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Schools reopening or not

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Cornell said:
@DannyTS - do businesses use Zoom? Serious question , I don't know.
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We don’t where I work. We used WebEx for years and now recently switched over to Microsoft Teams.
 
TravelTime said:
Spreading Covid. She got on a bus knowing she had Covid and exposed a lot of people to it. It is not clear how many places she went on campus before getting on the bus.
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Show me where that is illegal and who else has been charged with that crime. The school told her to move about campus. on foot. with all her stuff. True, that's before she decided to flee.

I would sooner charge school with negligence for not adequately seeing to a person known to be infected.
 
TravelTime said:
BTW, I did not say she “should” go to jail. I said she “could” go to jail. Many people are saying that spreading Covid knowingly is a crime. If people know they have Covid and expose themselves to other people, many would consider this irresponsible regardless of the circumstances.

Frankly, I am more easy going about Covid and I do not personally judge her for not liking the dorm and finding a hotel. I am a prima donna too and I would have done the same exact thing. But if I had done what she did, I am sure many people would tell me I was irresponbile. I doubt I would get much sympathy.
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the thing is, "many people are saying" does not make a law, cannot automatically result in criminal penalties. We no longer accuse and burn witches.

I don't think one would have to be a prima donna to ditch gross quarters.
 
One thing about this student story that we haven't dished about - telling her to Not tell her parents about being COVID positive.

The young lady contracts a deadly illness, and should not tell her parents? I think whoever told her that should be fired.
 
The University of Iowa student appears in other Covid media stories....


dailyiowan.com

Students coming to the UI from Chicago share concerns about required travel quarantine

Some University of Iowa students from Illinois are worried about how Chicago’s mandatory quarantine on travelers will affect the people who plan to help them move to Iowa City. The Chicago Department of Health Commissioner Allison Arwady issued an Emergency Travel Order on July 2, requiring...
dailyiowan.com dailyiowan.com

As an Iowa State graduate, I feel confident that the ISU would have handled this way better than UI. Vet school vs. med school. ;)
 
geekette said:
the thing is, "many people are saying" does not make a law, cannot automatically result in criminal penalties. We no longer accuse and burn witches.

I don't think one would have to be a prima donna to ditch gross quarters.
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Okay, so maybe she should be burned like a witch. <joke to lighten this up>

The dorm sounds like my place in grad school in NYC. It had dirty water coming out of the faucets and roaches everywhere. When I walked to school in the early morning, I would pass by rats the size of small dogs bc I took a back entrance to school where there was a garbage dump. I had no choice but to stay there or quit school. I spent the entire semester on a list to move to a new apartment. I finally was granted it but the roaches followed me. LOL
 
TravelTime said:
Okay, so maybe she should be burned like a witch. <joke to lighten this up>

The dorm sounds like my place in grad school in NYC. It had dirty water coming out of the faucets and roaches everywhere. When I walked to school in the early morning, I would pass by rats the size of small dogs bc I took a back entrance to school where there was a garbage dump. I had no choice but to stay there or quit school. I spent the entire semester on a list to move to a new apartment. I finally was granted it but the roaches followed me. LOL
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ugh! I lived in one seriously gross place when I was young and poor and at this point would choose my car instead.

yeah, roaches can follow. best friend of my husband lived in an old beaten down trailer, roach infested. the roaches were in the boxes he moved. he was moving in with a lady that said his boxes stay outside. he can go through them and clean every item before it enters the house.

That ended up being a short term relationship, and I imagine there was roach encroach contributing to the downfall, as they aren't too respectful of patio vs interior rules.

I had thought it normal that he always smelled like bug spray. I mean, I'd be spraying for the creeps all the time if I couldn't move. It was years before I found out that the smell was something he used on his hair. He said it was aloe vera. Perhaps I have never fully smelled aloe vera, and never will, if that's the aroma to expect.

