[ 2008 ] SVO eBay Sales

DavidnRobin · Feb 25, 2008

SDKath · Feb 25, 2008

Nice list! Thanks for taking the time to put this up. I may have a few to add on as well from January. I will look when I get home tonight. K

DavidnRobin · Feb 26, 2008

WKORV-N IV (148.1K SO) - $27, 606 (2/25/08)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320212343282&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011

WSJ Studio Week 28, Unit 3311 - $10,000 (2/25/08)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180217041124&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008

SDKath · Feb 26, 2008

Here are a few. I will clean up the titles when I have a bit more time

SDO 1BR smaller unit deeded week 15 $505

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...em=200201251181&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI

SBP Platinum 2BR (not lockoff) $2056

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...em=220200401103&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI

SDO large 1BR EY Platinum deeded week 16 $1836

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...em=280200731133&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI

SVV 2BR LO Platinum (95k SOs) $14,300

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...em=290204128053&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI

SDKath · Feb 26, 2008

SVV 2BR LO Bella Platinum 84,000 SOs
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...em=190195576639&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI

SBP 1BR EY Platinum $2700
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...em=270211818808&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI

rocky · Feb 26, 2008

This is fabulous data. Thanks for all the hard work!

DavidnRobin · Feb 26, 2008

WMH 2Bd LO Gold - $4800 (2/15/08)
http://cgi.ebay.com/WESTIN-MISSION-...ryZ15897QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

DavidnRobin · Feb 26, 2008

Selected eBay Auctions from before April 2007

WKV (56.3K SO) - $5,350
WKV 2Bd LO (81K SO) - $11,550
WKV 2Bd LO (81K SO) - $10,200
WKV 2Bd LO (81K SO) - $10,999
WKV 2Bd LO (81K SO) - $8,751
WSJ 3Bd Week 18 - $39,500
WKV 2Bd LO (148.1K SO) - $21,000
WKV 2Bd LO (81K SO) - $11, 211

DavidnRobin · Mar 1, 2008

WSJ Studio, Weeks 19&20 - $7,800 (2/27/08)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-St-Jo...ryZ15897QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Fantastic Deal by Tugger! :whoopie:

Perfect example as to why it is important to advertise your TS correctly, and know its worth...

GrayFal · Mar 1, 2008

DavidnRobin said:
WSJ Studio, Weeks 19&20 - $7,800 (2/27/08)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-St-Jo...ryZ15897QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Fantastic Deal by Tugger! :whoopie:

YIKES, do we know the winner?????

DavidnRobin · Mar 1, 2008

Perhaps I shouldn't have said this... but I did want to post the eBay ad to be inclusive.

DeniseM · Mar 1, 2008

DavidnRobin said:
WSJ Studio, Weeks 19&20 - $7,800 (2/27/08)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-St-Jo...ryZ15897QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Fantastic Deal by Tugger! :whoopie:

Perfect example as to why it is important to advertise your TS correctly, and know its worth...

Interesting-

The Ad is confusing - is it a 1 bdm. or a studio?

Are you referring to weeks 19 & 20 being Gold, and not Plat?

DavidnRobin · Mar 1, 2008

In that it didn't state Westin in the Title (why my search missed it - otherwise I may have bid...) and had a 'soft' description.

It is a studio, but that sales price is for 2 weeks (thus an incredible deal - WSJ studio for $2900/week - wow!).

In my tracking of eBay - it is really telling that if a seller sets a reserve, a Buy It Now, or a high starting price - they usually go unsold (lots of examples). Also,being very clear about what you are selling - you can tell the sellers that have found TUG in that they know about M resorts - how SVN works - and the difference between SOs and SPs.

The weeks being WSJ Gold, Plat or Plat+ doesn't mean that much - it comes down to the SO worth - also not mentioned.

DavidnRobin · Mar 1, 2008

WSJ Studio, Week 18, Unit 3216 - $10,300 (3/1/08)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180219025677&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008

DavidnRobin · Mar 2, 2008

WMH 2Bd LO, Gold - $5100 (11/1/07)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...sid=m37&satitle=140171971923&category0=&fvi=1
Note: SVO reported to have exercised ROFR (12/3/07)

DavidnRobin · Mar 2, 2008

[Info. about unsold resale deleted - thanks for understanding. DeniseM]

I stated in the 1st post that this was only for completed (and successful) eBay ads.
I did this for a couple of reasons...
1) It opens for people to advertise their units indirectly - and that is against TUG rules, and...
2) There are alot of eBay ads (many more than listed) that I have not listed here because there were no bids or reserve wasn't meant.

