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Best Trading week in Orlando

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Of all the weeks of the year, which ones give the most trading power in Orlando for a 2 Bd GC property? I am guessing Wash Birthday week or anytime July to mid August? Am I correct?
 
Of all the weeks of the year, which ones give the most trading power in Orlando for a 2 Bd GC property? I am guessing Wash Birthday week or anytime July to mid August? Am I correct?

The most popular weeks in Orlando are weeks 51 and 52 with some arguing that week 52 is more popular than week 51. President's week (week 7 - it is also Daytona week) and the 4th of July week are also very high.
 
Easter weeks (before and after the Sunday holiday) would be my second choices after weeks 51 and 52.

Orlando isn't that crowded during the last three weeks in August at all, so don't assume that those weeks will trade well.
 
Plus the peak summer weeks, 26 through 30, which includes the 4th of July.

Having owned an Orlando Week 23 as our first timeshare, I can tell you that Week 23 was at least one week too early to be bright red.

Our 28 and 29 did a little better.

The most popular weeks in Orlando are weeks 51 and 52 with some arguing that week 52 is more popular than week 51. President's week (week 7 - it is also Daytona week) and the 4th of July week are also very high.
 
Assuming that you do not have the ability to book weeks 51 and 52, I would guess that week 26 is next.
 
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Wk 51 vs Wk 52?

The most popular weeks in Orlando are weeks 51 and 52 with some arguing that week 52 is more popular than week 51. President's week (week 7 - it is also Daytona week) and the 4th of July week are also very high.
Looking to 2008, Week 51 has Christmas and week 52 has New Years. Is one preferable to the other for trading purposes?
 
Let's put it this way, the busiest time in Orlando--gosh-darn-I-wish-I-wasn't-here-now-busy--is between Christmas and New Years. So figure it out for each year.

If I had to pick one day that is the absolute worst day to try to get anywhere near the parks it would be the Saturday after Christmas.

I was amazed last year, when we were there, that I heard that the third busiest hotel/motel area in the country for New Years is the I-Drive area. They meant that as an area distinct from Disney!!!

I don't believe we have ever been so happy to get to the beach in SW FL, for a week of R & R, than we were last year, after Christmas week in Orlando. :eek:
 
I think that looking at how the Disney Vacation Club rates the weeks would be a good indication. The highest rated weeks in DVC system is the "Premier Season". In 2008, there are only 3 weeks in premier season, week 52 and the two weeks around Easter, which is also spring break.
 
The busiest weeks at Disney, in order, are New Years (between Christmas and New Years day) , Easter (week before and after) and the week of July 4th.
 
I think that looking at how the Disney Vacation Club rates the weeks would be a good indication. The highest rated weeks in DVC system is the "Premier Season". In 2008, there are only 3 weeks in premier season, week 52 and the two weeks around Easter, which is also spring break.

Looking at the DVC charts is a good proxy but not the only one as it can also be misleading. There are two major reasons I think it might not be the best indicator. One, people staying at DVC are going to Disney and probably not very many other activities. While Disney is the main draw, it is not the only one and the other activities also have an effect (such as Daytona week) that is not reflected in DVC's demand. Second, some of DVC's low demand weeks, such as the first weeks in December, are in high demand by DVC members because of the low points needed and the ability to still enjoy the holiday festivities.

Still, almost all these proxies will show that week 51 (usually Christmas week), week 52 (New Years), week 7 (President's day/Daytona), Easter/Spring Break, and the 4th of July are probably the highest demand. If the theory that the highest demand should equate to highest trading power, then these weeks should be among those with the highest trading power.
 
I trade into Orlando at least twice a year and search on it frequently. I'd say that the week after Christmas and the weeks before and after Easter are the most difficult to trade into. I might even say that the Easter weeks are more difficult than the New Years week. Christmas is difficult, but not as bad as the other three weeks. Surprisingly to me, Thanksgiving is not anywhere as difficult as any of these weeks, as long as I trade early. I'd say 4th of July is the same as any other summer week in Orlando. I trade through both II and RCI weeks, although my RCI weeks are not good traders. (The trick with RCI in Orlando is to catch Orange Lake or HGVC bulk deposits).

Disney sells a pass for Florida residents that is blacked out the week before and after Easter, the 2 weeks at Christmas, and from mid-June to mid-August, but no blackout for Thanksgiving, so apparently those are the weeks that Disney views as busiest.
 
Tongue-in-cheek, the best trading Orlando week is the one you trade ownership of for almost any SW FL resort on the beach Weeks 1-15. :D

Then you would have a reliable trader, although depositing it with an exchange company would likely be the least valuable thing you could do with it.
 
Am I dreaming?

Thanks for all the advice. Once available to me, I now will secure either Week 51 or week 52 in 2008 at my home resort, Sheraton Vistana 2 bed/sleeps 8 and then deposit it with II seeking some great hard to get locale such as Westin St John, Lodges at Cresthaven or Ponds at Foxhollow. Am I dreaming or is this at all possible? A great trader is supposed to match up with like property is done at least one year out. Or so I keep reading outside of TUG
 
Thanks for all the advice. Once available to me, I now will secure either Week 51 or week 52 in 2008 at my home resort, Sheraton Vistana 2 bed/sleeps 8 and then deposit it with II seeking some great hard to get locale such as Westin St John, Lodges at Cresthaven or Ponds at Foxhollow. Am I dreaming or is this at all possible? A great trader is supposed to match up with like property is done at least one year out. Or so I keep reading outside of TUG

Which Vistana do you own? VV is a mandatory resort and Starwood controls the deposits with II. If you reserve those weeks, you will not be able to deposit it with II.

St. John is pretty much impossible to trade into wether its II or using staroptions via SVN.
 
I own a week in the Cascades section of Vistana Resort. Since I bought it as a resale, I'm not in the Starwood Vacation Network. Even so, I've been told that I can't do what Mishpat is describing, i.e. reserve a specific week at Vistana and deposit that week in II to trade. Although a member of II, I've never tried to deposit a Vistana week into II but have heard that if I did, Starwood would select the week that gets deposited and that it wouldn't be one of the best weeks of the year such as week 52. That's why I have just reserved a very high demand week and then rented it as opposed to trying to trade it, then rented a week that we wanted to use at another resort. My guess is that even if you could deposit week 52 at Vistana to II, the trading power of that resort coupled with the trading power of Orlando wouldn't be strong enough to get into a top flight place like Westin St. John unless it was a very offseason week or you find it in the Getaway 60 day window.
 
I own Fountains in VR with RCI Points. A VC gave me the advice of actually booking twelve months out a prime(Christmas)week and upon it goes through , it is mine to do whatever I desire. He actually told me I could even send it over to II and trade the week with them, even though my unit was originally put in the pot of RCI Points. If it works, I will be thrilled. If not, .............
 
Tseeking some great hard to get locale such as Westin St John, Lodges at Cresthaven or Ponds at Foxhollow. Am I dreaming or is this at all possible?

The Ponds at Foxhollow is an easy trade year-round. II gets very few Lodges at Cresthaven deposits - I have traded in there within the flexchange period but for prime summer you'll likely be disappointed. And as others have said St. John is unlikely.
 
Really. It's not peak season in terms of point costs for either DVC or Wyndham. It's a shoulder week in peak season for the Cypress Pointes (Diamond time starts on week 21.)

If I were buying in Orlando, I wouldn't buy to trade. If I was buying to trade, I would not buy anything that wasn't bright bright bright red. Week 21 ain't that.

But, don't take my word for it. JLB above says that Week 23 was at least one week too early. If that's one week too early, what does that make Week 21?
 
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