[2021] Daylight saving time - here's why Arizona doesn't adjust its clocks.

[WVBaker]

Daylight saving time starts this weekend: Why Arizona doesn't adjust its clocks.

Most of Arizona won't spring forward with the rest of the country on March 14. Why? It has a lot to do with desert heat, says the Arizona Republic.

www.usatoday.com

 

[DrQ]

Indiana did not start observing DST until 2006. (Except the area around Gary IN)

When I was going to school there in the 70's, it was strange to have all the television programs change their times each summer.

 

[dsmrp]

However I think the Navajo Nation in NE Arizona does observe DST. Or at least they did around 10 yes ago.

 

[Talent312]

Freedom-lovers should protest government-mandated time.
"We, the people," should be able to set the the time we prefer.
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[WVBaker]

"I object to being told that I am saving daylight when my reason tells me that I am doing nothing of the kind... At the back of the Daylight Saving scheme I detect the bony, blue-fingered hand of Puritanism, eager to push people into bed earlier, and get them up earlier, to make them healthy, wealthy and wise in spite of themselves".
Robertson Davies

 

[LannyPC]

You're actually one of the few people to get the name of this program correct. It's Daylight Saving Time and not Daylight Savings Time.

 

[geekette]

Seems every February I want to make a withdrawal on that saved daylight to use but don't seem to have the right credentials.

 

[Snazzylass]

Indiana did not start observing DST until 2006. (Except the area around Gary IN)

When I was going to school there in the 70's, it was strange to have all the television programs change their times each summer.

As a Hoosier at heart, I loved that! On the other hand, I do love how light it stays at night in the summer - nearly 10pm. Awesome for grownups

So, now I managed to move to one of the few states (HI doesn't either, I believe) that does not change its clocks and I love that! I always tell my customers around the US that we don't need any extra hours of sunshine which always elicits a laugh.

 

[Snazzylass]

However I think the Navajo Nation in NE Arizona does observe DST. Or at least they did around 10 yes ago.

Correct and there's good reason for that - their Tribal Lands extend outside our state borders. Interesting the Hopi Nation is inside the Diné people's land, and they do not observe DST. So, one can unknowingly be driving in and out of timezones when exploring that area.

 

[Brett]

So in Arizona people don't want to "prolong the agonizing heat" with DST

seems like a lot of people don't like Daylight saving time, except some businesses
https://www.nytimes.com/article/daylight-saving-time-questions.html

 

[LannyPC]

seems like a lot of people don't like Daylight saving time...

True, and there are a lot of people who do like it. But, like with many controversial subjects, the naysayers seem to be more vocal about it.

 

[jimf41]

Freedom-lovers should protest government-mandated time.
"We, the people," should be able to set the the time we prefer.
.

Exactly how would that work with everybody deciding what time they want to use? When I was in the working class it would have been nice to show up an hour late and tell my boss I was on my own time. I think his response would have been something like " yes, you are."

 

[Cornell]

As a Hoosier at heart, I loved that! On the other hand, I do love how light it stays at night in the summer - nearly 10pm. Awesome for grownups

So, now I managed to move to one of the few states (HI doesn't either, I believe) that does not change its clocks and I love that! I always tell my customers around the US that we don't need any extra hours of sunshine which always elicits a laugh.

I remember in Greencastle that sometimes our TV shows would be on Eastern time, then other times, Central time.

 

[Talent312]

Exactly how would that work with everybody deciding what time they want to use?...

Not very well, I grant. But I prefer being on "island time."
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[WVBaker]

 

["Roger"]

Marco Rubio, with a lot of bipartisan support, has introduced a bill to make daylight savings year around. An interesting article from the Washington Post (probably behind a paywall) looks at when President Nixon made daylight savings year around in 1971 in response to the oil shortage crisis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/15/no-more-changing-clocks-history-says-be-careful-what-you-wish-daylight-saving-time/

When he first did this, the idea was very popular, garnering around 70% support. However, after being instituted, support fell to around 25% with around 40% flatly declaring it to be a bad idea. Probably the biggest reason for opposition was having the sun rise after 8:00 for about two and a half months in, for example, Washington DC (and much worse elsewhere). Parents were not fond of putting their kids out to catch the school bus in total darkness for so long.

Another interesting factor was that, with Europe not on daylight savings time, it left almost no hours for a business in the United States and one in Europe to have their employees at work at the same time. That meant any communications required someone to be at the office during off hours.

