Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events

[Floridaman76]

Somebody mentioned the "Wyndham Orlando Resort", which is not part of the timeshare system, but was part of the Wyndham hotel chain. I never stayed there in a room but went to a couple conventions held at the "resort". They had pretty elaborate and large convention space. There were a couple good restaurants on the grounds, including Coopers Hawk, which is fine dining / wine bar chain.

It closed in 2023 or 2024 and has been mostly torn down, the rest of it will be gone soon. I don't know the story behind that. But it was not part of the timeshare system.

My wife has friends in Port Orange (Daytona), so Orlando is a halfway drive for both of us, we occasionally meet at the Coopers Hawk there, and last time I was there (February) I noticed the Wyndham was being demolished.

 

[Floridaman76]

I agree that the reviews look like two different properties, but TripAdvisor has Del Verde Way as the address. Perhaps TripAdvisor didn't know that there were two Wyndhams close together, I didn't.

Some of the photos show a two story building, but my 2013-2014 Member's Directory shows a 3 story building. I also noticed that it was built in 1982.
In Florida, buildings 3 stories and higher have to undergo a 40 year inspection. Star Island is also 3 stories. Perhaps this is another consideration in making the decision to close those two.

Of course this doesn't apply to resorts in other states, but each might have some other unfavorable attributes not known to us.

Star Island is VERY ecclectic and there are many different building types and sizes. It's a very large resort built over many years by different developers. The last time I stayed there, I stayed in building 19, which was like 12 stories tall, maybe more. We were on the 7th floor. I don't know which buildings Wyndham has units in. Every time we have stayed there it was in non-Wyndham owned units. They were VERY different, but also recently renovated and well kept. Different little nuances like fake flowers, interesting furniture choices and color palates. We liked it for what it was. It's comprable to Cypress Palms but i've heard since you have no idea what kind of unit you might get, it's luck of the draw. I know some of the buildings do not have elevators.

Maybe the Wyndham owned units are in the smaller 2-3 story buildings

Also, I don't know for sure, but at Orlando International, I believe there are only units on the first and second floors. It looks like that's not the case, but I think it is.

 

[Roger830]

Star Island is VERY ecclectic and there are many different building types and sizes. It's a very large resort built over many years by different developers. The last time I stayed there, I stayed in building 19, which was like 12 stories tall, maybe more. We were on the 7th floor. I don't know which buildings Wyndham has units in. Every time we have stayed there it was in non-Wyndham owned units. They were VERY different, but also recently renovated and well kept. Different little nuances like fake flowers, interesting furniture choices and color palates. We liked it for what it was. It's comprable to Cypress Palms but i've heard since you have no idea what kind of unit you might get, it's luck of the draw. I know some of the buildings do not have elevators.

Maybe the Wyndham owned units are in the smaller 2-3 story buildings

Also, I don't know for sure, but at Orlando International, I believe there are only units on the first and second floors. It looks like that's not the case, but I think it is.

We also stayed at Star Island once in a 2-bed newer building in the rear. it was with a certificate from II.

The two directories that I have show 3 story buildings on a lake. When we were there I thought that those might be Wyndham's near the front of the resort close to the big pool. Years ago on tug there was talk that two brothers developed the resort and one sold to Wyndham. With the other resorts in the area that Wyndham has they might not see need for the old units.

I don't understand why 3 story buildings are being treated as high rises. This has been mentioned in minutes at Hollwood Sands where 1 of 3 buildings is 3 stories. There are postcards from about the 1960 era showing the building. We're in a 2 story building but in could be a problem for us.

 

[WinniWoman]

What’s the bottom
line here? What resorts is Wyndham closing or pulling out of? The thread is so long I couldn’t keep up.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

What’s the bottom
line here? What resorts is Wyndham closing or pulling out of? The thread is so long I couldn’t keep up.

Go to the first post. The list of what we know so far is summarized there.

 

[chapjim]

Somebody mentioned the "Wyndham Orlando Resort", which is not part of the timeshare system, but was part of the Wyndham hotel chain. I never stayed there in a room but went to a couple conventions held at the "resort". They had pretty elaborate and large convention space. There were a couple good restaurants on the grounds, including Coopers Hawk, which is fine dining / wine bar chain.

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It closed in 2023 or 2024 and has been mostly torn down, the rest of it will be gone soon. I don't know the story behind that. But it was not part of the timeshare system.

My wife has friends in Port Orange (Daytona), so Orlando is a halfway drive for both of us, we occasionally meet at the Coopers Hawk there, and last time I was there (February) I noticed the Wyndham was being demolished.

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Wow! Google Maps needs to update its imagery of this area. It still shows the pools and hotel residential buildings.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Go to the first post. The list of what we know so far is summarized there.

