Any westgate park city owners converting from float to fixed?

[mikeben]

I am a westgate park city owner (hate westgate but love the park city resort)...they are advising me to switch my ski time float to a fixed week...for $15k...their rational is that the prime ski weeks (jan/feb) owners are converting to fixed to be assured a prime ski week. So far we have not had any trouble getting the weeks we want (20 years and counting now) but they think it will be very difficult going forward to get your requested week...we always reserve 11 months out and never had a problem. I've also never heard of a TS going from float to fixed for a premium (other than holiday weeks of course). I'm curious if anyone is actually converting which will diminish the available weeks for float owners...

 

[tschwa2]

I don't understand how you can convert a float week to a fixed week unless they are selling at a different resort. The rules put in place when the timeshare was set up specified that the deeds float.

 

[bnoble]

So far we have not had any trouble getting the weeks we want (20 years and counting now) but they think it will be very difficult going forward to get your requested week.

Don't spend money solving a problem you don't have. If and when you start having trouble reserving the week(s) you want, that's the time to think about doing something differently.

More generally, this is Timeshare Sales 101: create a "problem" then offer a solution---miraculously, the solution always involves buying another timeshare.

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

I am a westgate park city owner (hate westgate but love the park city resort)...they are advising me to switch my ski time float to a fixed week...for $15k...their rational is that the prime ski weeks (jan/feb) owners are converting to fixed to be assured a prime ski week. So far we have not had any trouble getting the weeks we want (20 years and counting now) but they think it will be very difficult going forward to get your requested week...we always reserve 11 months out and never had a problem. I've also never heard of a TS going from float to fixed for a premium (other than holiday weeks of course). I'm curious if anyone is actually converting which will diminish the available weeks for float owners...

Curious; Did you buy your week directly from Westgate? Or, did you buy your week on the resale market ?


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[grupp]

Westgate seems to be able to do whatever they want, so don't doubt they can do it. There are already some fixed units at this resort, which include 3, 7, 51 and 52 and maybe some others. I assume the will take your week and give you a new week with a different deed where the week is fixed vs floating. At the owner update I went to this year they were trying to push a fixed week 4 on me.

If you aren't having issues getting the week you want, don't see any reason to do this, especially at that price. Even if they are able to convince some owners to switch, I would suspect it would take many owners to switch before it has an impact on you reserving your week.

 

[RX8]

I know I shouldn’t be at this point but I am still amazed at the lengths that timeshare companies go to figure out even more ways to separate timeshare owners from their cash. JUST LET US ENJOY OUR VACATIONS! Stepping down now off the soapbox.

 

[grupp]

I know I shouldn’t be at this point but I am still amazed at the lengths that timeshare companies go to figure out even more ways to separate timeshare owners from their cash. JUST LET US ENJOY OUR VACATIONS! Stepping down now off the soapbox.

Is it really that different than companies like Marriott charging owners, or requiring them to purchase something, in order to convert weeks they already own to points?

 

[bogey21]

Westgate will end up winning this war. It seems to me that the more they can get Floating Week Owners to switch to prime Fixed Weeks the fewer prime Fixed Weeks there will be available for Floating Week Owners thus forcing more of them to pay up and switch...

George

Corrected to read Floating Week Owners. The result is still the same...

 

[tschwa2]

Westgate will end up winning this war. It seems to me that the more they can get Points Owners to switch to prime Fixed Weeks the fewer prime Fixed Weeks there will be available for Points Owners thus forcing more of them to pay up and switch...

George

They don't have points owners. These are owners with float deeds. The holiday weeks were never part of the original float period and were specifically sold as fixed weeks, 7,51, 52 and apparently 3.

 

[Fried_shrimp]

Westgate will end up winning this war. It seems to me that the more they can get Points Owners to switch to prime Fixed Weeks the fewer prime Fixed Weeks there will be available for Points Owners thus forcing more of them to pay up and switch...

George

Until they run out of prime weeks.

 

[RX8]

Is it really that different than companies like Marriott charging owners, or requiring them to purchase something, in order to convert weeks they already own to points?

No, it really isn’t any different. But it seems like they are thinking of new inventive ways, using mostly scare tactics, to get owner’s money.

What’s next for them? Paying $5,000 to upgrade your membership to change your number of toilet paper rolls in your room from float (unknown number of rolls is very bad, especially if we get hit with another pandemic) to a fixed 20 rolls stocked in your room guaranteed at check-in. I can hear the sales spiel now - “you NEED this upgrade! Never be caught with your pants down again!”

 

[DazedandConfused]

They can and have done it in the past, but I estimate (ie total guess) that only 5% of owners converted. I like the flexibility of a floating ski week, but the 7 or so popular February and March weeks get taken fast.

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

No, it really isn’t any different. But it seems like they are thinking of new inventive ways, using mostly scare tactics, to get owner’s money.

What’s next for them? Paying $5,000 to upgrade your membership to change your number of toilet paper rolls in your room from float (unknown number of rolls is very bad, especially if we get hit with another pandemic) to a fixed 20 rolls stocked in your room guaranteed at check-in. I can hear the sales spiel now - “you NEED this upgrade! Never be caught with your pants down again!”

"glad "to see Westgate is using selling ingenuity to solve a hypothetical problem .

At our next Vidanta / Mayan Palace visit I am half expecting that the carrot to go to a presentation - will be a first floor room / so you don't have to take the elevator ( due to Covid) . Then Vida Sales will offer me a fixed Feb. week upgrade (10 year use timeline) for more $$ than we originally gave for a RTU float week in 2006.
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