Advice for buying a cheap Marriott resale for trading

[ada903]

I am interested in buying a cheap resale two bedroom lockout where I can trade both sides through the Marriott or II exchange system for lower seasons into Hawaii. Which resorts have two bedroom lockouts that allow trading both sides, and have decent maintenance fees? Thanks in advance for any help on this.

 

[billymach4]

I would look at

Horizons by Marriott Vacation Club at Branson • MHB
Horizons by Marriott Vacation Club at Orlando • MHZ
Marriott's Desert Springs Villas and Desert Springs Villas II • MDS & MPD
Marriott's Grande Vista • MGV & MGR
Marriott's Shadow Ridge • MRD

 

[ada903]

thanks, I will check them all out!

 

[dioxide45]

Try checking out this old thread.

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76772

 

[thinze3]

I would look at

Horizons by Marriott Vacation Club at Branson • MHB
Horizons by Marriott Vacation Club at Orlando • MHZ
Marriott's Desert Springs Villas and Desert Springs Villas II • MDS & MPD
Marriott's Grande Vista • MGV & MGR
Marriott's Shadow Ridge • MRD

For really cheap, I agree. I am not so sure that the old Horizons units do not have a bit less trade power than the others on your list. Who knows??

The last 3 can be bought for about $7K each.

 

[Cobra1950]

Summittwatch Park City Bronze weeks were selling for $1500 through Marriott, might be a few left, we bought one, Flexchange trades ok

 

[ada903]

That's a good thread to read, thanks!

Flexchange is the 60 day window in II, before check-in, correct? Is there still a Marriott priority over other owners during flexchange? And are all Marriott weeks the same trade power during flexchange?

 

[billymach4]

That's a good thread to read, thanks!

Flexchange is the 60 day window in II, before check-in, correct? Is there still a Marriott priority over other owners during flexchange? And are all Marriott weeks the same trade power during flexchange?

Yes, yes, and yes!

I had a MSW Bronze, Sold it for $1000 Bucks on Ebay. Summit Watch Maint Fees are creeping up over $1000, That is why I did not list it. It was a great trader, but you had to work hard at it. I found myself on II all day long. The other properties will get you what you want without all of the legwork.

If you want to look at Summit Watch you can also get gold or Silver units under 5K. If want to go Bronze I can get you in touch with MVCI in Orlando. Don't speak to MVCI sales cause they will lie and tell you there is no such thing as a MSW Bronze. Just PM me and I will dig up the information.

 

[ada903]

thanks, PM coming your way!

 

[Stefa]

I am not so sure that the old Horizons units do not have a bit less trade power than the others on your list. Who knows?

I am a new owner of a platinum Branson week and my (admittedly limited) experience has been that the unit has slightly less trade power than others. I locked off the 2010 week and the 1br would not pull as many 2br units as my friend's Grande Vista.

I am satisfied with my ownership and the trades I have gotten, but I went into the purchase with lowered expectations.

 

[rthib]

I am interested in buying a cheap resale two bedroom lockout where I can trade both sides through the Marriott or II exchange system for lower seasons into Hawaii. Which resorts have two bedroom lockouts that allow trading both sides, and have decent maintenance fees? Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Do you already own a Marriott Time Share?
Are you very flexible with you time?
If not then my advice is none of the above.

Buying a "cheap" time share with hopes of trading usually ends up with unhappy owners unless you really know what you are doing and are flexible.

While this may not apply to you, since these threads are around forever here is the advice I give when others have asked me the same question.

When you buy a time share, the only thing you are buying is the right to use that time share during the season you buy it.
Everything else (trading, points etc...) are subject to change either because Marriott decides to change the program or environments change.

 

[funtime]

I am happy with our Marriott Shadow Ridge which has a spring/fall season. It is an EOY that we got on ebay. Funtime

 

[ada903]

I already own Starwoods, for trading purposes only, and it saved me a ton of money, I have never been disappointed with the trades - and that's because we typically travel off season. We are flexible and know how to work the system. I know what I'm getting into, so no worries there. I am just trying to figure the lowest maintenance fee / decent trading power ratio for a two bedroom annual lockoff, and I am still thinking if to get another Starwoods or try the Marriott.

