Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events

[Rolltydr]

But I digress. This has probably already gone too far off the rails.

On that, we agree. Good night.

 

[Sandi Bo]

Bentley Brook is one of the few resorts in the New England region. We have been there for Thanksgiving for the last 12 years. It is always crowded and they have just remodeled the main buildings. There is no sales there. I see no reason for closing this resort except for corporate greed. The staff is the best Wyndham staff that we have encountered in all of our vacations.

Third generation posting on Facebook early this year. My nephew got married last year and his wife posted this (after they took her parents). 3 generations later, it is still appealing to our 30-somethings. I'm sure this is where many of my Dad's grandkids learned to ski.

I remember at the time thinking how pleased this would make my Dad. This is why he purchased. The memories and relationships (and resort) are irreplaceable.

Maybe they should have a sales presence there? I have never seen any. I remember once my sister saying there was some kind of traveling team there (pretty sure she went, she does those things). I hope we get to see the data / justification for these things. Bentley Brook seems link an anomaly.

 

[CO skier]

For anyone who wants a last hurrah at Bentley Brook, there is a fair amount of weeks available (on sale!) as RCI Extra Vacations, including the last full week of 2025.

 

[HitchHiker71]

For anyone who wants a last hurrah at Bentley Brook, there is a fair amount of weeks available (on sale!) as RCI Extra Vacations, including the last full week of 2025.

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I grabbed up some time the last week of October at BB around my birthday since it's closing - we may or may not actually end up there - we'll firm up our travel plans into the fall season.

 

[hjsweet2002]

We will be at BB for the last week of August, Thanksgiving and Christmas

 

[CO skier]

I grabbed up some time the last week of October at BB around my birthday since it's closing - we may or may not actually end up there - we'll firm up our travel plans into the fall season.

A fall trip through New England has been on my bucket list for a couple decades -- change of colors and lots of lobster on the Maine coast. I got all excited when I saw the availability at Bentley Brook, but there is no way to fit it into this fall. Maybe I will work the reimagined Bentley Brook into my fall 2027 plans.

 

[HitchHiker71]

A fall trip through New England has been on my bucket list for a couple decades -- change of colors and lots of lobster on the Maine coast. I got all excited when I saw the availability at Bentley Brook, but there is no way to fit it into this fall. Maybe I will work the reimagined Bentley Brook into my fall 2027 plans.

Yes, it's a very pretty time of year to be up there during fall foliage. Same with the Poconos - fall foliage season is our favorite time of year to go - especially during the Fall Foliage festival the first few weeks of October - particularly the weekends.

Do it while these resorts are still in the system!

 

[Twenty20]

I think a timeshare, especially a fixed week you have been utilizing for decades, is something that you can't compare to a store or restaurant which has other viable local options.

In the case of Jamestown, them substituting CWA gives them more flexibility to vacation elsewhere, but it absolutely cannot replace their local option that no longer exists. There's no way a fixed week June or July owner at one of the Jamestown resorts is going to be able to book at any of the Newport resorts in June or July. It's just not happening. Similar for people wanting to substitute, say Smuggs for BB, with CWA will you be able to book peak ski season in Jan/Feb? I don't know, maybe, maybe not. A larger number of people are now competing for those same finite number of units at Smuggs because BB doesn't exist.

Can they vacation elsewhere? Sure. Maybe that helps them, maybe it doesn't. It will vary person to person.

But comparing this scenario to a store, restaurant or hotel is not valid. It's just not.

As someone who's been in the Wyndham system for about 17 years, I can think of only a few very rare circumstances where I feel like I got a significantly better value using Club Wyndham points, compared with just renting a vacation condo straight up. Most of the times it always just seemed like a wash. Particularly today with the explosion of VRBO and Airbnb units at almost any destination. If someone wants to go to say Bentley Brook, it looks like you can just rent a condo from the ski resort. A 1 BR condo in peak ski season is $275/night, for example.

 

[Arimaas]

As someone who's been in the Wyndham system for about 17 years, I can think of only a few very rare circumstances where I feel like I got a significantly better value using Club Wyndham points, compared with just renting a vacation condo straight up. Most of the times it always just seemed like a wash. Particularly today with the explosion of VRBO and Airbnb units at almost any destination. If someone wants to go to say Bentley Brook, it looks like you can just rent a condo from the ski resort. A 1 BR condo in peak ski season is $275/night, for example.

I look at it much differenty than you. With my purhcase on the resale market, I paid just about $1500 including all costs. I have about 500k points, and I pay about $7.50/1000 in MFs. I am traveling to New Orleans in Mardi Gras for 112k points in a 1BR for 5 nights. That's $840, or $168/night and there is no extra taxes or fees. There is zero way I could get a hotel room, let alone a 1 BR for that price during Mardi Gras.

