peartree
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They claim to recover from fraud events then bill me for half of recovery. Anyone have a comment?
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[2009] Audit Recovery System
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Are you asking if they can get you out of your timeshare contract?
Was fraud committed when you purchased, or do you just want out of it?
What does "bill you for half the recovery" mean?
Was fraud committed when you purchased, or do you just want out of it?
What does "bill you for half the recovery" mean?
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There are some companies which claim that they can get you out of a TS contract long after the period you can rescind. I believe the way they do this is by claiming that some kind of fraud was committed by the salesmen. I have heard nothing from anyone I trust that this is possible and/or is legal.
Isn't it a fraud to falsely claim that a fraud was committed when it wasn't ?
IMHO stay away from any company which asks you to lie to get out of a TS contract.
Isn't it a fraud to falsely claim that a fraud was committed when it wasn't ?
IMHO stay away from any company which asks you to lie to get out of a TS contract.
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Bill4728:
If the poster feels that fraud was committed, who are you to imply that it was not.( that is up to the court to decide)
If the poster feels that fraud was committed, who are you to imply that it was not.( that is up to the court to decide)
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A person can determine if fraud occurred by looking at what is in writing. No sense to waste money based on what someone said. Can't prove it either way. I think these companies fighting fraud are likely fraudulent.
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It never ceases to amaze me how many inventive ways these charlatans come up with to fleece folks out of their money. If only these cretins would use their powers for good, instead of evil...
peartree
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I paid RII Stroman $499 2 years ago for "advertisement" to sell my TS. Nothing happened.
TUG_Mike757
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I was contacted by Audit Recovery Systems and they said that they will seek to recover any monies that I spent to sell my timeshare that were most likely just frauds.
Their fee is 50% after they have recovered any of my money. Sounds good but I do not want to give them my credit card information ahead of time. I have spent about $1,400 with three companies and I am not sure if it is worth the hassle.
The companies were:
US Timeshare management $441
Resale Buy Owner $472
Timeshares Only $600
Does anyone have any experience with this Audit Recovery Systems? Or are they just one more of the many timeshare scams going around?
Thanks,
Mike
www.auditrecoverysystems.com
I was contacted by Audit Recovery Systems and they said that they will seek to recover any monies that I spent to sell my timeshare that were most likely just frauds.
Their fee is 50% after they have recovered any of my money. Sounds good but I do not want to give them my credit card information ahead of time. I have spent about $1,400 with three companies and I am not sure if it is worth the hassle.
The companies were:
US Timeshare management $441
Resale Buy Owner $472
Timeshares Only $600
Does anyone have any experience with this Audit Recovery Systems? Or are they just one more of the many timeshare scams going around?
Thanks,
Mike
www.auditrecoverysystems.com
Audit Recovery Systems
I also received a phone call from Audit Recovery Systems and they claimed to be able to recover the scammed money I sent for a time share to be sold by Premiere Time Share Solutions. The phone solicitor was very pushy and wanted me to send a contract back which they emailed me ASAP. It included a signature block, credit card information and also the credit card CCV. What was going through my mind was that this is another scam and that there would be some guy in Hong Kong who would make a large purchase with that information. Anyway, I checked with WhoIs.net and they have only had a website for 1 week, so I doubt that they could have any of the track record that they claim to have. Here is the website registration information:
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: AUDITRECOVERYSYSTEMS.COM
Created on: 26-Oct-09
Expires on: 26-Oct-14
Last Updated on: 26-Oct-09
I would be very cautious especially with giving out the information that they seek. Good luck and never be so gullible again. If it sounds too good to be true--it is!
I also received a phone call from Audit Recovery Systems and they claimed to be able to recover the scammed money I sent for a time share to be sold by Premiere Time Share Solutions. The phone solicitor was very pushy and wanted me to send a contract back which they emailed me ASAP. It included a signature block, credit card information and also the credit card CCV. What was going through my mind was that this is another scam and that there would be some guy in Hong Kong who would make a large purchase with that information. Anyway, I checked with WhoIs.net and they have only had a website for 1 week, so I doubt that they could have any of the track record that they claim to have. Here is the website registration information:
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: AUDITRECOVERYSYSTEMS.COM
Created on: 26-Oct-09
Expires on: 26-Oct-14
Last Updated on: 26-Oct-09
I would be very cautious especially with giving out the information that they seek. Good luck and never be so gullible again. If it sounds too good to be true--it is!
Audit Recovery Systems
I talked with the people at this company and also they gave me a reference of a client who had funds returned. Their strategy and the reference checked out, so I jumped off the cliff and provided them with information to process my Timeshare scam claim. I'll let you know in future posts how it goes.
