Be careful boating near US waters

[am1]

Unexplainable and seems one is left to fend for themselves.

Public service announcement.

 

[davidvel]

Unexplainable and seems one is left to fend for themselves.

Public service announcement.

It seems it was explained quite well by the newsperson, Canadian boater, and USCG. The boater only disputes that he was in the U.S. USCG provides the lat/lon which is in the U.S. Boater provides no pictures, GPS, etc., but feels in his heart he was not in U.S.

I guess a few low level officers could fake GPS data and delete records or video to blame a lowly Canadian fisherman, risking their careers, but I haven't seen any evidence of this.

 

[easyrider]

I've been boarded by both the Canadian and US Coast Gaurds a few times. The important thing is not trying to evade them because that's a crime. You just take your lumps if lumps are given.

Bill

 

[beejaybee]

Better have Google maps on voice when sailing the Great Lakes so that you can quickly turn around when you hear the announcement, "Welcome to Canada"!

 

[davidvel]

Better have Google maps on voice when sailing the Great Lakes so that you can quickly turn around when you hear the announcement, "Welcome to Canada"!

Hopefully mariners traveling near international borders have better nav skills, but it may work if you have data. Though technically it would be too late. Big white boys are also an aid.

 

[am1]

He may or may not have been over a non marked water border but how does one explain almost drowning the boater?

 

[davidvel]

He may or may not have been over a non marked water border but how does one explain almost drowning the boater?

U.S. Coast Guard explained it succinctly: (from the video)

While the Coast Guard's 29-ft response boat-small was alongside the vessel, the operator put the vessel in motion and ignored commands to maintain course and speed for boarding purposes. The vessel then made an abrupt starboard turn and struck the port bow of the Coast Guard small boat at coordinates 45°00.792'N, 073°10.608'W, approximately 65 yards south of the U.S./Canadian border. The collision caused the vessel to capsize, putting the operator in the water.

You don't have to believe them, but if you do, the captain failed to comply and crashed into the side of the coast guard vessel. I am next to certain there is video. If the Canadian boater tries to sue or otherwise escalate this, I expect we will all see the video. Like in vehicle pursuits, many of these people think they are playing tag, and if they just get to "home base" they are safe.

 

[easyrider]

Better have Google maps on voice when sailing the Great Lakes so that you can quickly turn around when you hear the announcement, "Welcome to Canada"!

I think Americas and Canadians are allowed to cross the water boundary as long as you don't anchor , moor or meet another vessel. It's been a while but when you moor you need to tie off at an official customs dock, call customs from the dock phone and wait for a customs official that checks everyone's passport and the boat. I was busted for only having one oar which I never used. In Canada, you are required to have two oars that you won't use, lol. I had to buy an oar before we could leave.

Bill

 

[davidvel]

I think Americas and Canadians are allowed to cross the water boundary as long as you don't anchor , moor or meet another vessel. It's been a while but when you moor you need to tie off at an official customs dock, call customs from the dock phone and wait for a customs official that checks everyone's passport and the boat. I was busted for only having one oar which I never used. In Canada, you are required to have two oars that you won't use, lol. I had to buy an oar before we could leave.

Bill

That is not what the USCG said in the video, but personally I have no idea. He said you need some type of permit to cross the line. Either way, USCG can inspect any vessel coming into the U.S. whether having made landfall or not, as well as any vessel simply in U.S. waters. 4th Amendment is limited in these situations.

 

[easyrider]

That is not what the USCG said in the video, but personally I have no idea. He said you need some type of permit to cross the line. Either way, USCG can inspect any vessel coming into the U.S. whether having made landfall or not, as well as any vessel simply in U.S. waters. 4th Amendment is limited in these situations.

Going into Canada by boat is about the same for Americans as Canadians going into the USA. I'm not sure how different areas are enforced. My only experience is the Washington San Juan Islands and Salish Sea to Victoria BC. Our halibut hole is on the Canadian side and with a Canadian fishing license we were allowed two halibut a day. We would stop over in Victoria to get the license and cigars.

I thought the guy in the video was trying to get away from the US Coast Guard which is illegal.

Bill

 

[AJCts411]

Live on the boarder. Boat many many times on the river and lake, "both sides" of the boarder and so long as you do not anchor, (or go on land) you do not need to report in, so we go to party places like Gull Island, (Mi) not necessary to report in...and many coastguard and police present in boats, never an issue. And fish both sides of the unmarked river, no issues. There are patrol boats etc present, and boaters/fishers do get stopped for inspection. Both US and Canadian based. So if you choose to ignore enforcement orders, then you are a dumb ass and author of your own grief. Nothing has changed, but in the propaganda of some media malcontents. (Yes we do cross regularly.)

 

[WaikikiFirst]

Unexplainable ... Public service announcement.

My word, the propaganda from the Echo Chamber never ends. Reminds me of the banana stand in Arrested Development. Our neighbors to the north seem to want to be a frozen banana republic.
PSA = Propaganda Saturates Airwaves

 

[WaikikiFirst]

Nothing has changed, but in the propaganda of some media malcontents

What has changed is the absolute DESPERATION of the malcontents. It is pathetic