can easily get nasty - it is likely they would hate timeshare and anyone associated with it. Of course if they BOUGHT from the developer then a lifetime of misery was unleashed on this guy. And the "Palace" is one of the real armpits of timeshares in Orlando - even for Wastegate who at best has mediocre resorts. You gotta feel sorry for him.

 

[Kal]

Oh man, don't harm the presentations! That's one of the few sporting events that I can participate. Ahhhh, nothing better than mud wrestling with a mental midget. Then when you win the first round you advance to the second round where they bring in their middle-weight mental midget. But it's such a treat when you get to go toe-to-toe with the heavyweights and their hot lamps.

And after this you walk out of the room with both arms raised high over your head doin' a little dance. Collect your big prize then you need a nap.

Oh and by the way, IF you do purchase something you have to sign page after page attesting to the fact that you DID NOT rely on any verbal statements you heard during the presentation. Fact is, the presentation never occurred. A class action suit would be dismissed on its face when the hucksters bring out all those certifications that any purchase was based on written material and NOT verbal battles with the midgets.

 

[ricoba]

I have purchased directly from Hilton.... Hilton has been totally honest and no Hilton sales rep has ever lied to me.

Our first sales rep for Hilton (and the one we bought directly from Hilton), was pleasant, honest and helpful. However on follow-up "Owners Updates" the truth has been stretched quite a bit, we have been given false info and experienced high pressure from Hilton sales reps.

High pressure sales tactics and sales misdeeds from HGVC sales reps have been discussed previously on the HGVC board. Unfortunately some of us seemed to have noticed a change in the way Hilton has continued to do business. For me that's a sad thing.