If you know how to use your ownership, I am a firm believer that you will come out ahead every time.

 

[CO skier]

Do it while these resorts are still in the system!

There are a ton of RCI Extra Vacations available right now where I could stay for less than half the price of using points to stay at a Club Wyndham resort. 303 units available at just the Vacation Village in the Berkshires (very similar to Bentley Brook) where I could book back-to-back weeks for the entire months of October and November, even Thanksgiving week.

 

[CO skier]

If someone wants to go to say Bentley Brook, it looks like you can just rent a condo from the ski resort. A 1 BR condo in peak ski season is $275/night, for example.

The maintenance fees for a two bedroom Bentley Brook condo during peak ski season in Club Wyndham runs a little over $200/night. Seems like a much better deal to me.

 

[CO skier]

If you know how to use your ownership, I am a firm believer that you will come out ahead every time.

That has been my experience over the past 16 years.

 

[jp10558]

As someone who's been in the Wyndham system for about 17 years, I can think of only a few very rare circumstances where I feel like I got a significantly better value using Club Wyndham points, compared with just renting a vacation condo straight up. Most of the times it always just seemed like a wash. Particularly today with the explosion of VRBO and Airbnb units at almost any destination. If someone wants to go to say Bentley Brook, it looks like you can just rent a condo from the ski resort. A 1 BR condo in peak ski season is $275/night, for example.

Like everyone else - I think you may want to check how you're using your ownership. VRBO and AirB&B barely compete with hotels much of the time price wise, though you do get larger accommodations. The only "more expensive" trip I've been on was La Belle Maison that cost me ~$329 a night for a 2BR, and there was a somewhat cheaper option in AirB&B, but I also don't think AirB&B gave me bellhops to move luggage, or some of the other perks of popcorn on the way in / out and other free snacks based on day.

 

[hjsweet2002]

I don’t want to vacation in a city. I want the mountains or water and peace and quiet

 

[Floridaman76]

I don’t want to vacation in a city. I want the mountains or water and peace and quiet

I agree with you and think that's something that Wyndham might be underestimating here.

There's very few "destination" cities in the United States where there is a draw to stay in the city's urban core. In my opinion.

New York, San Francisco, New Orleans, Washington DC (to a much lesser extent), Chicago, Boston.

I can't think of too many others. And Wyndham has 4 of those places that I mentioned covered.

Most of these locations (excluding DC) the Wyndham units do not have full kitchens, or at least very few of them do, or are just in Presidential units. Reason being is these destination cities, fine dining or at least regional cuisine is part of the draw, so Kitchens are unnecessary. Also younger people tend to not cook as much.

I've said my share about Atlanta. But hotels seem to be king in some of these "lesser" urban markets which WYN may see as growth opportunities. I don't know, maybe eventually they will share their plans with us.

 

[dioxide45]

I agree with you and think that's something that Wyndham might be underestimating here.

There's very few "destination" cities in the United States where there is a draw to stay in the city's urban core. In my opinion.

New York, San Francisco, New Orleans, Washington DC (to a much lesser extent), Chicago, Boston.

I can't think of too many others. And Wyndham has 4 of those places that I mentioned covered.

Most of these locations (excluding DC) the Wyndham units do not have full kitchens, or at least very few of them do, or are just in Presidential units. Reason being is these destination cities, fine dining or at least regional cuisine is part of the draw, so Kitchens are unnecessary. Also younger people tend to not cook as much.

I've said my share about Atlanta. But hotels seem to be king in some of these "lesser" urban markets which WYN may see as growth opportunities. I don't know, maybe eventually they will share their plans with us.

Another problem with urban destinations is they tend to not be yearly vacation destinations for most people. I will go to Nashville or Atlanta, but not every year. I will likely go to Florida beaches every year. People often buy timeshare to go back to the same place every year. I don't think many people are buying in to go to Nashville, New York, San Fransisco or Chicago year after year.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Another problem with urban destinations is they tend to not be yearly vacation destinations for most people. I will go to Nashville or Atlanta, but not every year. I will likely go to Florida beaches every year. People often buy timeshare to go back to the same place every year. I don't think many people are buying in to go to Nashville, New York, San Fransisco or Chicago year after year.

The data shared in the T&L earnings calls indicates that the younger generations do not want to go to the same place every year for vacations, they want variety on a persistent basis. The world is smaller these days, so traveling to varied destinations is more feasible. That is why T&L is changing their strategies - to better meet the requirements of the younger generations per the data they are using to make these business decisions.

