Buyer Frank Tesoro (Scammer)

[T_R_Oglodyte]

Has anyone been contacted by a Frank Tesoro about purchasing their timeshare? Any info?

 

[tschwa2]

I just ignored it.

From: eltorag15@gmail.com on behalf of Frank Tesoro (fttesoro@yahoo.com) Microsoft SmartScreen classified this message as junk.
Sent: Thu 9/20/12 12:36 PM
To:

Microsoft SmartScreen marked this message as junk and we'll delete it after ten days.
Wait, it's safe!

Is your timeshare still available for sale? Please advise.

Regards,
Frank Tesoro

 

[Nolathyme]

I knew a Frank Tesoro, Frank Tesoro was not a friend of mine, Frank Tesoro is not a timeshare buyer.

 

[x3 skier]

Got the same message and it went to the spam file.

Cheers

 

[DeniseM]

www.scamdex.com lists his email on their scam list.

 

[Egret1986]

Yep, got emails on three different listings.

Responded to first email. Went into my other email account and saw two more emails for two other timeshares. Determined that it was spam.

 

[Larry]

Responded to first email. Went into my other email account and saw two more emails for two other timeshares. Determined that it was spam.

Same here!!! Told him he was an obvious scammer since he wanted to buy my timeshare and when I asked him which one he was interested in he had no clue.

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

I have been playing this one out just to see what path he follows. As long as it doesn't take any time or effort on my part to respond. I just got the "hearing-impaired" e-mail and that closing will be through his broker at First American Title. I said his offer was fine, and that to get things started I needed to know the name of his broker and First American Title office where the broker was located.

The biggest piece of work I did was to track the internet headers on his e-mail to see where the mail was originating from - the one I received appeared to originate from an account at dotster,com.

 

[theo]

One happy (...but hearing impaird) family?

I have been playing this one out just to see what path he follows. As long as it doesn't take any time or effort on my part to respond. I just got the "hearing-impaired" e-mail and that closing will be through his broker at First American Title. I said his offer was fine, and that to get things started I needed to know the name of his broker and First American Title office where the broker was located.

The biggest piece of work I did was to track the internet headers on his e-mail to see where the mail was originating from - the one I received appeared to originate from an account at dotster,com.

Steve:

I believe that Frank Tesoro is a cousin of Judy Boursay. They have a common unfortunate hearing impairment, resulting from a common chromosomal aberration.

It will be interesting to see how long it take Frank to bail....

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

Steve:

I believe that Frank Tesoro is a cousin of Judy Boursay. They have a common unfortunate hearing impairment, resulting from a common chromosomal aberration.

It will be interesting to see how long it take Frank to bail....

Yeah - maybe the condition is endemic in Africa. Somehow I overlooked the real originating message header in the previous e-mail - Frank is sending his e-mail from an IP address that is assigned to Africa.

 

[theo]

Yeah - maybe the condition is endemic in Africa. Somehow I overlooked the real originating message header in the previous e-mail - Frank is sending his e-mail from an IP address that is assigned to Africa.

It may be that the "timeshare auction in Cairo" which was reportedly being attended by Judy's broker, has now moved to the African continent instead. Frank will surely let you know, if so...

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

It may be that the "timeshare auction in Cairo" which was reportedly being attended by Judy's broker, has now moved to the African continent instead. Frank will surely let you know, if so...

The last time I checked my globe, it still showed that Egypt was in Africa. It's an old globe, though, so perhaps over the last 50 years plate tectonics has moved that portion of the Mediterranean to a different continent.

 

[theo]

Yup...

The last time I checked my globe, it still showed that Egypt was in Africa. It's an old globe, though, so perhaps over the last 50 years plate tectonics has moved that portion of the Mediterranean to a different continent.

And on my globe as well, Egypt is indeed right there in the NE corner of Africa.

How I had it in my (alleged) mind that Egypt was on the other side of the bordering Red and Mediterranean Seas I cannot credibly explain. I'm going with "temporary brain fart" as my only available defense.

I guess the "timeshare auction" Judy's broker was attending didn't actually change continents after all.

 

[artset40]

art

I was just contacted by Frank Tesoro wanting to buy two of our timeshares using American First Title. I see he is on the scam list, and want to know if anyone has actually had a deal close with him.

 

[Rent_Share]

Steve:

I believe that Frank Tesoro is a cousin of Judy Boursay. ....

It's Boulay

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175755

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

I was just contacted by Frank Tesoro wanting to buy two of our timeshares using American First Title. I see he is on the scam list, and want to know if anyone has actually had a deal close with him.

No one has had a deal close with him because he doesn't make deals. The same person makes the same "offers". They just switch to a new name once the old name starts to turn up as a scammer in internet search engines. A couple of months ago the person was using the name "Judy Boulay". Now it is "Frank Tesoro". Two months from now it will be something else.

But the e-mail messages sent are identical, differing only in the name. They all say the buyer is "hearing impaired" and as a result they will be conducting the closing through a broker. They always say the broker is affiliated with some well-known title company. They all originate from an address somewhere in Africa. (You can verify this by inspecting the e-mail internet message headers, if you know how to do that.)