I changed the post title to indicate the dedicated chart/tracker is in the first post so folks will know where to look for future reference.


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[WinniWoman]

Go to the first post. The list of what we know so far is summarized there.

Oh ok. I was under the impression those weren’t definite.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Oh ok. I was under the impression those weren’t definite.

There is a column that clearly indicates confirmation status along with the adjacent column that indicates confirmation sourc(es).


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[Fido Chuckwagon]

Oh ok. I was under the impression those weren’t definite.

They’re not definite (except for the first one) but they’re updated by @HitchHiker71 with basically everything we know in this thread.

Even though not definite, most of them are extremely likely based on the information we currently have.

 

[dioxide45]

They’re not definite (except for the first one) but they’re updated by @HitchHiker71 with basically everything we know in this thread.

Even though not definite, most of them are extremely likely based on the information we currently have.

It would seem based on past comments here that Orlando International is about as definite as it could get. The plan is to close, straight from the HOA BOD itself.

 

[Edsolomon]

Just an update regarding Orlando International Resort (OIRC). I just received a ballot asking owners to approve the Bankruptcy and sale of the property. Not a lot of details, but does mention allowing the Board of Directors to hire an attorney to handle the Bankruptcy for the primary purpose of pursuing a sale of the entire property. This will allow the entire property to be sold as free and clear of creditors and interval owners. Proceeds, including any funds in accounts, minus fees and costs of sale, liens and claims would be distributed on a pro rata distribution to interval owners.

Wondering if any of the other properties received such a notice? This comes as a surprise to me.....bankruptcy? Wonder would prompted this, and if the liabilities will wipe out any such "proceeds". Also, what happens to my Club Wyndham affiliation. Does it all go up in smoke?
Ed

 

[dioxide45]

Just an update regarding Orlando International Resort (OIRC). I just received a ballot asking owners to approve the Bankruptcy and sale of the property. Not a lot of details, but does mention allowing the Board of Directors to hire an attorney to handle the Bankruptcy for the primary purpose of pursuing a sale of the entire property. This will allow the entire property to be sold as free and clear of creditors and interval owners. Proceeds, including any funds in accounts, minus fees and costs of sale, liens and claims would be distributed on a pro rata distribution to interval owners.

Wondering if any of the other properties received such a notice? This comes as a surprise to me.....bankruptcy? Wonder would prompted this, and if the liabilities will wipe out any such "proceeds". Also, what happens to my Club Wyndham affiliation. Does it all go up in smoke?
Ed

If the property is sold, there is no property left to be affiliated with Club Wyndham. You may be offered the ability to swap for CWA, but not 100% sure that option will be there. Just have to wait and see.

 

[chapjim]

It would seem based on past comments here that Orlando International is about as definite as it could get. The plan is to close, straight from the HOA BOD itself.

Needs owner approval first. Then, favorable action from the Bankruptcy Court.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Needs owner approval first. Then, favorable action from the Bankruptcy Court.

And what happens to owners who own deeded/ converted weeks at Orlando International? They lose out and some other company buys it and turns it into apartments without paying current owners a dime?

As some of these resorts are closing completely, you know that Wyndham will have gained some dirty money on the owners' losses.

 

[Double U]

What’s the bottom
line here? What resorts is Wyndham closing or pulling out of? The thread is so long I couldn’t keep up.

Good point. What's the best way to handle that? Some are going to be affected in ownership, some will have concerns about losing a property they love to trade into., etc. I've seen some great posts with good information on here (referring to other topics, or posts of yesteryear), but it's difficult to locate things, even using search, because the valuable information wound up posted deeply within a completely unrelated thread. When owners start to Google about what's happening, some will come to TUG. And they are going to be asking the same questions over, and over, and over again. As they should. How do you best manage that? Just a thought here, but can there be sub-threads? A few things like "why is my resort closing? What happens to my points? What about my existing reservations? A place where they can be redirected regarding the concern they have? Keep a master thread and then redirect from it where necessary. Maybe a bad idea and will only confuse things more?

I fully expect Wyndham will address these issues completely in any announcement. But people don't take the time to read, reflect, understand. Hard as I try to do that, I fail at it myself sometimes! But those owners are going to have the same emotional shock as we had.

Wyndham is prepared for this. Is TUG?

 

[chapjim]

And what happens to owners who own deeded/ converted weeks at Orlando International? They lose out and some other company buys it and turns it into apartments without paying current owners a dime?

As some of these resorts are closing completely, you know that Wyndham will have gained some dirty money on the owners' losses.

Depends on what's left, if anything, after the sale is complete and all expenses paid.

That presumes that a sale will be approved by the owners, which is not a given.

