Best Timeshare Company in Vegas to Work For...

[Optimistic]

Hi All,

I hope you won't mind too much me asking this question here (and please feel free to redirect me if I'm in the wrong place)...

Okay, I'm in Vegas (here permanently now with hubby) and am interested in timeshare sales.

Of your experience, who would you say is a 'good' company to represent in Vegas and give the best vacation experience and value to buyers and who (if anyone) would you avoid?

Many thanks

Miss Optimistic

 

[DeniseM]

Unless you are ready to sell your soul to the devil, and lie to people to get them to make horrible financial decisions, there is no good place to work as a timeshare sales person.

 

[Optimistic]

Hi Denise,

No, I'm definitely not willing to do that. And I do know there is the good, the bad and the ugly with timeshare sales.

However, I can see that here on 'tug' that many owners do value their vacation homes. Am I to assume then that all owners think that 'all' salespeople are of the same 'low' caliber? And that most people here have bought on the 'second hand' market?

I'd like to think there are some decent folk out there involved in this industry - or are you all going to shoot down in flames and tell me I'm being naïve?

I wouldn't fall into the category of lying, bullying manipulator - not my style - I'm very open, I love working with people, I enjoy nice things (and properties) and all that considered and more, I thought this might make for good opportunity...

Cheers for the response though

 

[DeniseM]

It is not a matter of "nice."

The retail price on a timeshare is *ENORMOUSLY inflated, and to sell them, you have to lie and pressure people. If you tell the truth - you won't sell any, and you won't have a job long. You will be under tremendous pressure from the company to to lie and deceive people. That's the hard, cold truth.

*The retail price of timeshares is 75-100% more than then same timeshare on the resale market. No way to sell that, and be truthful about the product.

 

[Chrispee]

The problem is, you'll be selling a product that you know will depreciate by 60-100% as soon as the buyer signs on the dotted line. Could you really advocate for such a poor purchase in good conscience?

*edit, looks like DeniseM beat me to the punch.

 

[easyrider]

You might try Wyndham and sell Worldmark by Wyndham. There are three Worldmarks in Las Vegas. Worldmark by Wyndham has a pretty good product to sell called TravelShare that allows access to over 200 + resorts worldwide without trading. Worldmark is also a very good trader in RCI, II and SFX.

There is also the opportunity to move and work in other worldwide locations. With three resorts in LV, owner referral programs and party weekends designed to bring in leads this would be my choice.

One thing to think about is your posting at a used timeshare buyers forum so the answers may get jaded as timeshare sales staff are considered big liar heads to many here but the fact is we couldn't have bought resale if someone didn't by retail. So go do your thing.

Bill

 

[RX8]

If you can feel good about yourself after selling a Pez candy dispenser for $15,000 then timeshare sales is for you!

 

[DeniseM]

Oh yeah, Wyndham's great to work for: Wyndham employees suing over unpaid wages.

 

[tompalm]

Hilton is the best place to work and has the most to offer in Las Vegas. I love my Hilton timeshare and tell others to buy Hilton on the resale market all the time. The sale's representatives at Hilton are not hard sale. They are trying to sell the name, the credit card as well as the timeshare. I have been to several of their owner's updates (presentation) and never felt pressured or intimidated after talking with them. I actually thought about being a rep for them, but it is like Denise said, I can't sell something I don't believe is good for the customer.

The turnover of reps is high and they will always have openings. It is a rat race job with a lot of rejection. There will be a lot of time wasted during training and little or no pay. Once you start working, you have to spend a lot of time at the timeshare going to meetings and getting no pay. If you sell one or two a month you will be doing good. It is best to get a minimum wage job at the timeshare sales office welcome center and observe others. Don't jump into that fire without doing a lot or research in advance.

Working for Marriott is about the same as Hilton. Most all the others are high pressure and a lot of lies. Whatever you do, don't look, apply, or even think about a low budget timeshare. Good luck.

 

[Optimistic]

I wanted to say a huge thank you to all who commented here - I appreciate everyone's views (the good and bad) and I do take those on board.

I would 'not' feel comfortable in deceiving people and selling an inferior product which is overpriced.

It's interesting to note Bill's comments on Hilton - which sounds rather more my speed.

Time will tell - again, sincere thanks to everyone who responded.

Oh, and please, I did not mean to offend by posting this question here - my naivety it would seem got the better of me - but on the positive side, I get to hear what people 'really' think, and that is important.

Cheers!

 

[Blues]

It's interesting to note Bill's comments on Hilton - which sounds rather more my speed.

