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2025 DVC Point Charts

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This might be old news for some, but the 2025 DVC Point Charts have appeared on the DVC website. And the TOT charts for those considering a stay at the VDH or Aulani.
 
Happily, it appears the only changes are related to the usual movable holidays, Thanksgiving and Easter. So it seems they’ve finished the seasonal reallocation process they started a few years ago.
 
This might be old news for some, but the 2025 DVC Point Charts have appeared on the DVC website. And the TOT charts for those considering a stay at the VDH or Aulani.
That TOT in 2025 at VDH is a killer. I don’t see how owning at VDH, direct or resale, is a better financial option then renting or paying cash.
 
I have not looked at the TOT for DL Villas to now. Yes, those charges are high. Staying at DL Villas for a week would $1100 in taxes for a 1br unit during high season.

Glad I own VGC points. The TOT cost for same stay at VGC is $0 at checkout.
 
I have not looked at the TOT for DL Villas to now. Yes, those charges are high. Staying at DL Villas for a week would $1100 in taxes for a 1br unit during high season.

Glad I own VGC points. The TOT cost for same stay at VGC is $0 at checkout.

Wow, $1100 in TOT only for a 1 bedroom, that's crazy. I never look at it before, but I guess I won't be staying ever at VDH. That's like my goal of total cost for 1 week vacation anywhere, and I been getting close to that, even in Hawaii, even when using II/RCI and paying the escalating exchange fees, at least not much more.

Great3
 
Glad I own VGC points. The TOT cost for same stay at VGC is $0 at checkout.
Yup. I contemplated selling my VGC and buying VDH but after the Riviera debacle decided I would stand pat until points actually went on sale. I am SOOOO happy I did...
 
Is Disney having a tough time selling those points at the new Disneyland resort with the taxes so high? Our daughter-in-law was wanting to buy. I will have to tell her to reconsider her decision. I would rather the kids buy something in FL, anyway. Maybe those little cabins would appeal to them.
 
Is Disney having a tough time selling those points at the new Disneyland resort with the taxes so high? Our daughter-in-law was wanting to buy. I will have to tell her to reconsider her decision. I would rather the kids buy something in FL, anyway. Maybe those little cabins would appeal to them.
They might be - VDH points are certainly not flying off the shelves. OTOH no one knows whether DVD expected that and is happy to rent the undeclared rooms for cash, same as at Riviera.

The Ft. Wilderness Cabins might be a nice option for your DDiL, to stay in, at least. Disney released some more details and concept art recently, and to me they’re a sort of super studio, sleeping six, with enhanced kitchen but no in-cabin laundry.


 
The cabins look nice, but queen bed and bunk beds in the bedroom? I guess the adults would sleep on the murphy bed. No washer/dryer is a big deal. I could see one of the twins sleeping with our DIL and our son on the bed by himself.
 
The cabins look nice, but queen bed and bunk beds in the bedroom?...
I had some interest in FTC before this...but what were they thinking!?! Putting the bunk beds in the LR with murphy makes sense if you expect the adults to retreat to their bedroom in the evening. Or putting a pair of twins in with the bunk beds in the bedroom if you expect the adults to sleep in the LR.

Not to mention that the dining room table (at least in the concept drawings) only has four chairs and room for four plates. It has a little stool at one end...but no kid could sit on it and reach the table even if there were room for a 5th or 6th plate. Two high chairs maybe?
 
I had some interest in FTC before this...but what were they thinking!?! Putting the bunk beds in the LR with murphy makes sense if you expect the adults to retreat to their bedroom in the evening. Or putting a pair of twins in with the bunk beds in the bedroom if you expect the adults to sleep in the LR.

Not to mention that the dining room table (at least in the concept drawings) only has four chairs and room for four plates. It has a little stool at one end...but no kid could sit on it and reach the table even if there were room for a 5th or 6th plate. Two high chairs maybe?
You just don't have the same imaginations as the Disney Imagineers do, where they are always MAKING THE IMPOSSIBLE POSSIBLE!!! Come on, you need to try harder if you want to get paid the big bucks! I guess I don't either, that's why we pay the big bucks to DVC! LOL!!!

