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Cabos and Driving

pgnewarkboy

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My feasibility study on Cabos includes whether I need to rent a car there. I have heard horrible things about driving in Mexico and don't want to rent a car.

Is renting a car necessary to enjoy the area? How would I get around without a car? Would It work to stay at a nice resort and take tours? Is that a common option at most resorts in Cabos? Do the resorts commonly offer transportation to local sites and beaches?
 
The horrible things you've heard about driving in Mexico are simply not true. We've rented cars in Cabo; we've rented cars in Puerto Vallarta; and we drive in Rosarito Beach and Tijuana all the time because we live in Rosarito Beach 6 mts. of the year. The major problem with Americans driving in Mexico is they don't bother to ask what rules are different from the U.S. There aren't many, but American lack of understanding often makes people say "the drivers are just horrible; you can't believe what they do." Mexicans just shake their heads at American drivers, but most Mexicans will cut you some slack because they know you don't know any better.

In Cabo, the major thing you need to know is that left turns off the main road are not expected by Mexican drivers--use the feeder roads and cross the highway from the feeder.
 
I heard that any accident results in arrest. Also you must have Mexican auto insurance.
 
If you can drive in the congested cities of the mid-Atlantic, Cabo area will present no difficulty, and will allow you to come and go as you wish to a wider variety of places. Yes, you DO need Mexican 3rd party insurance, and in every instance I know of is included with a car rental. No, any accident won't result in jail. The only particular caution I'd pass along is that driving after dark on unfamiliar roads is probably unwise, as the roads maintenance is sometimes spotty, and they put in those humongous speed-bumps called 'Topes' that will take the bottom out of a car- and the roads are not well lighted or signed.

I DO drive in Mexico, just with more caution and have never had a problem.

Jim
 
Cabo is one of the easiest places to drive a car. In recent years the main road in town has been improved to USA type and this year the new 4 lane hyw to Todos Santos is almost complete.

We like Dominics car rental because he provides all the insurance, a free tank of gas, unlimmited miles and anyone in your group is allowed to drive the car. You get the car in front of the airport and leave it in the parking lot when your done.

Many of the bad topes have been removed or fixed but there are a few out there that can catch you be surprise, especially at night.

There is a parking lot downtown and free parking next to the Marina Fiesta.


Bill
 
Understand that stop signs and turn signals are optional so drive as if they will be ignored. There are no drivers licensing requirement to own or drive a car in Mexico. The liability insurance that comes standard with the rental is probably less than you want to risk and the additional liability insurance is usually more than then rental car cost. IF you are in an accident often both cars are impounded until you and the other party agree as to who is at fault. Gas stations often try and rip you off by not resetting the pump especially when returning the car at the airport. A mordita is occasionally demanded by the local police for some infraction that might be real or not. Other than that it's just like driving in any other second world country. Drive at you own risk and pay attention.

If you are staying in Cabo it might be more relaxing to just walk as a car is not needed in town. If you stay on the corridor (quieter) you have less flexibility and must either walk out to the main road and take the subercabo public bus (inexpensive), take a resort shuttle (if available but reasonable) or a taxi which is very expensive. Cabo has one of the highest taxi rates in north America.

If it's your first visit I recommend staying at a resort in town and you have at least a week of activities (beach, marina, shopping, restaurants) all on foot. If you want to go on a side trip to Todo Santos you can book a tour at the resort or better yet go on a timeshare presentation and use your gift/activities budget to pay for some tours. You should be able to negotiate 2 sunset dinner cruises, 2 trips to Toto Santos and 2 other activities as your payment for sitting through a 2 1/2 hour ts presentation.

If you just want to go to San Jose del Cabo you can catch the Supercabo in front of the post office and it gets you to San Jose in about 50 min at a cost of 23 pesos per person. Walk the town have a meal and catch the bus back to Cabo.
 
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Understand that stop signs and turn signals are optional so drive as if they will be ignored.
WRONG, the rules of the road are the same as they are in the USA.

There are no drivers licensing requirement to own or drive a car in Mexico.
Wrong, you will need an international drives license or your state issued drivers license.


The liability insurance that comes standard with the rental is probably less than you want to risk and the additional liability insurance is usually more than then rental car cost.
WRONG, the basic liability insuance offered by rental agencies is more than enough coverage.

IF you are in an accident often both cars are impounded until you and the other party agree as to who is at fault.
WRONG, unless your drunk driving or any situation where in the USA they would impound your car.

Gas stations often try and rip you off by not resetting the pump especially when returning the car at the airport.
WRONG, I have been to many gas stations in Mexico and not once has anyone try to rip me off.

