Can you get a week back from II after request 1st deposit

[jazzeaw]

This is a 2 part question
1. I did a request 1st on my MGV for April 2009 (easter week), can I get my week back from II if I change my mind? It has not traded yet
2. can you use a 2009 week for something in 2008? if I can get my April 2009 MGV back I would like to use it for X-mas 2008.

Thanks

 

[ginnylbs]

Yes....read my answers in blue

1. I did a request 1st on my MGV for April 2009 (easter week), can I get my week back from II if I change my mind? It has not traded yet\
Answer............if it is a request first, you can stop the request and the week is still yours as it was never deposited

2. can you use a 2009 week for something in 2008? if I can get my April 2009 MGV back I would like to use it for X-mas 2008. Answer -YES, up to one year before youe deposit or 13 months if you own multiple Marriott's. Many of us have done this where we bank a week a year early to get a vacation in the year earlier. I went to Hawaii using a 2008 deposited week in 2007. That is one of the benefits of exchange companies. You have one year before and up to 2 years after your deposit for a 3 year window of vacation planning.

 

[jazzeaw]

thanks for the help

 

[dioxide45]

There is no such thing as a request first deposit. You either deposit your week prior to your request, or you request first and then deposit when a match is made. So if you are doing a request first, then your weeks is not deposited and you still have it, there is nothing to get back since you haven't given it to II yet.

 

[pwrshift]

If Interval continues to be so tight with AC's they will see only 'Request First' dealings IMO. Why deposit until you get the bonus week for it?

Brian

 

[Bill4728]

2. can you use a 2009 week for something in 2008? if I can get my April 2009 MGV back I would like to use it for X-mas 2008.

Thanks

I don't think you have this whole thing straight.

You can only use a 2009 week in 2008 if you deposit the week in II ( or use request first) then make an exchange for a 2008 week.

If you pull back your request first week, then you must change your reservation in Marriott for another week in 2009. You can't use your 2009 Marriott week in 2008 without exchanging thru II.

 

[Big Matt]

Brian,
I've got my request first out there right now. If I have to stay at Manor Club, I'll be quite pleased and save the exchange fee.

 

[dioxide45]

If Interval continues to be so tight with AC's they will see only 'Request First' dealings IMO. Why deposit until you get the bonus week for it?

Brian

Not many resorts/weeks get AC's. Even at the old standby's, AC's are not being offered. At some point one must deposit the week. In order for trade power to be high, the earlier it is deposited the better. Once I know I will not be using my week, I deposit it. This may be the same day the reservation is made with Marriott. I don't ever plan on an AC from II for my resort/week. If one waits around for an AC that never comes, their trade power may be diminished when they finally give up on the AC and decide to deposit.

 

[Big Matt]

I thought that the trading power was the same whether you request first or deposit first.

I think Brian was pointing out that II will see a lot more request firsts and fewer deposits. I agree with him.

At some point one must deposit the week. In order for trade power to be high, the earlier it is deposited the better.

 

[dioxide45]

I thought that the trading power was the same whether you request first or deposit first.

I think Brian was pointing out that II will see a lot more request firsts and fewer deposits. I agree with him.

If you do a request first while waiting and hoping for an AC, or don't do any request and just hold on to the week waiting for the AC. If you end up depositing and not making an exchange, that deposit will have less trading power depending on how long you wait hoping for the AC.

 

[rsackett]

If you do a request first while waiting and hoping for an AC, or don't do any request and just hold on to the week waiting for the AC. If you end up depositing and not making an exchange, that deposit will have less trading power depending on how long you wait hoping for the AC.

That is assuming that you do not want to go to your home resort. If there is some place that you would rather go than your home resort, but would still be happy going to your home resort if that does not come through, request first is the way to go.

Or you could always look into other exchange companys to see it they would work for you while your request first is going on. I know in the past SFX has offered me a bonus week for my Manor Club.