I talked with the people at this company and also they gave me a reference of a client who had funds returned. Their strategy and the reference checked out, so I jumped off the cliff and provided them with information to process my Timeshare scam claim. I'll let you know in future posts how it goes.
smartnurse
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I just talked to them as well tonight and will see what they come up with --2 of the outfits I have been scammed by are getting checked by the Florida atty general's crime division but my attempts to get refunds have gone nowhere on my own so far.
New make easy money idea???
Maybe they are just going to put 50% of your loss into your account and take out 50% for themselves! That's a !00% profit for them! Could this just be another scam? I received a call from them and they already knew so much about who scammed me that I think they got my name and number from the original scammer (Universal Marketing Solutions).
Maybe they are just going to put 50% of your loss into your account and take out 50% for themselves! That's a !00% profit for them! Could this just be another scam? I received a call from them and they already knew so much about who scammed me that I think they got my name and number from the original scammer (Universal Marketing Solutions).
Audit Recovery Solutions
I am happy to report that this company is real and honest.
I got a full refund from VISA to my credit card statement today (11 Jan 2010). I was defrauded by Premiere Timeshare Solutions of Orlando FL this past summer. I hired Audit Recovery Systems and now 5 weeks later I have my refund. I will call Audit Recovery tomorrow and send them their 50% recovery fee. I have learned a lot about being scammed. I was concerned about all of the personal information that I had to give to Audit Recovery Systems to be able to process the contested charge, but they came through. Don't wait too long to work on recovering your money. Apparently the credit card companies hold back up to 25% of the charge from companies like Premiere Time Share Solutions because they have a poor merchant credit card account history; to some degree the credit card companies may be complicit in the fraudulent process by giving merchant accounts out so freely. After some time, the held back money is forwarded to the company--usually 90 days. However, you can still get a refund after that point, but that usually requires the help of a company like Audit Recovery Systems--they seem to be able to find out what the new name on the merchant account is after the first company folds and link the two together and get your refund. Oh, and please do persue the refund because it comes out of the account of the crooks. Hope this helps. TP
PS This time I will turn my Marriott Vail timeshare over to the on site realtor for resale. Please do not become a victim to some advertising agency that wants you to pay up front to sale your timeshare for you.
I am happy to report that this company is real and honest.
I got a full refund from VISA to my credit card statement today (11 Jan 2010). I was defrauded by Premiere Timeshare Solutions of Orlando FL this past summer. I hired Audit Recovery Systems and now 5 weeks later I have my refund. I will call Audit Recovery tomorrow and send them their 50% recovery fee. I have learned a lot about being scammed. I was concerned about all of the personal information that I had to give to Audit Recovery Systems to be able to process the contested charge, but they came through. Don't wait too long to work on recovering your money. Apparently the credit card companies hold back up to 25% of the charge from companies like Premiere Time Share Solutions because they have a poor merchant credit card account history; to some degree the credit card companies may be complicit in the fraudulent process by giving merchant accounts out so freely. After some time, the held back money is forwarded to the company--usually 90 days. However, you can still get a refund after that point, but that usually requires the help of a company like Audit Recovery Systems--they seem to be able to find out what the new name on the merchant account is after the first company folds and link the two together and get your refund. Oh, and please do persue the refund because it comes out of the account of the crooks. Hope this helps. TP
PS This time I will turn my Marriott Vail timeshare over to the on site realtor for resale. Please do not become a victim to some advertising agency that wants you to pay up front to sale your timeshare for you.
Mel
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Why have you only posted 3 times in all - all within this thread? Sounds a bit fishy to me.I am happy to report that this company is real and honest.
I got a full refund from VISA to my credit card statement today (11 Jan 2010). I was defrauded by Premiere Timeshare Solutions of Orlando FL this past summer. I hired Audit Recovery Systems and now 5 weeks later I have my refund. I will call Audit Recovery tomorrow and send them their 50% recovery fee. I have learned a lot about being scammed. I was concerned about all of the personal information that I had to give to Audit Recovery Systems to be able to process the contested charge, but they came through. Don't wait too long to work on recovering your money. Apparently the credit card companies hold back up to 25% of the charge from companies like Premiere Time Share Solutions because they have a poor merchant credit card account history; to some degree the credit card companies may be complicit in the fraudulent process by giving merchant accounts out so freely. After some time, the held back money is forwarded to the company--usually 90 days. However, you can still get a refund after that point, but that usually requires the help of a company like Audit Recovery Systems--they seem to be able to find out what the new name on the merchant account is after the first company folds and link the two together and get your refund. Oh, and please do persue the refund because it comes out of the account of the crooks. Hope this helps. TP
PS This time I will turn my Marriott Vail timeshare over to the on site realtor for resale. Please do not become a victim to some advertising agency that wants you to pay up front to sale your timeshare for you.