A mordita is occasionally demanded by the local police for some infraction that might be real or not.
YUP, this can happen but usually to your bennifit. The international drivers license is a phamplet with pages in many languages. Next to the spanish page you can clip a 100 pecos bill. Never hand money to a cop unless its concealed in a wrapper like an international drivers license.

Other than that it's just like driving in any other second world country. Drive at you own risk and pay attention.

If you are staying in Cabo it might be more relaxing to just walk as a car is not needed in town. If you stay on the corridor (quieter) you have less flexibility and must either walk out to the main road and take the subercabo public bus (inexpensive), take a resort shuttle (if available but reasonable) or a taxi which is very expensive. Cabo has one of the highest taxi rates in north America.

If it's your first visit I recommend staying at a resort in town and you have at least a week of activities (beach, marina, shopping, restaurants) all on foot. If you want to go on a side trip to Todo Santos you can book a tour at the resort or better yet go on a timeshare presentation and use your gift/activities budget to pay for some tours. You should be able to negotiate 2 sunset dinner cruises, 2 trips to Toto Santos and 2 other activities as your payment for sitting through a 2 1/2 hour ts presentation.

If you just want to go to San Jose del Cabo you can catch the Supercabo in front of the post office and it gets you to San Jose in about 50 min at a cost of 23 pesos per person. Walk the town have a meal and catch the bus back to Cabo.

I like a car where ever I am. Driving is one of the most entertaining things to do in Mexico, imo. You will never see anything but the resort side if you don't drive outside these areas.

Bill
 
We are staying at Hacienda del Mar for 2 weeks and trying to decide whether to rent a car. We always rented a car in PV with no problems. Any advice?

Lynn
 
http://dominicloscabos.com/

Hacienda del Mar is in the middle of the tourist coridor so your about 20 minutes to San Jose and 20 minutes to Cabo. Because of the G-20 summit held on the corridor the hwy from SJD to Cabo is very nice. Use the toll road from the airport to bypass San Jose.

We rented a minivan last Feb from Dominic. He met us in front of the airport. Right in front of the airport doors, not out in the parking lot. Everyone older than 21 was able to drive the van. When he brings you the car the gas tank is full, when you bring it back it can be almost empty, so you get a free tank of gas worth about $60.00.

Avis is the other car rental agency that includes the required 3rd party liability insurance. Avis will let you use your credit card for the LDW. For a compact to intermediate car I think Avis is best. For a suv or mini van Dominic is better.
Costco AWD is A108386
RCI Avis D663807
RCI Budget Y367807
II has a link for car rentals


I like to make sure my cell phone has contacts in Mexico these days. I will call the car rental people to make sure my call will go through and have this as a contact along with the resort.

Bill
 
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I heard that any accident results in arrest. Also you must have Mexican auto insurance.

As regards insurance, third party liability insurance is mandatory, and must be written by a company authorized to write such insurance in Mexico. Proof of such insurance must be provided upon request to a policeman. Failure to provide insurance is generally sufficient basis for the police to conclude you are operating a vehicle illegally, which will almost surely lead to the driver being detained and impounding the vehicle. Of course, if you are involved in an accident the proof of insurance is one of the first things the police will ask about.

Second party insurance - LDW - is another story. The car rental company will try to sell both LDW and personal liability as a package. Most credit cards will automatically provide LDW coverage, including loss of use coverage, for any vehicle rented using the credit card. In most cases, for US citizens renting in Mexico, the credit card LDW coverage will be primary. It will also provide more coverage - higher limits and lower deductibles. But it only applies if you decline car rental company LDW.

Read your rental terms and conditions carefully; the last time that I was checking on car rental options for a Mexico trip several of the car rental sites said they would allow renters to waive their LDW only if the renter provided specific documentation of LDW coverage for the vehicle, and stated that a general description of coverage included with the card was not sufficient. They said the renter needed to provide verification from the credit card issuer that this specific rental was covered. Obviously they are just trying to make it difficult for people to get off the lot without buying their rental coverage.

As to being jailed in case of an accident - Mexico operates under a Napoleonic legal code. If there is an accident, the police will make an investigation and if they conclude that something has occurred that requires detaining one of the parties, they will do so. My understanding is that they will do so if they have reason to believe that is necessary to assure that the gringo takes responsibility for any damages that might have occurred. Of course, they might also be willing to accept some consideration at the scene of the accident as assurance of your readiness to assume responsibility for your actions in lieu of being detained.

