USING DC POINTS TO STAY AT HYATT AND WESTIN RESORTS

[gln60]

Hi all..is it possible to use DC Points to stay at Hyatt and Westin properties..if so..how does one go about booking?…thanks in advance

 

[GregT]

Not directly at this time. You could use DC points to trade through Interval International, but I’m sure you are looking for a direct booking method, which does not exist yet.

We doubt that Hyatt will ever be directly bookable but suspect Westin will, and we’ve been waiting for a mechanism to be announced. Stay tuned....

Best,

Greg

 

[Pamplemousse]

Hi all..is it possible to use DC Points to stay at Hyatt and Westin properties..if so..how does one go about booking?…thanks in advance

If you book Vistana/Sheraton/Westin using your DC points on II there is no exchange fee.

 

[gln60]

I found the the area on my units to do DC Points exchanges on the II site..I didn’t realize that you can exchange into any resort that was available using points..the points needed seemed a little steep for non Marriot units...IMO…I can get better Marriot units for the same price on the MVC site…best use may be if I have expiring DC Points, which has never happened in the 8 years I have owned DC Points...thanks for the info..greatly appreciated.

 

[Pamplemousse]

I found the the area on my units to do DC Points exchanges on the II site..I didn’t realize that you can exchange into any resort that was available using points..the points needed seemed a little steep for non Marriot units...IMO…I can get better Marriot units for the same price on the MVC site…best use may be if I have expiring DC Points, which has never happened in the 8 years I have owned DC Points...thanks for the info..greatly appreciated.

Yes you can use the DC points to exchange into non MVC units on II. I was told ( pre pandemic) that the II and MVCI computer systems aren’t linked so II doesn’t know how many points you have and MVCI needs to confirm.
If you have expiring points having MVCI convert into a week and deposit into II extends expiry- you have 2 years to use the week and it exchanges just like any other week except can’t exchange for MVCI. Using the week may be a better value .

 

[Bill4728]

The salesman at the last tour we went on ( May ) said that in the first quarter of 2022, MVC owners will be able to see and reserve Westin/Vistana weeks on the MVC site using your MVC pts.

We'll See

 

[gln60]

The salesman at the last tour we went on ( May ) said that in the first quarter of 2022, MVC owners will be able to see and reserve Westin/Vistana weeks on the MVC site using your MVC pts.

We'll See

Hopefully that will happen..it would make the process easier

 

[rickandcindy23]

I don't want that at all. When and if that happens, I go to DC in a big way. I may have to change everything we are doing.

 

[SueDonJ]

I don't want that at all. When and if that happens, I go to DC in a big way. I may have to change everything we are doing.

I'd guess that if that happens it will function through the DC, with Vistana owners only able to participate in the Destination Club if they enroll their existing ownerships into the DC. They'd then become members of the Destination Club Exchange Company (which suffers no legal constraints to opening up membership to non-Marriott owners/members, and no legal constraints that limit the DC Exchange Company to only Marriott-branded properties.)

Interesting times, waiting to see if/how Marriott integrates all of the timeshares that now come under the Marriott Vacations Worldwide umbrella.

 

[dougp26364]

The salesman at the last tour we went on ( May ) said that in the first quarter of 2022, MVC owners will be able to see and reserve Westin/Vistana weeks on the MVC site using your MVC pts.

We'll See

In June of 2019 the salesman told us it would be the first quarter of 2020. Every since then it’s always been another 6 months. Actually, now that I think about it, every salesman has said it will be 6 to 9 months down the road. I’m at a point where I’ll believe it when I see it.

 

[rthib]

It's like the sign at the bar
"Free Beer - Tomorrow"

 

[pchung6]

I want to stay with Vistana forever. However, it looks like Marriott will soon force Vistana owners into DC by devaluing Staroptions big time. I don't want it at all but have to adopt soon.

 

[CPNY]

I want to stay with Vistana forever. However, it looks like Marriott will soon force Vistana owners into DC by devaluing Staroptions big time. I don't want it at all but have to adopt soon.

I went to St John two weeks ago and if it becomes harder to get into WSJ when the conversion happens, then I’ll just have to buy there. I’m concerned with what’s going to happen with the VSN availability once there is some level on integration. After going to MSU a few times this summer, I’m not that excited about being able to book Marriott properties. The Marriott’s in Aruba are nice, they aren’t as good as WSJ or the offerings at the harborside (everything you get at Atlantis). The villas at MSU and resort itself are much nicer than harborside, but I go for everything that comes along with being at the Atlantis.

Being an east coaster, I’d much rather go to St. John or the Bahamas than Hawaii so the nice properties out there don’t appeal to me. Maybe using points at some of the pulse locations would be a nice option but not one that I’m overly excited about. I CAN wait to see how this all shakes out.

 

[mjm1]

I want to stay with Vistana forever. However, it looks like Marriott will soon force Vistana owners into DC by devaluing Staroptions big time. I don't want it at all but have to adopt soon.

I don’t understand why you and others feel they will devalue StarOptions. This has been discussed in prior threads on the topic, but I don’t believe MVC will want to disenfranchise loyal Vistana owners as that would hurt their own value.