 

[LAX Mom]

If you want more trading power than a bronze Summit Watch, then I would suggest looking at a summer season (gold) Summit Watch or Mountainside. They seem to be excellent traders and can be purchased very cheaply on ebay.

 

[jlf58]

Man, what a great idea. I wonder if anyone else has thought of that. Hey, maybe down the road, Marriott will figure out how to stop that from happening. They will probably call it something like " a point system" where you get what you pay for in exchanges. Nah, that was just a dream I had so go for it. What are the odds on a system rolling out like that in the next 60 days or so ? That gives you plenty of time to buy, close and complain how you can't trade up into Hawaii and how it's all Marriott's fault

I am interested in buying a cheap resale two bedroom lockout where I can trade both sides through the Marriott or II exchange system for lower seasons into Hawaii. Which resorts have two bedroom lockouts that allow trading both sides, and have decent maintenance fees? Thanks in advance for any help on this.

 

[DanCali]

Oh no - it's turning into another points system thread

 

[jlf58]

nah, just a common sense thread LOL

Oh no - it's turning into another points system thread

 

[ada903]

I heard the story about Marriott rolling out the points system for five years now.

Besides, Starwoods has the points too, for internal exchange only, but with II, the points do not come into play, so my Starwood weeks are great trades through II, using the priority for Starwoods members.

 

[jlf58]

Than your sources stink. I heard it straight for a person who used to work there. Oh yeah, that was me. Buying offseason Marriott weeks before the end of the year is like buying stock the week before the recession hit.

I heard the story about Marriott rolling out the points system for five years now.

Besides, Starwoods has the points too, for internal exchange only, but with II, the points do not come into play, so my Starwood weeks are great trades through II, using the priority for Starwoods members.

 

[scrapngen]

THis doesn't seem to be a hijacking or change of this thread at all IMO.

In Fletch's defense (not that he needs help defending himself ) It seems reasonable to simply suggest that the OP's plan might wait - what - one or two months, now?? - before buying. If something rolls out, then the warning was helpful, and saves the OP from a possible headache. If nothing changes, then prices also won't really be much different in two months time, and, again, the OP hasn't really lost anything but two months - in TS, not a long time at all. The OP may have noticed the threads re: possible Marriott changes, but they might not have, so a heads up is, IMHO, another kind TUG type of help when someone is asking about a purchase...

Edit: Yikes, I'm a slow typer...Fletch and others are already going far beyond my little response...

 

[ada903]

Despite the sarcastic tone of some of the postings (what happened to being nice?), the info is very useful, I read some of the threads about the changes that may be on the way, and will stay out and watch for now. I may end up buying another Starwoods resale week. Thanks for the advice everyone.

 

[jlf58]

sorry, I didn't get to kick my dog today
You got the point, wait, the weeks will still be there in the Fall

Despite the sarcastic tone of some of the postings (what happened to being nice?), the info is very useful, I read some of the threads about the changes that may be on the way, and will stay out and watch for now. I may end up buying another Starwoods resale week. Thanks for the advice everyone.

 

[ada903]

Yes, and thank you again for the info, exactly what I needed!

 

[dioxide45]

Yes, and thank you again for the info, exactly what I needed!

Or just buy DVC, Fletch can help with that, he has no motive promote Marriott.

 

[billymach4]

Who knows what is going to happen in 2 months, 6 months, or 6 years. Marriott's will still be trading outside of II. Inside of II. Between people like you and me.

We all will continue to trade within II and get great vacations. End of story!

What ever will be will be.

Until I see something official in writing from Marriott on this internal points thing it is a RUMOR plain and simple.

Threads like this will continue to perpetuate until the end of time. Notice we are hearing within the next 60 days......

I thought June was the drop dead date..... In 60 days it will be next year, and so the story lives on into infinity.

That is my story and I am sticking to it!