Ray

 

[Big Matt]

Not trying to be difficult, but I don't really understand what you are trying to explain.

My observations are that request first vs. deposit first get the same trading power regardless.

Staying in my home resort if I don't get a request first is a good deal to me. I will be happy with this arrangement regardless of getting an AC.

If II offers an AC during the time that I have my request first, then I can switch to deposit first, get my AC and still have a shot at my original request. My understanding from II is that this does not constitute a new trade, but continues with my existing trade and doesn't jeopardize my trading power.

If I'm wrong, then I'd like to get more information so that I make better decisions going forward.

Thanks ahead of time.

If you do a request first while waiting and hoping for an AC, or don't do any request and just hold on to the week waiting for the AC. If you end up depositing and not making an exchange, that deposit will have less trading power depending on how long you wait hoping for the AC.

 

[Bill4728]

I thought that the trading power was the same whether you request first or deposit first.

I think Brian was pointing out that II will see a lot more request firsts and fewer deposits. I agree with him.

If you do a request first while waiting and hoping for an AC, or don't do any request and just hold on to the week waiting for the AC. If you end up depositing and not making an exchange, that deposit will have less trading power depending on how long you wait hoping for the AC.

The first day you search with a week ( either deposited or request first) they should have about the same trading power.
The deposited week will keep that power till 2 years after check-in.

But the "request first" week will lose power each day ( maybe not very much) till 60 days before check-in and at 59 days before check-in will lose a huge amount of it's trading power.

 

[Big Matt]

Bill,
thanks for the information on the request first week losing trading power as time goes on. It makes sense, but I didn't know this until now. Also, the request is cancelled automatically at 60 days anyway, and I suppose it would be silly to not stay in your home resort at that point.

 

[thinze3]

Not trying to be difficult, but I don't really understand what you are trying to explain.

My observations are that request first vs. deposit first get the same trading power regardless.

Staying in my home resort if I don't get a request first is a good deal to me. I will be happy with this arrangement regardless of getting an AC.

If II offers an AC during the time that I have my request first, then I can switch to deposit first, get my AC and still have a shot at my original request. My understanding from II is that this does not constitute a new trade, but continues with my existing trade and doesn't jeopardize my trading power.

If I'm wrong, then I'd like to get more information so that I make better decisions going forward.

Thanks ahead of time.

Are you sure?
I wouldn't think this could be correct, but maybe we should find out for certain. I was thinking it was more the way dioxide45 mentioned. If you request firts and then change to a deposit first after an AC is offered, your trade power would diminsh as this would be considered a new trade request.

If they allowed everyone to do as you suggest, there would be no reason to ever deposit first, putting tremendous pressure on II trading system. IMO

Terry

 

[Bill4728]

Are you sure?
I wouldn't think this could be correct, but maybe we should find out for certain. I was thinking it was more the way dioxide45 mentioned. If you request firts and then change to a deposit first after an AC is offered, your trade power would diminsh as this would be considered a new trade request.

If they allowed everyone to do as you suggest, there would be no reason to ever deposit first, putting tremendous pressure on II trading system. IMO

Terry

With request first, you can only trade for a week until 60 days before your check in date. So the longest you'd have to search for an exchange is 10 months. With deposit first, you have 3 years ( one prior to check in and 2 after check in) to search for an exchange. To me, this is the main reason I deposit first.

 

[thinze3]

With request first, you can only trade for a week until 60 days before your check in date. So the longest you'd have to search for an exchange is 10 months. With deposit first, you have 3 years ( one prior to check in and 2 after check in) to search for an exchange. To me, this is the main reason I deposit first.

I agree, but the discussion was about changing your request first to a deposit first, receiving an AC, and not loosing your deposit strength as a result. You ultimately would still end up being able to use your week two years after reservation date.

Also, you CAN "request first" much further out if you use Marriott Internal Request. I reserved an April '09 week and immediately placed an Internal request for the July '09.


Terry

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