 

[Brett]

Marco Rubio, with a lot of bipartisan support, has introduced a bill to make daylight savings year around. An interesting article from the Washington Post (probably behind a paywall) looks at when President Nixon made daylight savings year around in 1971 in response to the oil shortage crisis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/15/no-more-changing-clocks-history-says-be-careful-what-you-wish-daylight-saving-time/

When he first did this, the idea was very popular, garnering around 70% support. However, after being instituted, support fell to around 25% with around 40% flatly declaring it to be a bad idea. Probably the biggest reason for opposition was having the sun rise after 8:00 for about two and a half months in, for example, Washington DC (and much worse elsewhere). Parents were not fond of putting their kids out to catch the school bus in total darkness for so long.

Another interesting factor was that, with Europe not on daylight savings time, it left almost no hours for a business in the United States and one in Europe to have their employees at work at the same time. That meant any communications required someone to be at the office during off hours.

Sounds like a good idea but some states would still like to have their own time and not have the federal government determine the real correct time

 

[Talent312]

... Probably the biggest reason for opposition was having the sun rise after 8:00 for about two and a half months... Parents were not fond of putting their kids out to catch the school bus in total darkness for so long.

But now, they have flashlights on their cellphones.
,

 

[PigsDad]

Probably the biggest reason for opposition was having the sun rise after 8:00 for about two and a half months in, for example, Washington DC (and much worse elsewhere). Parents were not fond of putting their kids out to catch the school bus in total darkness for so long.

I was in elementary school in northern Minnesota (where days are much shorter than DC in the winter), and I remember that year. We lived on a farm and had a ~50 minute bus ride to and from school, and it was dark when I got on the bus for a good portion of the school year that year.

Kurt

 

[rcv82]

I was in elementary school in northern Minnesota (where days are much shorter than DC in the winter), and I remember that year. We lived on a farm and had a ~50 minute bus ride to and from school, and it was dark when I got on the bus for a good portion of the school year that year.

Kurt

Likewise I was in school in northwest Montana at the time. In December and January sunrise is not until early 8:30 on standard time, so that year on daylight time it was still dark at 9am. So for all the griping people do about the time changing, I think our current approach is best. The long evenings in the summer are great, but the sunrise is too late in the day in the dead of winter to stay on it year around.


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[LannyPC]

The long evenings in the summer are great, but the sunrise is too late in the day in the dead of winter to stay on it year around.

That's what I like about DST too. Simply put, it makes best use of the limited daylight hours in the fall and winter, best use of the longer daylight hours in the spring and summer.

 

[DrQ]

Marco Rubio, with a lot of bipartisan support, has introduced a bill to make daylight savings year around. An interesting article from the Washington Post (probably behind a paywall) looks at when President Nixon made daylight savings year around in 1971 in response to the oil shortage crisis.

... Parents were not fond of putting their kids out to catch the school bus in total darkness for so long.

It was January of 1974 and I was a freshman at college in Indiana and we had 7:30 AM classes. Being a freshman and the school determined our schedule by computer, not by signing for specific class/times, I had a LOT of them. Including 7:30 AM SATURDAY classes!

I remember walking to class in the dark, cold and snow ... Builds character, right?

 

[shorep]

Seems every February I want to make a withdrawal on that saved daylight to use but don't seem to have the right credentials.

I forgot my sign in to the daylight saving group,I reckon they owe me 20 odd years of daylight with sub tropical sunshine, not to mention other 'benefits',that could be got from a bottle and rhyme with sin!

 

[Brett]

Marco Rubio, with a lot of bipartisan support, has introduced a bill to make daylight savings year around. An interesting article from the Washington Post (probably behind a paywall) looks at when President Nixon made daylight savings year around in 1971 in response to the oil shortage crisis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/15/no-more-changing-clocks-history-says-be-careful-what-you-wish-daylight-saving-time/

When he first did this, the idea was very popular, garnering around 70% support. However, after being instituted, support fell to around 25% with around 40% flatly declaring it to be a bad idea. Probably the biggest reason for opposition was having the sun rise after 8:00 for about two and a half months in, for example, Washington DC (and much worse elsewhere). Parents were not fond of putting their kids out to catch the school bus in total darkness for so long.

Another interesting factor was that, with Europe not on daylight savings time, it left almost no hours for a business in the United States and one in Europe to have their employees at work at the same time. That meant any communications required someone to be at the office during off hours.

whatever happened to the "Sunshine Protection Act"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/01/daylight-saving-end-standard-time-permanent/

 

[carmena79]

I thought they passed a bill to end changing the time. Permanent DST as of next year. One last time change next year and then permanent DST. No? Am I misinformed? DST becomes standard time and that's it?