I own two HGVC timeshares, and I enjoy them a lot. I think they're a great system. But I bought them resale, paying $5K and $10K for them (one gold, one platinum). They're a good value at that resale price. But there's no way I could justify trying to sell them to unsuspecting tourists at $30K, $50K, or more. That's just a blatantly bad value, and personally I couldn't do it. YMMV.

-Bob

 

[Optimistic]

Hi Bob, I note what you say and appreciate that.

Admittedly it does sound rather like timeshares can be a great vehicle (for vacations) 'if' bought on resale - I think that is coming through loud and clear. It's a shame I couldn't get a job in that resale environment - that would be far more genuine.

I am really just starting to learn about timeshares and this website/forum is an ideal place to do just that. Thanks all for bearing with me as a newbie while I find my feet...

Tompalm - my huge apologies for calling you Bill - clearly I was having a 'blonde' moment - and yes, I am blonde!

Thanks guys

 

[easyrider]

Timeshares are an odd ball type product because of the different thoughts on the value. While its true you can hardly give them away anymore its also true that they are often a better vacation value or entertainment value than purchasing a trip from travel agencies.

The vacation product called timeshares does have an intrinsic value that adds to the quality of life for most people that use them. The excitement of planning and then staying at a nice resort adds many great memories to ones life and this could be the real value of timeshare ownership. Memories of children, grandchildren, friends and many good times are hard to put a price tag on, imo, especially as a person ages.

Other products that I have purchased with a high entertainment value don't seem to depreciate to 0 when your done using them but my list of overpriced items that depreciated quit a bit would include all of my cpu's, smart phones, boats, snowmobiles and a few vehicles.

My very first cpu costed $2500 and was considered obsolete within 7 months after purchasing it making it worth 0.

As far as the initial costs of a ts go its depends on the perception of what something is worth. Just like any car can get you to and from one point to another, what your paying for is the perceived luxury. Hilton is a more opulent resort than Worldmark and the cost to purchase reflects that even in resale.

Bill

 

[dougp26364]

Hi All,

I hope you won't mind too much me asking this question here (and please feel free to redirect me if I'm in the wrong place)...

Okay, I'm in Vegas (here permanently now with hubby) and am interested in timeshare sales.

Of your experience, who would you say is a 'good' company to represent in Vegas and give the best vacation experience and value to buyers and who (if anyone) would you avoid?

Many thanks

Miss Optimistic

I would probably interview with 3 companies, Hilton, Marriott and Diamond Resorts International. I'm not as convinced that Marriott supports it's sales force as well as in the past. Hilton still seems to treat their employees pretty decent and DRI has generally appeared to have a good reputation as an employer.

 

[presley]

OP, read through these forums. There are many threads about timeshare sales presentations. I think you will get a good idea of what the different companies are like to work for if you read the experiences posted here.

 

[bastroum]

Timeshares are an odd ball type product because of the different thoughts on the value. While its true you can hardly give them away anymore its also true that they are often a better vacation value or entertainment value than purchasing a trip from travel agencies.

The vacation product called timeshares does have an intrinsic value that adds to the quality of life for most people that use them. The excitement of planning and then staying at a nice resort adds many great memories to ones life and this could be the real value of timeshare ownership. Memories of children, grandchildren, friends and many good times are hard to put a price tag on, imo, especially as a person ages.

Other products that I have purchased with a high entertainment value don't seem to depreciate to 0 when your done using them but my list of overpriced items that depreciated quit a bit would include all of my cpu's, smart phones, boats, snowmobiles and a few vehicles.

My very first cpu costed $2500 and was considered obsolete within 7 months after purchasing it making it worth 0.

As far as the initial costs of a ts go its depends on the perception of what something is worth. Just like any car can get you to and from one point to another, what your paying for is the perceived luxury. Hilton is a more opulent resort than Worldmark and the cost to purchase reflects that even in resale.

Bill

How about those 42 inch Plasma TV's you could buy when they first came out for $5,000. You can buy them today for $300. The one you bought for $5,000 is worth ZERO.With that said I could never sell a TS to someone for $50,000 that you could buy on the open market for $15,000. Even worse selling one for $25,000 that you can buy for $1!

 

[egg1701]

Good point. Timeshare is great if you use it Period. I had one timeshare salesman in Mexico Cancun tell me when starting a presentation. If you cannot afford to go on vacation once a year then Timeshare not for you. I told him he was the first salesman to say this. I bought my timeshare in 2009 and this coming week super bowl week will be my 19th weekly vacation. Working on a goal of 50 weeks vacation to bring my total cost ave per vacation to $500.00 a week per Vacation. Check Mike & Edie post on Tugs. They are great. Joe

 

[momeason]

I hope you find a better way to make a living. I think you need your real-estate license so why not try to sell foreclosed homes, why the slimy timeshare industry.
A bunch of TUG members originally bought retail, but the vast majority of us would not do it again.
I was asked to leave a Wyndham presentation sales center because the supervisor was afraid I was spreading the truth and possibly messing up their sales. I only spoke to one person quietly outside. They assumed the worst because they are aware their product is way overpriced.
Why do you think the companies offer huge incentives to attend presentations and push "today only deals"? If people have a chance to research and consider rationally, there would be no sales. They prey on emotions and have people sign up for a huge upfront costs and years of maintenance fees on an impulse. The developer has all the power and control.
If the product was worth the price, the advertising would be on TV with pricing.