 

[chapjim]

Good point. What's the best way to handle that? Some are going to be affected in ownership, some will have concerns about losing a property they love to trade into., etc. I've seen some great posts with good information on here (referring to other topics, or posts of yesteryear), but it's difficult to locate things, even using search, because the valuable information wound up posted deeply within a completely unrelated thread. When owners start to Google about what's happening, some will come to TUG. And they are going to be asking the same questions over, and over, and over again. As they should. How do you best manage that? Just a thought here, but can there be sub-threads? A few things like "why is my resort closing? What happens to my points? What about my existing reservations? A place where they can be redirected regarding the concern they have? Keep a master thread and then redirect from it where necessary. Maybe a bad idea and will only confuse things more?

I fully expect Wyndham will address these issues completely in any announcement. But people don't take the time to read, reflect, understand. Hard as I try to do that, I fail at it myself sometimes! But those owners are going to have the same emotional shock as we had.

Wyndham is prepared for this. Is TUG?

Don't underestimate TUG.

Don't underestimate Wyndham's ability to eff things up.

 

[Double U]

Don't underestimate TUG.

Don't underestimate Wyndham's ability to eff things up.

I completely expect that. It always is. Good point to share

Edit to add: sage advice to plan ahead!

 

[Double U]

And what happens to owners who own deeded/ converted weeks at Orlando International? They lose out and some other company buys it and turns it into apartments without paying current owners a dime?

As some of these resorts are closing completely, you know that Wyndham will have gained some dirty money on the owners' losses.

I've read about your struggle. And you have helped with some very difficult topics. Someone I believe refers to it as monopoly money. We should know that. We do it everyday.

A salesman sells me an expensive piece of Jewelry. I later find out it really isn't pure gold. They lied, I overpaid, and I learned it later. But I really like it. After all, I did fall in love with it. So I wear it and enjoy it. Just how I deal with it.

Edit to add: even if it was a fair deal, I know i will never get out of it what I paid for it. We do this everyday

 

[dioxide45]

Needs owner approval first. Then, favorable action from the Bankruptcy Court.

True, but we would expect some type of owner approval at Fairfield Glade too.

 

[Floridaman76]

I'm not a lawyer but I also don't understand the bankruptcy court angle. On the surface it seems like it's a potential end around run to not need owner approval, or freeze them out of any sort of proceeds.

This really speaks volumes to the complete lack of tranparency on Wyndham's part here.

The optics on this absolutely suck. And given how they are potentially treating owners here, how could anyone eithically sell the product in good faith. Especially with all of the "dots on the map" and "lock in your vacation price forever" and even "we still have our original location we opened in the 70's". I literally heard that at one of the updates within the last 2 years. Using stability and longevity as a benefit.

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[CO skier]

It would seem based on past comments here that Orlando International is about as definite as it could get. The plan is to close, straight from the HOA BOD itself.

The page 1 chart "CONFIRMED?" status could/should be "upgraded" to reflect this; something like "Bankruptcy vote August 5, 2025"

 

[dioxide45]

I'm not a lawyer but I also don't understand the bankruptcy court angle. On the surface it seems like it's a potential end around run to not need owner approval, or freeze them out of any sort of proceeds.

This really speaks volumes to the complete lack of tranparency on Wyndham's part here.

The optics on this absolutely suck. And given how they are potentially treating owners here, how could anyone eithically sell the product in good faith. Especially with all of the "dots on the map" and "lock in your vacation price forever" and even "we still have our original location we opened in the 70's". I literally heard that at one of the updates within the last 2 years. Using stability and longevity as a benefit.

I think we would have to see the condominium governing documents. We don't know what it would take to close the property and sell it. Is the threshold of owner votes too high? Is there some provision in there that would prevent any type of owner vote to even do such a thing? What do Florida statues have to say about votes to terminate the timeshare plan? I couldn't find anything in a quick cursory check.

As for transparency by Wyndham. Wyndham doesn't necessarily owe anything to the property owners. It is up to the HOA BOD to provide the necessary communication to the owners.

 

[Floridaman76]

I think we would have to see the condominium governing documents. We don't know what it would take to close the property and sell it. Is the threshold of owner votes too high? Is there some provision in there that would prevent any type of owner vote to even do such a thing? What do Florida statues have to say about votes to terminate the timeshare plan? I couldn't find anything in a quick cursory check.

As for transparency by Wyndham. Wyndham doesn't necessarily owe anything to the property owners. It is up to the HOA BOD to provide the necessary communication to the owners.

Except that WYN controls most of the HOA's through majority voting rights in all likelihood. So, by proxy, it IS Wyndham calling the shots, making the call, but perhaps hiding behind a board of some kind, which they control,. splitting hairs really in practice.

Is that transparency? Like I said, the optics on this are not great.