FYI- Bogus Buyer.

[Passepartout]

I have had my Villas of Sedona TS Listed in the TUG Marketplace for (too long). A couple of days ago I got a full price offer to buy it. Well, the 'buyer askes what my asking price was- while it was clearly in the ad. I responded with the number, and told them I'd happily answer any questions. The person's email; was suspicious.

A couple hours later, I got an email from another person- another strange email address.

The first respondent, one Gloria Fisher emailed that she was fine with the price and that she would pay. Just send my name, address, phone number and the check would be forthcoming. Right. . So I asked how she was going to pay, and how she wanted to transfer the deed. She said her attorney would send me a cashier's check. Just send the deed and they'd transfer it! I suggested using LT Transfers and that they would charge a reasonable fee and (for a price, they'd escrow the funds.

She has disappeared. No surprise, but if this name comes up or Mr. Paul Wolseley or the domain name of 'secretary.net' or 'financier.com', beware.

Jim

 

[TUGBrian]

if you foward me the emails, i can block them from sending future messages in the marketplace.

 

[Pennytx]

I have had my Villas of Sedona TS Listed in the TUG Marketplace for (too long). A couple of days ago I got a full price offer to buy it. Well, the 'buyer askes wat my asking price was- while it was clearly in the ad. I responded with the number, and dold them I'd happily answer any questions. The person's email; was suspicious.

A couple hours later, I got an email from another person- another strange email address.

The first respondent, one Gloria Fisher emailed that she was fine with the price and that she would pay. Just send my name, address, phone number ant the check would be forthcoming. Right. . So I asked how she was going to pay, and how she wanted to transfer the deed. She said her attorney would send me a cashier's check. Just send the deed and they'd transfer it! I suggested using LT Transfers and that they would charge a reasonable fee and (for a price, they'd escrow the funds.

She has disappeared. No surprise, but if this name comes up or Mr. Paul Wolseley or the domain name of 'secretary.net' or 'financier.com', beware.

Jim

So sorry that sucks

 

[Pennytx]

Thank you for telling us

 

[Passepartout]

if you foward me the emails, i can block them from sending future messages in the marketplace.

Thanks. This is the 'buyer', 'Gloria Fisher' secbeneficiary@secretary.net and I don't know who this is, but maybe the 'attorney'? "Mr. Paul Wolseley" <theboardofdirectors@financier.com>

I should say that I forwarded LT Transfers URL and asked that they fill in the 'buyers' questionnaire, and that I'd happily do my part and send (to LTT) a current deed so we could proceed. Then it was crickets.

Jim

 

[chapjim]

Thanks. This is the 'buyer', 'Gloria Fisher' secbeneficiary@secretary.net ant I don't know who this is, but maybe the 'attorney'? "Mr. Paul Wolseley" <theboardofdirectors@financier.com>

I should say that I forwarded LT Transfers URL and asked that they fill in the 'buyers' questionnaire, and that I'd happily do my part and send (to LTT) a current deed so we could proceed. Then it was crickets.

Jim

Methinks that you drove the transaction to the point where they didn't have an opportunity to come in with a cash requirement. Maybe the closing company?

 

[zentraveler]

She said her attorney would send me a cashier's check. Just send the deed and they'd transfer it!

Really?? I truly hope they don't swindle too many naive people.

 

[RX8]

Thank you for the warning. Sorry that the fish you finally had hooked turned out to be a decaying log. Hopefully the next time will be a legit catch.

Both secretary.net and financier.com are mentioned as possible scams.

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[davidvel]

Thank you for the warning. Sorry that the fish you finally had hooked turned out to be a decaying log. Hopefully the next time will be a legit catch.

Both secretary.net and financier.com are mentioned as possible scams.

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Both domains are registered with the same anonymous registrar.

What would be the purpose of stealing a deed? Seems impossible to get away with. Likely the "lawyer" would have come up with some fee to pay to close the deal, as most scams do.

 

[Passepartout]

Out of the blue, SHE'S BAAAACK. Email today, she wants to send me payment. I respond to send to me c/o my attorney and her PO box. She responds right away that her 'logistics' won't deliver to PO boxes. I told her to use USPS. If this falls through, it's no loss. I suspect she's using a translator and can be anywhere. She needs an Arizona TS like a fish needs a bicycle.

 

[TravelJoy]

Thanks. This is the 'buyer', 'Gloria Fisher' secbeneficiary@secretary.net and I don't know who this is, but maybe the 'attorney'? "Mr. Paul Wolseley" <theboardofdirectors@financier.com>

I should say that I forwarded LT Transfers URL and asked that they fill in the 'buyers' questionnaire, and that I'd happily do my part and send (to LTT) a current deed so we could proceed. Then it was crickets.

Jim

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[TUGBrian]

assuming they reached out to you directly vs thru your listing again? ive blocked the emails reported from sending messages in the marketplace.

 

[davidvel]

Out of the blue, SHE'S BAAAACK. Email today, she wants to send me payment. I respond to send to me c/o my attorney and her PO box. She responds right away that her 'logistics' won't deliver to PO boxes. I told her to use USPS. If this falls through, it's no loss. I suspect she's using a translator and can be anywhere. She needs an Arizona TS like a fish needs a bicycle.

