Both outdoor pools at Surfwatch are heated. (I was just there for Christmas/NY week.) Yes, at Barony, the outdoor pool closet to the clubhouse is heated but NOT the pool down by the beach. (Have also been there for Christmas/NY week.) At Grande Ocean, I thought the small outdoor pool up by the clubhouse was heated?
I have traded into Barony three times, including mid-August, and have always been placed in an oceanside building (on request). The last time, this past summer, we were placed in a villa directly behind the oceanfront unit, where we had a gorgeous view of the beach and ocean from our balcony. (We were also about a minute's walk from the beach.) On the flip side, I have been in one of the back buildings at Grande Ocean and the walk to the ocean was longer than at Surfwatch. (Have also been oceanfront at GO, which was lovely.) Surfwatch does sit back from the beach - it is beyond the protected wetlands. It is a little further but there are still some beautiful unobstructed ocean views.
I have gone to Hilton Head 2-3 times per year for the past 14 years, and unless I'm staying in Sea Pines (which I have done), I will only go there once in a week-long trip, many times not at all. Don't get me wrong, I love Sea Pines but I also love other parts of the island just as much, including the Port Royal area where both Barony and Surfwatch are located.
Surfwatch has the BEST indoor pool complex of the three. It is housed in a building all its own, is large and very 'open' and bright. Unlike jme, I love to swim in the outdoor heated pools in the winter. They're usually very warm, not crowded at all, and I like to finish with a dip in the hot tub. That warms the body up for the walk back to the room. However, in October, it should still be fairly warm on the island, you might even go in the ocean that time of year!
I would think that is a big plus for a 'girls' week! I have a very good friend who lives in a condo at the Jersey shore and lots of times when her husband goes out of town for the weekend, we have a 'sleepover' at her house. There is usually anywhere between 6-10 of us (ranging in age from late 20's to mid 60's) and we eat, drink, talk, play games, stay up late, and just have a great time! The next morning, we have breakfast and head for the outlets in Atlantic City. The point is that I could definitely see us all doing massages (or facials or pedicures) together. That would be awesome! BTW, I have done the massage at the Barony (Hubby and I did them together one year) and we both loved it! It was nice to just have to wander back to our room afterward, not get in the car and drive.
I am not trying to knock jme, but he is obviously very biased toward Grande Ocean. I have stayed in all three on more than one occasion but do not own at any of them. I have also stayed at other places on the island. (I own at Island Links and Royal Dunes b/c I like the Port Royal section of the island and Hubby loves to golf.) I think for the time of year that you are going and the purpose of the trip my order would be (FWIW):
Barony, Surfwatch, Grande Ocean
However, they are all great resorts.
Wherever you end up, just being on the island is fabulous! Take the time and plan an excursion into Savannah if you've never been. It's a nice day trip, about a 50-60 min drive. Check the advance setting under both the Marriott board and the Eastern board for detailed HHI restaurant information.
Enjoy!!
Whoa, lots of stuff here, BUT........ I'll stay away from most of it because it boils down to a debate of personal preferences (and that's not productive anyway because we all have our preferences-----we all married different spouses, right?), except for a few things. I'll preface it all by saying that unequivocably Surfwatch, Barony, and Grande Ocean are three fantastic resorts, all very popular, and are all heads and shoulders above most all resorts anywhere (not all, but most), especially outside the Marriott system, and certainly nothing at HH compares, not even Disney, which is the closest....
Check out GOOGLEMAPS for real aerial satellite photos of resorts and actual distances from the beach. No way, no way at all, that ANY bldg at Surfwatch is closer to the beach than "back buildings" of Grande Ocean. "Back bldgs" of GO are a 3-minute walk to beach, and they do not provide, or need, golf cart rides to the beach like they do at SW. No biggie, tho, because SW is fine for what it is.
Here's Surfwatch below, and as you can see, it's a real hike to the beach, to say the least, especially if you've got beach chairs. It's a lovely resort, with fantastic units, but it's not exactly an "oceanfront resort" ---but again that's not so important because HHI has mostly non-oceanfront resorts, and just being there is what's truly important.....Surfwatch is located on a marsh which separates all bldgs from the ocean. A pretty setting for sure.
It takes binoculars to see the ocean, yes it does, (except one lone "front bldg"), and even then it's a shot of horizon only, no sand. But that's not really important because it's still beyond nice, but let's not call it oceanfront. It's a true luxury resort, "near the ocean". I've walked that property even before it was built, and it's a relaxing place, very tranquil....on a marsh and in the woods. I could, but I don't own there for a reason.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...478,-80.695438&spn=0.004222,0.009538&t=h&z=17.
BTW, Surfwatch weeks in bronze season are listed now on Ebay for $1, if anyone's interested. Hmmmmmmm.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Hilton-Head-Isl...dZViewItemQQptZTimeshares?hash=item5639657028.
Barony is great, and we own because of the SPA (never used it, but bought pre-construction because of it.....whatever) , but it's a very small resort on a narrower beach. Beautiful units, tho. Only two areas with oceanfront units, those facing the ocean in Morning Glory and Sea Oat. Smaller pools (only 2), sort of cramped and crowded in summer, but again, a true luxury resort. WE TRADE.