This is an example of the reserve not being hit - and therefore wouldn't make this list. If an eBay auction hits its reserve - I will post Westins - if someone wants to add VV or HRA - feel free.

DavidnRobin · Mar 2, 2008

[Information about an unsold week deleted - DeniseM]

This one belongs to a friend of mine--buyer got cold feet and walked--I think she is going to put back on but waited till she sold her week 18.
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Thanks for the update - I did state that it is possible that while this were completed/successful ads - there is no easy way to know if the transaction actually went thru - so goes to show to be careful of this data - like the WMH that had a ROFR.

RLG · Mar 2, 2008

DavidnRobin said:
I have no issue with showing unsuccessful ads - it is just that I didn't want to complie and list because there are alot of them. If someone want to - go ahead, but please be inclusive as to be complete. You can see them by searching on completed ads (at least for the last 30 days).

I would strongly prefer that this thread NOT contain "unsuccesful" auctions.

Are we going to include all the auctions where people set ridiculously high minimum bids and which never sell?

SDKath · Mar 2, 2008

DavidnRobin said:
Thanks for the update - I did state that it is possible that while this were completed/successful ads - there is no easy way to know if the transaction actually went thru - so goes to show to be careful of this data - like the WMH that had a ROFR.

There was a WMH that had ROFR??? I didn't know that? Any info on that? Thanks. Katherine

DeniseM · Mar 2, 2008

I agree - let's comply with the intent of this thread and stick to completed auctions.

I'm going to remove the ones that did not sell, because they could be perceived as Ads - thanks for understanding.

RLG · Mar 2, 2008

DavidnRobin said:
SVO reported to have exercised ROFR (12/3/07)

To be very clear, the buyer reported that SVO "apparently" exercised right of first refusal.

Given that the seller is in the business of selling timeshares (a PCC?), I wouldn't rule out the possibility that the seller lied to the buyer about the ROFR.

DavidnRobin · Mar 3, 2008

All of these eBay sales have potential for not correctly representing accurate sales - for reasons too numerous to list - caveat emptor

btw, that would be risky - there is a specific process for SVO has for doing this - it would be easy to find out and risky business practice {i would eat them alive if it were me...}

DavidnRobin · Mar 3, 2008

RLG said:
I would strongly prefer that this thread NOT contain "unsuccesful" auctions.

Are we going to include all the auctions where people set ridiculously high minimum bids and which never sell?

I agree to a point. But there is a lot of important info to be gleened from the realistic eBay auctions that don't sell - for example - a reserve price that doesn't hit gives info as to what people looking are willing pay (...and not like that idiot selling WPORV as a 3Bd for more than SVO... :doh:

)

There are many out there where someone sets a price that is just too high - or ad is poorly described. As noted - 'no reserve', high start, and poorly described ad are the killer for getting as much as possible.

oh yeah - and absolutely nothing by eBayer timesharebyowner :wall:

but I am not listing

RLG · Mar 3, 2008

DavidnRobin said:
btw, that would be risky - there is a specific process for SVO has for doing this - it would be easy to find out

Yes, it's true that it could be verified. Just check the public records and see if Starwood was the buyer of the unit which was subject to the contract.

The buyer is unlikely to do that. I would be unlikely to do that as well since the seller would just point out that Ebay real estate sales are non-binding.

If the seller told me that, I would react the same as when (as frequently has happened) Ebay buyers tell me they can't pay right away because of a "funeral". I assume they're lying and act accordingly (i.e. I relist the item.). I haven't been proven wrong yet.

RLG · Mar 3, 2008

DavidnRobin said:
I agree to a point. But there is a lot of important info to be gleened from the realistic eBay auctions that don't sell - for example - a reserve price that doesn't hit gives info as to what people looking are willing pay (...and not like that idiot selling WPORV as a 3Bd for more than SVO... )

There are many out there where someone sets a price that is just too high - or ad is poorly described. As noted - 'no reserve', high start, and poorly described ad are the killer for getting as much as possible.

oh yeah - and absolutely nothing by eBayer timesharebyowner

but I am not listing

I assume we can all agree that auctions which attract no bids have no information value.

The question of whether reserve auctions generate bids which are lower than non-reserve auctions has always been a subject of heated debate in the Ebay world. Since I'm much less likely to bid on a reserve auction, I believe that they do.

I'd would agree that unsuccesful reserve auctions which attract bids might contain valuable market data. However, I think they should be in their own thread so that they aren't mixed together with the generally more useful info about auctions which appear to have actually matched a buyer and seller.

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