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13 month availability at Lakeshore Reserve?

wballoni

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I just tried to book Lakeshore Reserve 13 months out (September 2026) using points. Precisely at 9:00am ET I refreshed and ... my target date went straight from outside booking window to unavailable. Yet I see plenty of availability in August 2026, the 12 months out window.

Is this common for 13 months out bookings? Is much less inventory released in the 13 month window compared to the 12 month window? Should I just wait a month for the 12 month window and forget about 13 months out?
 
I just tried to book Lakeshore Reserve 13 months out (September 2026) using points. Precisely at 9:00am ET I refreshed and ... my target date went straight from outside booking window to unavailable. Yet I see plenty of availability in August 2026, the 12 months out window.

Is this common for 13 months out bookings? Is much less inventory released in the 13 month window compared to the 12 month window? Should I just wait a month for the 12 month window and forget about 13 months out?

Wait for 12 months and try again. Lakeshore in Sept really shouldn't be that difficult of a reservation to get. The one complication with Lakeshore is there are so many different unit types and not a lot of any of them so depending on how many days you are trying to book it may be more difficult to string like a full week in the same unit type- but again Sept is among the lower demand months of the year for Florida- so I would think you have a very high likelihood of success.
 
I just tried to book Lakeshore Reserve 13 months out (September 2026) using points. Precisely at 9:00am ET I refreshed and ... my target date went straight from outside booking window to unavailable. Yet I see plenty of availability in August 2026, the 12 months out window.

Is this common for 13 months out bookings? Is much less inventory released in the 13 month window compared to the 12 month window? Should I just wait a month for the 12 month window and forget about 13 months out?
I can't speak specifically for LR but it is common to see no availability at 13 months and have good availability at 12 months out. Granted I'm generally looking for options that are higher demand. I get the sense that they often don't add much inventory at 13 months out. Keep checking as it's not uncommon to see something pop up after 13 months but before 12 months.
 
Thanks for the responses. Good to hear that I still have a fighting chance to getting something in September of next year. I should have included that I'm going for a 3 bedroom. But again, I see 3 bedroom availability in August of next year, so I read that to mean there is more inventory made available at 12 months than 13 months.

I'll keep looking for something between now and when my target date 12 month window opens. If nothing becomes available before then, hopefully 12 months out will yield availability.
 
Thanks for the responses. Good to hear that I still have a fighting chance to getting something in September of next year. I should have included that I'm going for a 3 bedroom. But again, I see 3 bedroom availability in August of next year, so I read that to mean there is more inventory made available at 12 months than 13 months.

I'll keep looking for something between now and when my target date 12 month window opens. If nothing becomes available before then, hopefully 12 months out will yield availability.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
 
I suspect a lot depends on how many weeks are deeded and can be converted to trust points vs how much trust inventory is available at a resort. I typically see better 13 month inventory at trust heavy locations than deed heavy locations. At any rate, I begin my search’s at 13 months and continue daily searches until I find the particular week and check in day that I want. Resorts that are mostly deeded weeks and have very strong trade power, like the winter weeks in S Florida, can be a tough reservation using points when the deeded week owners feel they can get better value as a weeks exchange. In those instances it’s best to utilize the wait list and see what pops.
 
I just looked at September 2026 and looks like there is plenty of inventory available. Maybe you tried too soon, sometimes the computers don't update right away.
 
I just looked at September 2026 and looks like there is plenty of inventory available. Maybe you tried too soon, sometimes the computers don't update right away.
I don't see any availability for September 2026. I'm looking specifically for a 3 bedroom, but I also don't see any studios, 1 or 2 bedrooms available either. There is August 2026 availability (12 months out). Are you looking at Lakeshore Reserve?
 
I don't see any availability for September 2026. I'm looking specifically for a 3 bedroom, but I also don't see any studios, 1 or 2 bedrooms available either. There is August 2026 availability (12 months out). Are you looking at Lakeshore Reserve?
I am seeing 1 and 2 BR availability for 7 nights at Lakeshore in September 2026, but no 3BR.
 