 

[Floridaman76]

The data shared in the T&L earnings calls indicates that the younger generations do not want to go to the same place every year for vacations, they want variety on a persistent basis. The world is smaller these days, so traveling to varied destinations is more feasible. That is why T&L is changing their strategies - to better meet the requirements of the younger generations per the data they are using to make these business decisions.

Which makes removing "dots on the map" an even more questionable move.

Especially with no new "dots on the map" on the radar for Club Wyndham (i'm not talking about the theoretical Sports Illustrated thing, which we may not even have access to).

 

[jp10558]

Another problem with urban destinations is they tend to not be yearly vacation destinations for most people. I will go to Nashville or Atlanta, but not every year. I will likely go to Florida beaches every year. People often buy timeshare to go back to the same place every year. I don't think many people are buying in to go to Nashville, New York, San Fransisco or Chicago year after year.

IDK if that's true. I mean, yes I believe YOU want to go to FL beaches every year, but I pre-covid went to NYC every year just before Christmas for 4 or 5 years. I'd love to be able to afford to go to London similarly - their Christmas setup puts NYC to shame. Then there's the 3-4 day or more conventions - NYC had HOPE, ComicCon and I'm sure others I know nothing about. Philadelphia has their flower show. It's not just Las Vegas. And some of these I can see going every other year or more if you had it easy to plan out - though again, that would be more like a fixed week which I'm sure no company wants to do now. But I can still see the appeal for many people.

I really like a mix of nature and city, and I also think most FL beaches are already served by TS. T&L is probably right to look at new markets if they want to grow (though adding a third Nashville location seems to me like a continuation of the odd penchant of TS systems to cluster.). I don't personally think "capital light" is the right way to go however. That said every major system seems to be in buy not build mode, so what do I know?

 

[bnoble]

People often buy timeshare to go back to the same place every year.

I'm not sure that is as true of the larger mini-systems, and I don't think it is just younger generations that want more variety.

 

[Mr. Phil]

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** IMPORTANT **

Official Wyndham Statement as of 7-15-2025: https://clubwyndham.wyndhamdestinations.com/us/en/resorts/resort-news/2025/important-resorts-update

Please note with regard to any official public statement from Wyndham, that they must follow a plethora of rules and regulations regarding official/legal notifications for the impacted HOAs/resorts, including the Club Wyndham bylaws, the HOA bylaws, and state/county/township/local laws, etc., all of which are different for each impacted resort. It is a complex process. Those who are expressing frustration as to why Wyndham has not yet disclosed anything officially, please recognize that because there are explicit disclosure laws and processes that must be followed. Wyndham will likely provide a more detailed official statement after all required notifications have been completed. The next notification may or may not provide an explicit list of impacted resorts.

Below is a table we have built to track both CONFIRMED and POSSIBLE impacted resorts. Please note ANY resort marked as "NO" in the CONFIRMED column is merely POSSIBLE, but we have NO confirmation either way, just rumors at this time. Resorts listed as "PARTIAL" indicate we have backchannel information that is deemed reliable yet needs to be further confirmed via an official HOA BOD communication. The DISPOSITION column indicates how the resort is reportedly going to be handled after it is removed from the Club Wyndham system effective 12/31/2025. The values for this column are: TBD (To-Be-Determined), COMPLETE EXIT - meaning Wyndham owns the entirety of the resort and a complete exit is planned - and Wyndham is likely selling off the entire resort), WYNDHAM EXIT - meaning Wyndham does not own the entire resort, but it is exiting this resort for it's part - likely via a sale of the real estate owned. CONSOLIDATION - Wyndham is downsizing the amount of inventory at the resort - likely via eliminating one of multiple HOAs - but is not exiting the resort in entirety.

For comparison's sake, the CWA MFs are $8.13/k. Given the Wyndham missive indicates a CWA points swap will be offered, please use this as a measuring stick against the RESORT UDI MF documented below for the impacted resort, or if you own a converted fixed week, use your specific converted weeks contract $/k rate for comparison.