Sometimes a girl trip by wife and friends, staying in Morning Glory, section/phase we purchased. Traders-in usually get Garden units (phase I), a few hundred yards away, behind Westin Hotel-----no ocean views possible. Some lucky traders in non-high seasons get phase II units, but not usually.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...861,-80.682296&spn=0.003994,0.009538&t=h&z=17
Grande Ocean is located where the William Hilton Hotel was located originally, which was the very first hotel on the island, and they chose well back then------the very widest stretch of beach on the island. Smart. I stayed there often as a child. Been gong to HH now for 40+ years. Stayed everywhere, in every plantation and virtually in or near every resort, going back decades. Even stayed at Westin Hotel several times.
GO is a large resort, spread out, and with two different sections....a more open area and a lagoon area....totally different, with different feels. Three really LARGE pools and one heated lap pool....several hot tubs. The indoor pool, however, is not as spectacular, imho (still nice, but smaller) as Barony's or SW's, but I think Barony's is the prettiest. SW's is a bit claustrophobic to me, which was my first impression. Barony's is just simply beautiful-----architecturally and esthetically more pleasing. My kids say the same. We've toured SW several times, and we're very very familiar with Barony. All are quality.
I can totally understand why a girls' trip may best be accomplished at Barony----it's the SPA-----All Marriott units, whether at GO, Barony, or SW, are luxurious (and hence, essentially the same), so being at my favorite location Grande Ocean just doesn't matter so much in the long run......I totally understand! There's no wrong answer here. Any of the three Marrott resorts (& even Monarch, which is oceanfront but it's not luxurious) would suffice. My personal preference, tho, for a dozen+ reasons, is still GO. That's why we own 3 highest-end weeks there. And why we never trade them. Wife and kids (now college-aged) would kill me. As a family, we could own SW, but don't. We could stay at Barony, but don't.
We've stayed at GO about 60 times now, for real.. Biased? not really. I'd call it more a judgment call, based on many factors. We went in with no biases when we first toured (that goes for all resorts we've ever toured), and we chose based on certain criteria, being quite objective. I've discovered over the years that all GO owners seem to feel the same way. We think we own the very finest resort on the east coast, and we have both our own personal feelings and non-biased Marriott facts and statistics to back it up.
Barony, notwithstanding its own great reputation, sold because GO was sold out, and they pushed it heavily (Marriott quality anywhere sells), and likewise, SW started selling because Barony was essentially sold out (at least platinum weeks) AND because they were then pushing it heavily (and the 3-BR option was sort of a gimmick, imho, for selling somewhat off the ocean in that particular location. It's not a BAD location, it just needed another selling point to be attractive, and the 3-BR concept did it, because there are scant few 3-BR's at HH.)
Now, does this look "like a concrete jungle" below (as another different poster reported)? (frankly, it's anything but....and that's not a bias)
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...686,-80.762188&spn=0.002112,0.004769&t=h&z=18.
See GO pics of landscape
http://www.ritzpix.com/net/Albums/L...F4EC152833D3202CF95927343F6DE634BB14F5C88C762.
The units at GO are larger, no question. Newer resorts always get smaller with the unit sizes. So Barony is slightly smaller, being the second NEW Marriott resort in the 90's at HHI.......SW is smallest yet in unit size and feel (includes sizes of living room, bedrooms, etc), and is the newest. Not a deal-breaker, just a factoid.
GO is closer to Sea Pines. Despite one comment, SP has the best bike trails I've ever seen, has 80% of the island's finest private homes (for a reason), and has many great shops and restaurants---many reasons to visit several times during a vacation week. The Waterfront Cafe (old Cafe Europa) below the lighthouse in Harbour Town, has the best brunch anywhere, and an awesome "regular" lunch menu (dinner too)......and beautiful views of the waterways.
Sea Pines also has one of the world's finest championship golf courses, Harbour Town Golf Club, where a pro tournament is held annually. Sea Pines DOES NOT have the best resorts, but it's one of the major areas, if not THE major area, of visitation on HHI. South Beach is in there, too...a great destination for shopping, entertainment, etc. The world-famous Salty Dog Cafe store is there too. Gotta have those t-shirts. "Not going in there but once a week" is a personal choice, but somebody's missing a ton of stuff.
Palmetto Dunes and Shipyard Plantations are awesome too, I agree...
Port Royal is nice too, but SP has far more to offer in the way of activites (& every other category). Millions of visitors' opinions couldn't be wrong. Imagine this----there are actually people who hate Hilton Head, and so I can therefore understand that there could also then be some who don't particularly like Sea Pines.....There are even some who don't care for Grande Ocean. Ok, that's cool.
That's why we have hundreds and thousands of different resorts, scattered all over the globe. That's why some choose to live in Georgia and some in New Jersey. (delete, delete, delete)
Ok, fine. We do agree, tho, that we love vacations, I hope. Beach sand is a wonderful thing, and has brought us all together, and caused all the more joy and happiness to spill out amongst us and our children, and so we'll repeat it year after year, ad infinitum.
Whatever you do with that girls trip, you'll honestly enjoy whichever Marriott you choose. Can't go wrong. Who knows, for a dollar, you could even own one.