I am seeing 1 and 2 BR availability for 7 nights at Lakeshore in September 2026, but no 3BR.
Thanks, I now see that as well. I had the number of guests set to 9+ which probably excluded everything but 3 bedrooms, which are not available.
 
Maybe get a combo (studio+2 bedroom) now and switch at 12 months
 
Maybe get a combo (studio+2 bedroom) now and switch at 12 months
The problem I see with that approach is it decreases their chances of getting the 3 BR if they have to cancel and rebook. If they have enough points to hold both, then I'd agree but if not, I'd just wait and try at 12 months out.
 
The problem I see with that approach is it decreases their chances of getting the 3 BR if they have to cancel and rebook. If they have enough points to hold both, then I'd agree but if not, I'd just wait and try at 12 months out.

What do you think the chances are that someone else is looking for the exact same unit at the exact same time as you’re trying to cancel and re-book? Even if that happens it’s easy enough to re-book the original reservation scheme of a 2 bedroom and an extra studio unit.

We’ve actually cancelled and rebooked when we found what we were really looking for without issues a few times. Our main reason for cancelling first and then rebooking was to keep all our points in the same usage years. Perhaps some day we’ll get burnt, but it hasn’t happened yet.
 
What do you think the chances are that someone else is looking for the exact same unit at the exact same time as you’re trying to cancel and re-book? Even if that happens it’s easy enough to re-book the original reservation scheme of a 2 bedroom and an extra studio unit.

We’ve actually cancelled and rebooked when we found what we were really looking for without issues a few times. Our main reason for cancelling first and then rebooking was to keep all our points in the same usage years. Perhaps some day we’ll get burnt, but it hasn’t happened yet.
For a lakeshore 3 BR I think there is real risk of missing the reservation with even just a few minute delay. It might work out but it might not. Ultimately it depends on their needs and decisions. IF a 2 BR plus studio is workable and that is their preference over say a 3 BR at GV, they could take the recommendation to make separate reservations now or better, book the 2 separate units at the time IF the 3 BR were not available. If this were something where one were likely to be shut out AND the separate unit configuration were workable then I'd go with your suggestion. Personally I'd also consider an exchange request (or 2) and possibly get two 2 BR units there or at least a 1 & 2 BR if not a 3 BR. We should also remember the waitlist option though it requires the extra points to do so.
 
Maybe get a combo (studio+2 bedroom) now and switch at 12 months
That's a possibility. But I don't have enough points to book studio+2 bedroom and a 3 bedroom at the same time, as Dean mentioned. Given that there is still 3 bedroom availability in August 2026, I'm willing to bet that 3 bedrooms will show up at 12 months out. In the worst case I should be able to get a studio and 2 bedroom as a plan B, although I have my heart set on a 3 bedroom.
 
That's a possibility. But I don't have enough points to book studio+2 bedroom and a 3 bedroom at the same time, as Dean mentioned. Given that there is still 3 bedroom availability in August 2026, I'm willing to bet that 3 bedrooms will show up at 12 months out. In the worst case I should be able to get a studio and 2 bedroom as a plan B, although I have my heart set on a 3 bedroom.
Do you have enough to book the 3 BR and either the studio or 2 BR? If so you could investigate the option less likely to be available and possibly book that then cancel what you don't need later. Remember you can always get MVC to adjust the points within a given reservation to make sure you use the least desirable points in that reservation.
 
Do you have enough to book the 3 BR and either the studio or 2 BR? If so you could investigate the option less likely to be available and possibly book that then cancel what you don't need later. Remember you can always get MVC to adjust the points within a given reservation to make sure you use the least desirable points in that reservation.
Interesting thought. I have just enough points to get a studio and a 3 bedroom. I'll think about this.
 