We will update this chart when we receive additional information over the coming days and weeks:

#	RESORT NAME	CONFIRMED?	CONFIRMATION SOURCE	DISPOSITION	RESORT UDI MF	LEGACY RESORT?	CWA RESORT?	NOTES
1	Club Wyndham Fairfield Glade (TN)	YES	Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events I'm probably being dense in how I'm reading this sentence, but are you defining "owners" as "People who own anywhere in the Wyndham system including CWA," or only as "people who own at that specific resort?" Because if it's the latter, I'd think a resort that lots of CWA owners stay at and lots... tugbbs.com	TBD	$6.34/k	YES	YES	Confirmed via a public newspaper article: https://www.crossville-chronicle.co...cle_a748ba2a-1f72-476e-b0a3-be55354548e0.html
2	Club Wyndham Orlando International (FL)	YES	Official HOA BOD vote on chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings scheduled for 8/5/2025 in preparation for resort sale.	COMPLETE EXIT - RESORT SALE	$7.16/k (2024)	YES	YES
3	Club Wyndham Patriot's Place (VA)	PARTIAL	Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from the local resort - awaiting official public confirmation	TBD	~9.02/k (estimated)	YES	YES
4	Club Wyndham Bentley Brook (MA)	PARTIAL	Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from the local resort - awaiting official public confirmation		$9.10/k	YES	NO
5	Club Wyndham Overlook (RI)	PARTIAL	Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from Wyndham corporate - awaiting official public confirmation	TBD	TBD	YES	YES
6	Club Wyndham Bay Voyage (RI)	PARTIAL	Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from Wyndham corporate - awaiting official public confirmation	TBD	TBD	YES	YES
7	Club Wyndham Shawnee (PA)	PARTIAL	Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from Wyndham corporate - awaiting official public confirmation	WYNDHAM EXIT	Varies by HOA	YES	YES	It is possible this will be a downsize and not entirely removed - however details are still pending
8	Club Wyndham Skyline Tower (NJ)	PARTIAL	Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from the local resort - awaiting official public confirmation	TBD	$7.65/k (2024)	YES	YES
9	Club Wyndham Fairfield Bay (AR)	PARTIAL	Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from the local resort - awaiting official public confirmation	TBD	$9.88/k	YES	YES
11	Club Wyndham Branson at the Falls	PARTIAL	Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from Wyndham corporate - awaiting official public confirmation	CONSOLIDATION	TBD	YES	YES	This is a consolidation - one of the three HOAs within Branson is being impacted - only the Falls HOA specifically.
12	Club Wyndham Star Island (FL)	PARTIAL	Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from Wyndham corporate - awaiting official public confirmation	CONSOLIDATION	~$9.02/k (estimated)	YES	YES
14	Club Wyndham Ocean Ridge (Edisto) (SC)	PARTIAL	Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from Wyndham corporate - awaiting official public confirmation	CONSOLIDATION	Varies by phase/HOA	YES	YES	A subset of the HOAs is rumored to be impacted
	Club Wyndham Fairfield Mountains (NC)	NO	None	TBD	TBD	YES	YES

What does "Legacy Resort" mean? It means this resort was one of the original Fairfield resorts from way back when. Below are screenshots of the legacy resorts from a very old Fairfield members directory from way back when. Please note we are NOT saying all of the resorts in the below screenshots are part of this action, we're only tracking whether or not the resorts in the table above are or are not part of this category as some TUGGERs are curious about this data point.

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The Fairfield Mountains Lake Lure has been officially informed they will close December 31st. Currently in speculative negotiations to have Capital Vacations take it over.

 

[Lisa P]

The Fairfield Mountains Lake Lure has been officially informed they will close December 31st. Currently in speculative negotiations to have Capital Vacations take it over.

This (turning it all over to Capital Vacations) would be horrible for the Lake Lure owners. Capital Vacations manages our Fairfield Harbour (Sandcastle Cove section) and they've offered us a "relinquishment opportunity" that would cost us $2,500. This is a $480 legal fee plus twice our annual maintenance fee. Capital also has a bad reputation for poor maintenance, raising maintenance fees, and adding hefty assessments. Hopefully, Wyndham will offer the Lake Lure owners the options to either convert their ownership to CWA points or to walk away at no cost to the owner.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Which makes removing "dots on the map" an even more questionable move.

Especially with no new "dots on the map" on the radar for Club Wyndham (i'm not talking about the theoretical Sports Illustrated thing, which we may not even have access to).

Not if those dots are in places with aging infrastructure and older units near end of life that have major special assessments on the horizon that the older owners have no interest in funding. There are new dots coming, just because we don't yet know where they are, doesn't mean they aren't coming, it simply means they haven't been announced for various legitimate reasons. I suspect the SI resorts will be set up in a manner similar to the MVC resorts - to encourage new and existing owners to make developer purchases to gain access.

 

[HitchHiker71]

The Fairfield Mountains Lake Lure has been officially informed they will close December 31st. Currently in speculative negotiations to have Capital Vacations take it over.

Chart updated - thanks for the info!

 

[jp10558]

I suspect the SI resorts will be set up in a manner similar to the MVC resorts - to encourage new and existing owners to make developer purchases to gain access.

Sadly I think you're likely right - it actually helps their retail sales by basically forcing retail sales if people want access.