Great3
 
They aren’t changing the cabins in any significant way, just replacing them - the current trailers are at the end of their lifespan. Our first WDW visit in 1994 was in the cabins, and the sleeping arrangements were the same - DH and I in the living room and our 2 kids in the bedroom. I can’t remember whether they each took a bunk or one a bunk and the other the bed. At that time the bathroom was between the living room and the bedroom, now it will be at the other end, behind the kitchen - the current cabins were installed a few years after our stay, and I’m not sure where the bathroom is in that version. But there’s really no big change except to decor.
Not to mention that the dining room table (at least in the concept drawings) only has four chairs and room for four plates. It has a little stool at one end...but no kid could sit on it and reach the table even if there were room for a 5th or 6th plate. Two high chairs maybe?
Maybe they’re continuing the DVC tradition of making it hard to sit at a table for a meal together. Even the new BWV 1/2BR seem to only seat 4-6 at the table, instead of the 9 who would be the capacity of a 2BR villa. (Previously only 2 fit at the table, so it’s kind of an improvement.)
 
The lack of a washer/dryer is a real problem. That’s one of the major perks/reasons for booking a 1 bedroom over a studio, along with the kitchen and the extra room. I don’t think these are well thought out, how hard would it have been to throw a stackable somewhere? They seriously cheaped out on these.
 
Do Mariott timeshare studios have a washer and dryer? We stayed in one this summer in Branson and I don't think they do, but can't remember because we moved to a two bedroom after a week in the studio we got on Interval as a Getaway and did wash there.
 
Do Mariott timeshare studios have a washer and dryer? We stayed in one this summer in Branson and I don't think they do, but can't remember because we moved to a two bedroom after a week in the studio we got on Interval as a Getaway and did wash there.
Marriott studios do not have in room laundry.
 
The lack of a washer/dryer is a real problem. That’s one of the major perks/reasons for booking a 1 bedroom over a studio, along with the kitchen and the extra room. I don’t think these are well thought out, how hard would it have been to throw a stackable somewhere? They seriously cheaped out on these.

This isn’t a new build that has been thought out at all. The current cabins (manufactured housing) have reached the end of their useful life and need to be replaced. Following a pattern Disney began with the conversion of Wilderness Lodge rooms to CCV and continued with conversion of Grand Floridian hotel rooms to VGF, they will have buyers of the Ft. Wilderness DVC Cabins pay for that replacement by purchasing the points to stay there. The new cabins will occupy the same footprint, including plumbing and electrical, that the current ones do and are essentially the same, except for moving the bathroom for the middle of the trailer to the end behind the kitchen. The current cabins don’t have W/D, and the new ones won’t either. I think of them as “super studios” that will sleep 6 and have a slightly enhanced kitchen compared to other DVC studios. Laundry is available nearby, same as for other DVC studios.
 
This isn’t a new build that has been thought out at all. The current cabins (manufactured housing) have reached the end of their useful life and need to be replaced. Following a pattern Disney began with the conversion of Wilderness Lodge rooms to CCV and continued with conversion of Grand Floridian hotel rooms to VGF, they will have buyers of the Ft. Wilderness DVC Cabins pay for that replacement by purchasing the points to stay there. The new cabins will occupy the same footprint, including plumbing and electrical, that the current ones do and are essentially the same, except for moving the bathroom for the middle of the trailer to the end behind the kitchen. The current cabins don’t have W/D, and the new ones won’t either. I think of them as “super studios” that will sleep 6 and have a slightly enhanced kitchen compared to other DVC studios. Laundry is available nearby, same as for other DVC studios.
I get that, but how much would have cost to wire them for dryers? They already have water hookups…. These “Super Studios” are almost certainly going to be priced between 1 bedroom and 2 bedroom (or maybe even more given how inflated points charts have gotten).
 
Maybe the current electrical, water and sewer hookups could not take the extra load of all those units without an investment in the main lines?
 
I too was hoping they’d install W/D! But obviously they didn’t. Now waiting for the point charts!
 
I too was hoping they’d install W/D! But obviously they didn’t. Now waiting for the point charts!
More than a Riviera 1 bedroom and less than a Riviera 2 bedroom is my guess.
 
More than a Riviera 1 bedroom and less than a Riviera 2 bedroom is my guess.
I’m thinking between VGF/RIV studios and VGF/RIV 1BR, because of not having a truly full kitchen or laundry, but DVD never fails to surprise me. We’ll never be in the market for more points, but I would like to stay there someday, now that we don’t spend as much time in the parks and won’t mind the transportation issues.
 
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