Interesting thought. I have just enough points to get a studio and a 3 bedroom. I'll think about this.
A few years ago I had plans to go to Maui for a week with family. I'm going from memory so some of the parameters may not be perfect but the principles will be applicable. I needed a 2 BR and wanted the best view possible in the new building so we'd have a kitchen/laundry and all reservations mentioned are in the new buildings. I initially was able to reserve a separate studio and 1 BR different views. I'm thinking one IV and one OV initially. With WL I worked up over about 4 or 5 iterations to a 2 BR OF. Volume can be your friend at least until the maintenance fees are due.
 
I have a different take, than those above (a common phenomenon).

I suspect that the Revenue Manager, the MVC employee who control the inventory, did not release the inventory as he/she was supposed to.

I suggest you call MVC Owner Services, and push the person that you talk to, hard; ask them to look into whether or not the inventory that you are looking for, was released. If you get to a motivated supervisor, they can investigate that.

September is a dead month in Orlando. The only variable that I can think of, that I am not aware of, is if Lakeshore Reserve has some number of units, off-service, for refurbishment.

I don’t remember, did Lakeshore Reserve ever sell “weeks,” or is Lakeshore Reserve an all “points” resort?
 
You could also consider the three-bedroom villas at Imperial Palm, and have access to Marriott’s Orlando World Center.

In my experience, people often forget about Imperial Palm.
 
I have a different take, than those above (a common phenomenon).

I suspect that the Revenue Manager, the MVC employee who control the inventory, did not release the inventory as he/she was supposed to.

I suggest you call MVC Owner Services, and push the person that you talk to, hard; ask them to look into whether or not the inventory that you are looking for, was released. If you get to a motivated supervisor, they can investigate that.

September is a dead month in Orlando. The only variable that I can think of, that I am not aware of, is if Lakeshore Reserve has some number of units, off-service, for refurbishment.

I don’t remember, did Lakeshore Reserve ever sell “weeks,” or is Lakeshore Reserve an all “points” resort?
I believe it was opened the year before points came on the scene so I assume they did sell weeks there. Since they are not required to release inventory at 13 months, I don't see becoming adversarial on this matter as reasonable or likely to yield access to inventory.
 
You could also consider the three-bedroom villas at Imperial Palm, and have access to Marriott’s Orlando World Center.

In my experience, people often forget about Imperial Palm.
We have 6 adults and 4 kids. The third bedroom at Imperial Palms doesn't really work for us.
 
I believe it was opened the year before points came on the scene so I assume they did sell weeks there. Since they are not required to release inventory at 13 months, I don't see becoming adversarial on this matter as reasonable or likely to yield access to inventory.
According to Hawaii disclosures I have from 2022, the trust owned at the time the equivalent of about 25 units from the total of 86. So the trust owns about 30% of the unit weeks.
 
According to Hawaii disclosures I have from 2022, the trust owned at the time the equivalent of about 25 units from the total of 86. So the trust owns about 30% of the unit weeks.

That’s interesting, thank you.

The Revenue Manager may well have made a mistake, or there may have been a technical error (which is not foreign to MVC). At a resort like Lakeshore Reserve, the Revenue Manager has at least 6 inventory types to manage/release: (1) weeks, and week/villa variations, such as unit size/villa configuration, (2) points/Trust (at a variety of booking windows), (3) Interval International exchange inventory (and, related, bulk bank weeks for (a) exchange, and (b) Getaways, (4) Developer inventory, in which the Developer is holding the mortgage (e.g. unsold or defaulted on MVC loan or maintenance fees, inventory), that will be sold through Marriott marketing channels, like www.marriott.com, (5) Marketing Block inventory, for sales/marketing enterprise, and (6) Developer inventory, in which the Developer paid for Marriott Bonvoy points, that were provided to the owner, in lieu of occupancy (these may be marketed for Bonvoy redemption). There may be an additional pool of inventory, that I am not familiar with, that may have been created with the advent of Abound/Vistana, and that is inventory that is moved between brands.
 
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