 

[egg1701]

RX8, Now that's a good analogy. LOL

 

[Optimistic]

Oh dear...

I'm really not a horrid person and would hate the thought of ripping anyone off - yes I'm being naïve - I really appreciate everyone's comments and feedback here.

What I'm hearing is that timeshares can be wonderful for vacations (and thank you to Bill for spelling that out) but it definitely sounds like something which should be bought, other than at a presentation.

Likewise I agree with the devaluation in things today like computers (think Apple - drives me nuts we buy one and a few months' later, a new version has come out - arrrhhh)....

Anyway, I'm going to read a lot more of the threads and info on this website just so that I can be more 'up' on my knowledge in any event of timeshares.

I think I got half of the equation right in that, timeshares can be/are a wonderful place to stay (of quality, with amenities etc etc) 'but' that buying from the developer is 'not' the way to go.

Again, I really hope I didn't offend anyone by posting this question here and you've all certainly opened my eyes to what it is really like buying 'retail'.

I'm guessing/assuming that even at the 'better' ones like Hilton etc, that they also must use tactics then to a certain degree, in order to be able to sell.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I love dealing with people, I enjoy providing first class service, but I could not stand to rip people off. In my ignorance, I obviously did not know very much about the profession so huge thanks again to everyone for taking the time to respond, I appreciate it and thanks also for bearing with someone who knows so little

Best wishes

 

[Chrispee]

Optimistic, you sound way too kind and empathetic for timeshare sales. I'll bet you'd do well in some other tourism related sales, like excursions or something travel related.

 

[colatown]

Hilton is the best place to work and has the most to offer in Las Vegas. I love my Hilton timeshare and tell others to buy Hilton on the resale market all the time. The sale's representatives at Hilton are not hard sale. They are trying to sell the name, the credit card as well as the timeshare. I have been to several of their owner's updates (presentation) and never felt pressured or intimidated after talking with them. I actually thought about being a rep for them, but it is like Denise said, I can't sell something I don't believe is good for the customer.

The turnover of reps is high and they will always have openings. It is a rat race job with a lot of rejection. There will be a lot of time wasted during training and little or no pay. Once you start working, you have to spend a lot of time at the timeshare going to meetings and getting no pay. If you sell one or two a month you will be doing good. It is best to get a minimum wage job at the timeshare sales office welcome center and observe others. Don't jump into that fire without doing a lot or research in advance.

Working for Marriott is about the same as Hilton. Most all the others are high pressure and a lot of lies. Whatever you do, don't look, apply, or even think about a low budget timeshare. Good luck.

Damn, I bought my HGVC from the only hard sell guy working for them, with the exception of his closer.

 

[easyrider]

What I'm hearing is that timeshares can be wonderful for vacations (and thank you to Bill for spelling that out) but it definitely sounds like something which should be bought, other than at a presentation.

Just so you know, all timeshare units everywhere were originally sold by developers. Most timeshares today are still sold by developers. Its like I said in the beginning, this forum is jaded against timeshare sales people. Your not going to get much useful input here as most here feel that developers are fleecing the public because there is not a resale market for their timeshare.

Try this place. There are timeshare job listings for qualified people and links to state requirements for selling these. Pretty much every one I know that sells these products likes their careers.

http://www.insidethegate.com/


Bill

 

[Optimistic]

I don't wish for this thread to keep bouncing to the top, so I'm going to thank everyone again who chimed in here - I do appreciate it very much.

And if anyone should decide to comment in the future, just know that I'm grateful - hugely - I just won't keep 'replying' though - only because I feel it will probably become annoying for regular folk to keep seeing this thread floating around the top.

Hope that made sense!

Optimistic

 

[DeniseM]

Your not going to get much useful input here as most here feel that developers are fleecing the public because there is not a resale market for their timeshare.

Bill - I have to call baloney on your post!

"Most" Tuggers are not trying to dump their timeshares. "Most" Tuggers enjoy their timeshares. 99% of the posts from people wanting to "dump" their timeshares are total newbies!

What "most" Tuggers object to is the unethical practices of the sales people - it has nothing to do with "most here" wanting a resale market for their timeshare.