A refund has nothing to do with who registers a merchant account with the credit card company. If you you were chanrged fraudulently, the credit card company would return your money, and it becomes THEIR responsibility to track the merchant down.
Further, very few of these claims will be accepted by the credit card companies, because most of the scammers are very careful about what they sell. Just as you find with developer sales, what matters is what is in the printed contract, not what you were told over the phone. If you paid $500 to a company that claimed to have a buyer, the contract probably listed the fee as being for LISTING your unit within their own system, one various websites, or other places - the contract might even expressly state there is no guarantee of a sale. You won't recover those fees, except through a legal process - not through contesting the charges on a credit card. And recovery of those fees won't be in the form of a credit to your credit card account.
Stricky
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Don't take this personally but, we don't believe you. When things are too good to be true, especially in the TS world, they always are.
When you have only posted 3 times all making this company look legit, it seems that there is a chance that you might be from the company itself.
It would be very exciting if this was true. Please scan in your CC statement showing the refund (black out your personal info) and send it to an admin. That would help us all believe you.
Cheers
http://www.ripoffreport.com/questio...-servi/audit-recovery-service-a-r-s-c4578.htm
http://sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.ex...rinc_comp_name=ROTHBERGBARRY&ret_princ_type=R
and they are hiring:
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/sls/1547370334.html
Don't take this personally but, we don't believe you. When things are too good to be true, especially in the TS world, they always are.
When you have only posted 3 times all making this company look legit, it seems that there is a chance that you might be from the company itself.
It would be very exciting if this was true. Please scan in your CC statement showing the refund (black out your personal info) and send it to an admin. That would help us all believe you.
Cheers
http://www.ripoffreport.com/questio...-servi/audit-recovery-service-a-r-s-c4578.htm
http://sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.ex...rinc_comp_name=ROTHBERGBARRY&ret_princ_type=R
and they are hiring:
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/sls/1547370334.html
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Timeshare fraud help
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This is Paul from ARS, please feel free to call us and speak with our investigators at [phone number removed] and we will be happy to answer any questions or email us at [email removed] We are a professional company that prides itself on our integrity and work ethic. Our ultimate goal is to shut down the entire timeshare resale industry and reshape it into a legitmate way to buy and sell resale property.
Thank you for all your inquiries about us, and although we are less then a year old, the founders of our company have spent a lifetime building successful companies in several sectors. Our total quality management ensures that everyone on our team works for you.
Paul
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Stricky
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Paul would you please take the time to explain how your program works here?
[Please contact the poster via private message. - DeniseM Moderator]
[awww shucks... that is no fun -Stricky]
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Hi Paul and welcome to TUG
We have a strict no-advertising rule, so commercial entities are not permitted to post their contact info. in the forums. We welcome participation by professionals, as long as they don't promote their business. It would be a good idea for you to check out the TUG Posting rules for the details.
We have a strict no-advertising rule, so commercial entities are not permitted to post their contact info. in the forums. We welcome participation by professionals, as long as they don't promote their business. It would be a good idea for you to check out the TUG Posting rules for the details.
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Timeshare fraud help
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Response from Audit Recovery Systems
We continually are looking for staff, we have grown tremendously and need as many good people we can manage, train, and develop. It is not a bad thing to hire when the economy needs people working with real positions and real companies. I am sorry you are so skeptical, but we understand that with so many being victimized from these predators it is easy to believe everyone must be mad.
Now if you could take the time and think of all these resale scams and their business model, then take the time and look at our model. It is clear that we are a company that is on your side, on the side of the law, and is righteous in our pursuit to protect and defend our clients.
We don't ask for money upfront, we carefully review your case, and make a determination of whether a credit or refund is possible. We then go after these scams under Federal, State, and credit card guidlines and procedures.
We cannot possibly convince every victim of who's good and who's bad in this market, that is riddled with fraud and deception, but the one's we do have the opportunity to be of assistance to, we do everything we can for you; our customer.
Thank you for your concerns,
Paul, ARS
We continually are looking for staff, we have grown tremendously and need as many good people we can manage, train, and develop. It is not a bad thing to hire when the economy needs people working with real positions and real companies. I am sorry you are so skeptical, but we understand that with so many being victimized from these predators it is easy to believe everyone must be mad.