When it comes time to conclude the deal, they will say that they will send you a check for more than the amount you are to receive, and request that you deposit the check to your account, then wire transfer the excess to the "broker". The check you receive will be bogus, but it will take a couple of months for the check to bounce back to your bank through the international banking system. In the meantime, you will be out the money you wired to the "broker" accomplice; that will be unretrievable.

 

[Rent_Share]

I was just contacted by Frank Tesoro wanting to buy two of our timeshares using American First Title. I see he is on the scam list, and want to know if anyone has actually had a deal close with him.

Since you seem to have difficulty with the connection

Definitions of Scam on the Web

A confidence trick, confidence game, or con for short (also known as a scam) is an attempt to intentionally mislead a person or persons (known as the mark) usually with the goal of financial or other gain. The confidence trickster, con man, scam artist or con artist often works with an accomplice called the shill, who tries to encourage the mark by pretending to believe the trickster. ...

Noun1.scam - a fraudulent business scheme

Verb1.scam - deprive of by deceit; "He swindled me out of my inheritance"; "She defrauded the customers who trusted her"
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There are people that get scammed multiple times, the fact that you would ask about closing in the same sentence confirming he was a scammer helps me understand how that can happen

 

[theo]

My bad...

It's Boulay

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175755

You are absolutely correct; my apologies to "Judy" for inaccurately spelling his / her "user last name".

Then again, Frank Tesoro might well be very closely related to both Judy Boursay and Judy Boulay.
Indeed, all of these various contrived names are quite likely one and the same scammer anyhow, including Andrew Frechette and the intrepid (...but alas, fictitious) world-travelling broker, Samuel Kaplan.

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

Mr. Tesoro is buying so many timeshares he can't keep track of them all!!!


This morning he offered me $2700 for my timeshare, when he sent the "hearing-impaired" e-mail. As I stated upthread I accepted and told him to send the name of his broker and the First American Title office where his broker is located.

Then he sends me an e-mail offer identical to the previous one, which I "accepted", except this time he is offering $1000. So I sent him a nasty-gram:

I don’t understand. Yesterday you sent an identical e-mail, except that you said you would be willing to pay 2,700 dollars. I replied and accepted your offer.

Now, after I accept your offer, you come back with a lower offer. That is not right and I do not accept your revised offer. If you with to proceed with your original offer I am willing to proceed. But please understand that I do not do business with sneaky people. I am honest and straightforward in my dealings with other people, and I expect the same from them.

I hope I am clear. Let me know if you still wish to proceed with your original offer.​

This is starting to get fun. If he keeps at this I need to think of some things that make him burn some time trying to respond. I need to come up with some more responses that require him to actually compose a reply instead of just cutting-and-pasting into his canned responses.

 

[DeniseM]

Steve - Here's an idea: one time I had a scammer send their check to the Attorney General of California. Of course, I didn't tell him he was sending it to the AG - I just provided his name and address.

 

[jc92869]

At least this scammer came up with a good scamming name. Frank Tesoro sounds so DeBonaire. kinda something out of a Frank Sinatra movie.

 

[pacodemountainside]

Mr. Tesoro is buying so many timeshares he can't keep track of them all!!!

This is starting to get fun. If he keeps at this I need to think of some things that make him burn some time trying to respond. I need to come up with some more responses that require him to actually compose a reply instead of just cutting-and-pasting into his canned responses.

Tell him he is such a kind person you would like him to fly out to WA, deliver the check and pick up the quit claim deed. You will pay his plane fare out of proceds and take out to dinner.

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

Since Mr. Tesoro is in Africa, his correspondence generally arrives during the night.

So this morning, no mention of the conflicting messages from yesterday. Instead he replies to my response to his first offer.

Thanks for accepting my offer. Contact at first american title will be provided by my broker subsequently.

Please provide below information so I can mail in a deposit of 500 dollars to hold the property. As soon as deposit is mailed in, my broker will be in touch to arrange documentation, paperwork and escrow details. This would take a few weeks. When this is done, balance will be released to you from Escrow to close the sale.

Full names you want on the check
Mailing address
Phone numbers.

I shall await your feedback.

Kind Regards,
Frank Tesoro

My response:

You don’t need to send me a deposit to hold the property. As I indicated in my e-mail just send me the name of your broker and the First American Title office where he works and we can get the purchase started.

I understand about your hearing impairment. So if you just give me the name of your broker I can work directly with him on the transfer.​

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

Well Frank and I reached the end of the line.

After receiving my message telling him that no deposit was necessary and reiterating my request for him to just give me the name of of his broker and the location of his office, Frank responded:

This is not my first timeshare purchase and the normal routine is to make a deposit. If this is not fine by you, lets not waste our time.​

Imagine that!! If I'm not going to insist that he pay upfront, he doesn't want to buy my timeshare.

I informed him that I have known all along that he was a scammer, that he hasn't bought and sold a timeshare in his life, and that he is operating out of Africa. I also asked him to give my regards to Judy Boulay.

I was going to tell him that I had made sure that anyone googling "Frank Tesoro" and "timeshare" would be pointed immediately to links exposing the scam, but then I realized that would be self-defeating. It's better that he continue posing as Frank Tesoro as long as possible before he switches to his new name.

 

[x3 skier]

Well played sir. He probably thought you were the scammer since you didn't want any money up front. :whoopie:

Cheers