I suspect that VSN and the current way we use SVN will stay in place, but they will offer owners a way to participate in what ever program they eventually roll out. There will likely be some sort of enrollment fee, hopefully similar in scope to what they charged both developer and resale MVC owners to enroll in their DC program. Their goal would be to get as many Vistana owners as possible participating, enjoying the new program, and then try to sell us more points in the new program. How that will interact with the current DC program is unknown at this time. This is what they did with MVC weeks owners when they rolled out the DC program in 2010. And by-and-large it has worked.

Best regards.

Mike

 

[SueDonJ]

I want to stay with Vistana forever. However, it looks like Marriott will soon force Vistana owners into DC by devaluing Staroptions big time. I don't want it at all but have to adopt soon.

I don’t understand why you and others feel they will devalue StarOptions. This has been discussed in prior threads on the topic, but I don’t believe MVC will want to disenfranchise loyal Vistana owners as that would hurt their own value.

I don't understand the expectation of a devaluation, either. When Marriott introduced the DC and offered enrollment to existing Weeks Owners, nothing was taken away. Enrollment simply offered another usage option (subject to an annual fee, of course) on top of every other usage option. The only question was whether the new option provided added value commensurate with the annual fee, and the answer varies for every owner depending on what's owned and how it's used.

I think by far the easiest way for Marriott to integrate all the timeshares that come under the MVW umbrella is via enrollment in the Destination Club Exchange Company. It's going to be interesting, that's for sure, learning if that's how they do it with Vistana ownerships or if they introduce yet another new something.

 

[rcv82]

I think the worry for Vistana owners is that today the VSN and it’s StarOptions works a lot different than what I understand of DC. Most of the Sheraton and Westin’s get and cost the same number of StarOptions through the high season of the year (year around in HI). DC seems to value each resort and even week of year differently. With VSN people can buy a lower cost resort (especially in maintenance fees) and trade into a higher cost resort at 8 months out. The worry is that this will either get harder or the lower cost & demand resorts will no longer get sufficient points to make the trade and/or there will be less availability. Or that the conversation rate into DC points will be too low.

While I think some of these things could happen, in the end if it is not attractive for Vistana owners to trade into MVC, there won’t be many units for MVC owners to trade into Vistana. So I remain optimistic.


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[gln60]

I went to St John two weeks ago and if it becomes harder to get into WSJ when the conversion happens, then I’ll just have to buy there. I’m concerned with what’s going to happen with the VSN availability once there is some level on integration. After going to MSU a few times this summer, I’m not that excited about being able to book Marriott properties. The Marriott’s in Aruba are nice, they aren’t as good as WSJ or the offerings at the harborside (everything you get at Atlantis). The villas at MSU and resort itself are much nicer than harborside, but I go for everything that comes along with being at the Atlantis.

Being an east coaster, I’d much rather go to St. John or the Bahamas than Hawaii so the nice properties out there don’t appeal to me. Maybe using points at some of the pulse locations would be a nice option but not one that I’m overly excited about. I CAN wait to see how this all shakes out.

Hi…living on the East Coast..Hawaii is just too far for us…we have been there twice and of course it’s beautiful….but have no desire to return..we prefer the Caribbean…..especially Aruba and St. Martaan..someday we would love to visit WSJ..but its next to impossible to book.

 

[dioxide45]

Salespeople at Vistana tell us Q1 2022 we can book Marriott properties on the Vistana Dashboard, but only if we buy Sheraton (and presumably Westin) Flex. Marriott salesperson tells us its BS. Who to beleive

 

[rickandcindy23]

I'd guess that if that happens it will function through the DC, with Vistana owners only able to participate in the Destination Club if they enroll their existing ownerships into the DC. They'd then become members of the Destination Club Exchange Company (which suffers no legal constraints to opening up membership to non-Marriott owners/members, and no legal constraints that limit the DC Exchange Company to only Marriott-branded properties.)

Interesting times, waiting to see if/how Marriott integrates all of the timeshares that now come under the Marriott Vacations Worldwide umbrella.

I would only buy Marriott resorts to move into DC. I wouldn't convert Vistana to the Flexoptions they are talking about currently. That doesn't have the same appeal.

 

[rcv82]

Salespeople at Vistana tell us Q1 2022 we can book Marriott properties on the Vistana Dashboard, but only if we buy Sheraton (and presumably Westin) Flex. Marriott salesperson tells us its BS. Who to beleive

At least the people selling Flex say that. I got that all over the place. And then at my last update at WKORV they tried to get me to trade my Flex for a deeded week or Nanea Oceanfront HomeOptions as that would be “much better in the merged system.”


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[GrayFal]

Salespeople at Vistana tell us Q1 2022 we can book Marriott properties on the Vistana Dashboard, but only if we buy Sheraton (and presumably Westin) Flex. Marriott salesperson tells us its BS. Who to beleive

In Aruba in May they told us we would be able to book Vistana Q1 2022 but only if we bought DC points....sound familiar?

 

[5finny]

Salespeople at Vistana tell us Q1 2022 we can book Marriott properties on the Vistana Dashboard, but only if we buy Sheraton (and presumably Westin) Flex. Marriott salesperson tells us its BS. Who to beleive

The only time a timeshare salesperson is likely telling the truth is when he says another salesperson lied

 

[planada]

I was told the same thing yesterday at Waikoloa. He said at this point it’s not on the website but calling will get you both Westin and Hyatt using DP only. Haven’t tried it yet. Just passing on salesman lingo


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[CPNY]

6 short months and we should find out !

 

[dioxide45]

6 short months and we should find out !

Technically 6-9 months!