Now if you could take the time and think of all these resale scams and their business model, then take the time and look at our model. It is clear that we are a company that is on your side, on the side of the law, and is righteous in our pursuit to protect and defend our clients.
We don't ask for money upfront, we carefully review your case, and make a determination of whether a credit or refund is possible. We then go after these scams under Federal, State, and credit card guidlines and procedures.
We cannot possibly convince every victim of who's good and who's bad in this market, that is riddled with fraud and deception, but the one's we do have the opportunity to be of assistance to, we do everything we can for you; our customer.
Thank you for your concerns,
Paul, ARS
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No Disrespect
We work as paid advocate for our customers. I am just trying to reply to the many inquiries into our services. We want nothing more then for these timeshare resale companies owners and operators to be put in prison as we find it absolutely disgusting what they are doing to this sector. When I speak to an 85 year old woman who paid a company 1886.00 having her money promised it would be returned within a week after closing and this was her social security money, it is sickening. This is a daily occurance and although we are not looking to advertise for our services on these boards we appreciate the opportunity to respond when our integrity is called into question. There are many smart individuals on these boards that due their research and due diligence but there are so many victims that it is difficult when our integrity is called into question before you have the opportunity to speak with us and really see who we are. We are not looking to make money from our information, as a matter of fact we do a lot of pro bono work. Like I said I would love to have this industry shut down and be out of a job. In the meantime, everyone should get used to us being around, because we are not along for the ride, we are here to rock the boat and evoke change.
Sincerely,
Paul, ARS
We work as paid advocate for our customers. I am just trying to reply to the many inquiries into our services. We want nothing more then for these timeshare resale companies owners and operators to be put in prison as we find it absolutely disgusting what they are doing to this sector. When I speak to an 85 year old woman who paid a company 1886.00 having her money promised it would be returned within a week after closing and this was her social security money, it is sickening. This is a daily occurance and although we are not looking to advertise for our services on these boards we appreciate the opportunity to respond when our integrity is called into question. There are many smart individuals on these boards that due their research and due diligence but there are so many victims that it is difficult when our integrity is called into question before you have the opportunity to speak with us and really see who we are. We are not looking to make money from our information, as a matter of fact we do a lot of pro bono work. Like I said I would love to have this industry shut down and be out of a job. In the meantime, everyone should get used to us being around, because we are not along for the ride, we are here to rock the boat and evoke change.
Sincerely,
Paul, ARS
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checked Audit Recovery Systems with Florida DBPR
Hi, Just got a call from Audit Recovery Systems. Because of so many calls recently from companies wanting to sell our timeshare, I have become very leary, and decided to check ARS out before I signed anything. Hence I found this site and read the postings. Great and happy to found this. I phoned the Florida BBB and found them registered with no complaints. When I contacted the AUdit Recovery Systems 800 number to get their ten digit phone number, I got a receptionist who did not know their 10 digit number, had to frequently get off the line to inquire with someone else about what reply to make to my question, and was very hesitant to say where their office was located - finally got Bocaratown, Florida as the answer. I contacted also, upon the recommendation of the Southeast Florida BBB, the Florida
Department of Business and Professional Regulations. The person I contacted said that the 50% fee was pretty steep and to be careful about doing business with them. All of the BBB and this department said to be careful about anyone wanting money upfront. Too bad I learned this now -
have about $6000 stuck into trying to sell our timeshare. Am wanting to find closure to selling my timeshare, but am extemely confused what to do next.
Anyone have any answers for me? Help!!
Hi, Just got a call from Audit Recovery Systems. Because of so many calls recently from companies wanting to sell our timeshare, I have become very leary, and decided to check ARS out before I signed anything. Hence I found this site and read the postings. Great and happy to found this. I phoned the Florida BBB and found them registered with no complaints. When I contacted the AUdit Recovery Systems 800 number to get their ten digit phone number, I got a receptionist who did not know their 10 digit number, had to frequently get off the line to inquire with someone else about what reply to make to my question, and was very hesitant to say where their office was located - finally got Bocaratown, Florida as the answer. I contacted also, upon the recommendation of the Southeast Florida BBB, the Florida
Department of Business and Professional Regulations. The person I contacted said that the 50% fee was pretty steep and to be careful about doing business with them. All of the BBB and this department said to be careful about anyone wanting money upfront. Too bad I learned this now -
have about $6000 stuck into trying to sell our timeshare. Am wanting to find closure to selling my timeshare, but am extemely confused what to do next.
Anyone have any answers for me? Help!!
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