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I have rented cars in Puerto Vallarta and in Cabo. Personally I wouldn't hesitate to rent a car again in Cabo. Driving in Cabo is pretty easy. We particularly enjoyed driving to Todos Santos, and if we ever return to the tip of Baja, will spend more time exploring the smaller towns in the loop among Cabo, Todos Santos, and La Paz. I'm more leery now of driving in Puerto Vallarta - not in town, but in the countryside. Several years ago we had a wonderful drive to Tepic from Puerto Vallarta - one of my favorite day trips I've ever taken. I would love to do more trips into some of the inland areas such as that. But I don't perceive those areas as being as safe as they were ten years ago - too much drug trafficking moving along the inland corridors and the area around Tepic has become the primary region in which Mexican heroin is grown and processed. If I do any more rural trips in that area I'm much more inclined to just hire a good driver for the day who can get us around, who has some sense of where the danger spots might be, who can suggest places to go that we wouldn't be aware of, and who can provide some commentary and information.

And for in town stuff in Puerto Vallarta there's no need to drive when the buses are so convenient and cheap. Even taxis are cheap.
 
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I heard that any accident results in arrest. Also you must have Mexican auto insurance.

If you don't have Mexican 3rd party liability insurance to cover any damage you do to others or their property, it is true you will go to jail--you would go to jail if you were Mexican and didn't have insurance to cover any damange.

The car rental company will not let you drive the car off the lot without the insurance. It is now required by Mexican law on all vehicles on the road.
 
http://dominicloscabos.com/

Hacienda del Mar is in the middle of the tourist coridor so your about 20 minutes to San Jose and 20 minutes to Cabo. Because of the G-20 summit held on the corridor the hwy from SJD to Cabo is very nice. Use the toll road from the airport to bypass San Jose.

We rented a minivan last Feb from Dominic. He met us in front of the airport. Right in front of the airport doors, not out in the parking lot. Everyone older than 21 was able to drive the van. When he brings you the car the gas tank is full, when you bring it back it can be almost empty, so you get a free tank of gas worth about $60.00.

Avis is the other car rental agency that includes the required 3rd party liability insurance. Avis will let you use your credit card for the LDW. For a compact to intermediate car I think Avis is best. For a suv or mini van Dominic is better.
Costco AWD is A108386
RCI Avis D663807
RCI Budget Y367807
II has a link for car rentals


I like to make sure my cell phone has contacts in Mexico these days. I will call the car rental people to make sure my call will go through and have this as a contact along with the resort.

Bill

Thanks so much Bill we used Avis for both PV and Cancun and were happy with them.

Lynn
 
I like a car where ever I am. Driving is one of the most entertaining things to do in Mexico, imo. You will never see anything but the resort side if you don't drive outside these areas.

Bill

Easyrider- my point on turn signals and stop signs are yes their use is expected but in fact most local Mexican Nationals (and local ex pats) do not use turn signals or obey stop signs- so heads up.

Mexican Nationals are not required to get a drivers license to own or operate a car in Mexico so again be cautious. Obviously legitimate rental car companies require a license written in Latin alphabet

My upcoming car rental comes with mandatory liability insurance of 250,000 pesos (less than 20,000USD). I'm legal by Mexican law but most of us would not be comfortable with only $20,000 in liability insurance. What if we ran into a tourist? Insurance provided varies by rental company so check and read the disclaimers. Here is a copy of mine: TPL Insurance (mandatory)

TPL - Third Party Liability coverage is a mandatory insurance that the Government traffic regulations require for all drivers in Mexico. The TPL Insurance covers up to $250,000 MXP and is included on the rate quoted in your reservation.

Third Party Liability is car insurance that covers against death and or bodily injury to any third party; in an accident caused by or arising out of the use of the insured vehicle (people inside the car are not covered by TPL, and are only covered if optional Auto Personal Accident insurance has been included in the agreed policy package).
 
Definately read the 4 page sticky above. It pretty well summarizes what has been said here although a couple posts tend to be overdramatic.

I call and make car reservations at around three companies and then l rebook at the cheapest about a week before arrival. However, as is the beauty of this forum I just heard of Domnics and it appears he is a winner hands down.

Insurance is a major consideration and one would be foolish not to take rental car company liability even if they did not mandate.

As far as comp/collision take your credit car benefits "book" to a copy store and enlarge.

Since I am on Medicare and like US car insurance no good in Mexico I always do a trip policy which is around $250 and provides $25K or so of car damage plus around $50K emergency medical evacuation. Tons of other bells and whistles make it a no brainer.

Be sure you have a cell phone that works in Cabo and car insurance info on speed dial.

Also, make a couple copies of divers license.

Watch out for unmarked speed bumps.

At gas punps they tend to use 10/1 exchange rate when giving change as it makes math easy so just pay in pesos.

Do examine car very carefully as it will probably have a ding or two but they will note.

Locals generally do rolling stops at stop signs.
 
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