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New Hilton Hawaiian Village Ala Moana tower gets approval to proceed

The main bus lines in the area on the stop on Halekauwila go down one way streets; Punchbowl and South Street and they are pretty far apart. The bus loading zone would need to be on Punchbowl coming from the airport. However, there also would need to be a bus unloading to get on the rail on South Street. The point that I am making is that coming from the airport and going to the airport by a rail/bus or bus/rail combination will not be an easy get right off one and get right on the other system with luggage since they are not right there. There will be alot of walking that would not be needed if the rail went near to where the people are living or staying.
Unless you are traveling light - 1 small carry on is all you get on The Bus. Any Combo of HART to The Bus will not work if you are carrying 2 items or LARGE bags.

 
Unless you are traveling light - 1 small carry on is all you get on The Bus. Any Combo of HART to The Bus will not work if you are carrying 2 items or LARGE bags.

You are right in theory and in your quote of the actual rule and my husband has been refused entrance to a bus since his shopping bag was toooo big many years ago, however, lately they have been allowing large suitcases in addition to a carry on. The new 20 buses which go to the airport have been built with space to allow for large suitcases to be stored in the isle in a single seat section. I think the point is, and Honolulu gets it, if you want people to use public transportation to go to and from the airport rather than a car then you have to say yes to some reasonable amount of luggage.
 
You are right in theory and in your quote of the actual rule and my husband has been refused entrance to a bus since his shopping bag was toooo big many years ago, however, lately they have been allowing large suitcases in addition to a carry on. The new 20 buses which go to the airport have been built with space to allow for large suitcases to be stored in the isle in a single seat section. I think the point is, and Honolulu gets it, if you want people to use public transportation to go to and from the airport rather than a car then you have to say yes to some reasonable amount of luggage.
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I work at the airport (40 years) and I question your use of the phrase, ā€œreasonable amount of luggageā€

I point to this article from today.


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Does anyone know if any of the units in the new building will be HGV ts?

Assuming the majority if not all of the standard rooms are studio size units, I dont know if many people can fit into those. Normally HGV only allows 2 in the studios.
 
Does anyone know if any of the units in the new building will be HGV ts?

Assuming the majority if not all of the standard rooms are studio size units, I dont know if many people can fit into those. Normally HGV only allows 2 in the studios.
From what I recall from the original press release, this new tower will be 100% hotel. I believe they highlighted the fact that it had been a long time since they last added new hotel rooms to the resort.
 
The main bus lines in the area on the stop on Halekauwila go down one way streets; Punchbowl and South Street and they are pretty far apart. The bus loading zone would need to be on Punchbowl coming from the airport. However, there also would need to be a bus unloading to get on the rail on South Street. The point that I am making is that coming from the airport and going to the airport by a rail/bus or bus/rail combination will not be an easy get right off one and get right on the other system with luggage since they are not right there. There will be alot of walking that would not be needed if the rail went near to where the people are living or staying.
You are assuming that what the bus service is now, will still be the bus service after the rail station opens. When the current operating rail stations opened, every single one of them had a corresponding modification to the bus service in the area.

I think you will see a modification when the rail station opens in 2045, so that you won't have to walk a block to the bus. 2045 is not a typo, my estimate. Let's hope it opens sooner.
 
You are assuming that what the bus service is now, will still be the bus service after the rail station opens. When the current operating rail stations opened, every single one of them had a corresponding modification to the bus service in the area.

I think you will see a modification when the rail station opens in 2045, so that you won't have to walk a block to the bus. 2045 is not a typo, my estimate. Let's hope it opens sooner.
I don't plan on riding any bus by 2045. If we still around we will be in our lat 90's. What I said above is true for then next phase in the 2030s.
 
I don't plan on riding any bus by 2045…
I’m counting on seeing you on Da Bus after we move to Honolulu. Ideally grumbling about how the young whipper snappers don’t realize how easy they’ve got it šŸ˜‰
 
I’m counting on seeing you on Da Bus after we move to Honolulu. Ideally grumbling about how the young whipper snappers don’t realize how easy they’ve got it šŸ˜‰
Well we live at the Wailana at Waikiki which is right across the street from the Hilon Hawaiian village. When you get here just send a note on one of the threads that I am commenting on and we can meet up someplace in Waikiki. The 2,8,13, 20,42,& E all stop either right outside or at the other end on Ena. We ride them all frequently, but we do ride other buses from time to time to go anywhere on Oahu that you want.

However, I don't feel that the young whipper snappers have it easy. Being young is great and we wish we were young and could do it over and not make the same mistakes. But first of all the young still have to work; we don't. We have been retired since 2009. They have to deal with prices that are so much higher than we did to buy a house or condo. We bought our house on Long Island in 1977 for 32K.
 
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