Sounds like classic overpayment scam. Will send you 150-200% of your price, then claim error and ask you to send difference, then "cashier" check will bounce. This is 100% a scam somehow.

 

[Passepartout]

assuming they reached out to you directly vs thru your listing again? ive blocked the emails reported from sending messages in the marketplace.

Yes. They have my email address. (which I'm on the verge of blocking) It was only 'her' initial contact that came via TUG. I agree with @davidvel that it's the ol' overpayment scam. So far, though they haven't committed any infraction that would warrant turning them over to the FBI, but if they do, I will.

 

[Mjasp]

When you reply to a marketplace ad, does your TUG User name appear or only your email address?
Meaning if I sent a message to a Marketplace ad, would MJASP appear and my email address or just my email address?

 

[Passepartout]

When you reply to a marketplace ad, does your TUG User name appear or only your email address?
Meaning if I sent a message to a Marketplace ad, would MJASP appear and my email address or just my email address?

TUGBrian may correct me, but iirc, the respondent only gets a link (not a username or email) that will deliver their message to the Marketplace poster. Then it's up to the recipient to determine if they want to respond directly or continue to 'filter' the correspondence through TUG.

 

[TUGBrian]

When you reply to a marketplace ad, does your TUG User name appear or only your email address?
Meaning if I sent a message to a Marketplace ad, would MJASP appear and my email address or just my email address?

sending a message thru a listing will provide whatever contact details you provide when you send the message. anyone can send a message, its not limited to just TUG members.

marketplace listings will not display or provide a TUG members email address to a 3rd party. as mentioned below only when you choose to reply to a message (via email) will your email be shared with the person who sent the message.

 

[RLS50]

FYI...

I got hit by "Glorious Gloria" as well.

$3,500 listing on TUG. Signed Sales Agreement and sent to LT Transfers, who responded back with their closing / transfer fees. Gloria sent me an email yesterday saying she (or he...who knows) wanted to send full payment and the LT Transfers fees to me overnight delivery.

Got a FedEx check today for $9,873.80. Sent email to Gloria confirming check received and amount.

Sure enough, as expected, got this email back...

Good Afternoon,

Yes that's the check. Proceed with the deposition of the check, once you confirm the fund in your account. Take out the cost of the unit and the LT transfer fee from the $9,773.80. The rest of the fund is meant for the families expenses. I believe you will be kind enough to send the rest of the fund as I will be instruct you later today.

Regards

Gloria Fisher

My (sarcastic) response back...

Gloria,

Unfortunately, I am not able to cash this check. I can shred it or send it back to an address you provide.

I am not sure what that correct address would be since the address on the Sales Agreement is Louisiana, the FedEx originated from Indianapolis, and the check is from the Las Vegas Philharmonic out of Nevada State Bank.

If you want to send me another check for the correct amount, once I confirm it clears, we can proceed from there.

Thank you,

Total scammer out there surfing TUG listings...

secbeneficiary@secretary.net
Gloria Fisher

 

[Passepartout]

FYI...

I got hit by "Glorious Gloria" as well.

$3,500 listing on TUG. Signed Sales Agreement and sent to LT Transfers, who responded back with their closing / transfer fees. Gloria sent me an email yesterday saying she (or he...who knows) wanted to send full payment and the LT Transfers fees to me overnight delivery.

Got a FedEx check today for $9,873.80. Sent email to Gloria confirming check received and amount.

Sure enough, as expected, got this email back...



My (sarcastic) response back...




Total scammer out there surfing TUG listings...

secbeneficiary@secretary.net
Gloria Fisher

Yep. That's 'her' M.O. Since I saw through the scam earlier on, I declined giving 'her' my street address, and required she use USPS (thereby qualifying for Mail Fraud and triggering FBI interest).

'She' or whoever they are, have not been back to me.

Good Riddance.

Jim

 

[RLS50]

Recent reply from "Glorious Gloria"...

I got you. But why can't you just proceed with the deposition with the check at hand now. After the check cleared your bank account. You can deduct the $3650 plus the compensation of $200 am giving you for any inconveniences this might cause you out of the actual amount on the check. And also take $200 for your wife too.

Returning the check now is another delay again. And I want us to seal this unit Sales once all. My kids were already looking forward to get to the units.

With trust and understanding

Regards

Gloria Fisher

I will say it's interesting that the broken English and extremely poor grammar wasn't really noticeable in the initial correspondence leading up to the Sales Agreement. Now it has become atrocious.

 

[dioxide45]

Yep. That's 'her' M.O. Since I saw through the scam earlier on, I declined giving 'her' my street address, and required she use USPS (thereby qualifying for Mail Fraud and triggering FBI interest).

'She' or whoever they are, have not been back to me.

Good Riddance.

im

Wouldn't she need your street address to use USPS? Unless you have a PO box?

 

[Passepartout]

Unless you have a PO box?

BINGO!

 

[dioxide45]

BINGO!

How did "she" initially want to send the check if not via USPS?

 

[TUGBrian]

i show this email is still banned from the marketplace, did they contact you outside of it?

 

[Passepartout]

How did "she" initially want to send the check if not via USPS?

'Courier" Like FedEx. I had provided a P.O Box and she said her 'courier' couldn't use it.