I can understand how an apartment over a restaurant could be buggy, but student dorms should not be. Paid student housing should be clean. We saw the exterminator regularly. smelled just like aloe vera ... ; )
 
TravelTime said:
Okay, so maybe she should be burned like a witch. <joke to lighten this up>

The dorm sounds like my place in grad school in NYC. It had dirty water coming out of the faucets and roaches everywhere. When I walked to school in the early morning, I would pass by rats the size of small dogs bc I took a back entrance to school where there was a garbage dump. I had no choice but to stay there or quit school. I spent the entire semester on a list to move to a new apartment. I finally was granted it but the roaches followed me. LOL
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It seems the poor girl expected a Four Seasons experience. I think she was more upset about that than about Covid.
 
Cornell said:
@DannyTS - do businesses use Zoom? Serious question , I don't know.
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Yes, many do, but I think most larger businesses have alternative communication tools so they are not reliant on a single, outside-the-company, tool. For example, my company has three different video conference tools that are all sanctioned tools (one of them being Zoom). Some use company-owned servers (basically, our own "instance" of the tool, not relying on the outside company's servers), so we would not be affected by an outage by those companies.

Kurt
 
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Cornell said:
No joke. It's a FARCE! I honestly don't understand why these schools are using Zoom.
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If you have to teach online Zoom is probably the best platform currently available. There is a high degree of control that the instructor has over the class and the breakout rooms are critical for getting some level of class interaction. It's almost like they designed Zoom for online class delivery.
 
DannyTS said:
It seems the poor girl expected a Four Seasons experience. I think she was more upset about that than about Covid.
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So I "know" this girl in the UI story. I don't mean I know her personally but know the type. There is a stereotype of Chicago suburban girls that go to Univ of Iowa.

And I'm allowed to poke a bit of fun @ her b/c I AM one --- Chicago suburban teenage girl that went to U of Iowa ;) (I had the sense to transfer hahahahaha)

I belong to a group called Cyclone Nation (the Iowa Staters love to make fun of UI) and this story is getting analyzed up & down on there .
 
Cornell said:
So I "know" this girl in the UI story. I don't mean I know her personally but know the type. There is a stereotype of Chicago suburban girls that go to Univ of Iowa.

And I'm allowed to poke a bit of fun @ her b/c I AM one --- Chicago suburban teenage girl that went to U of Iowa ;) (I had the sense to transfer hahahahaha)

I belong to a group called Cyclone Nation (the Iowa Staters love to make fun of UI) and this story is getting analyzed up & down on there .
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What is the stereotype of a Chicago suburban girl that goes to UI? What is the Cyclone Nation saying about this story?
 
@TravelTime The stereotype (I'm waiting for the haters to pile on , but remember TUGGERs -- I am one!) is those that aren't smart enough to go to Univ of Illinois.

Cyclone Nation is just making fun of the whole thing in a good natured, rivalry way. Laughing at the fact that UI seemed so unprepared when they have a medical school there.
 
I always thought the cutest girls at the U of Iowa came from the Chicago suburbs. :giggle:

But yes, there will always be a rivalry between the ‘clones and hawks. Personally, the debate is best settled on the football field.
 
Cornell said:
www.11alive.com

Young children frustrated and in tears over digital learning as parents try to adapt during coronavirus pandemic

The parents of young children across Georgia had a frustrating first day back to school as kids too young to understand the pandemic tried to learn online
www.11alive.com www.11alive.com
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It is what it is. Parents and students are just going to have to adapt. My kids are frustrated as well with virtual learning. My goal as a parent is to get them to the point where they can maximize the tools available to them to achieve academic success. We can whine and complain about this forever, but the bottom line is that, many schools are not going to open for in person learning, and virtual learning is going to be the reality for many districts across the country. These kids are more resilient than we give them credit for. There are going to be a lot of kids who regress or are left behind, but most will rebound. Kid's have left school to fight wars. These kids are only being asked to study via the internet. They'll be fine.
 
cman said:
It is what it is. Parents and students are just going to have to adapt. My kids are frustrated as well with virtual learning. My goal as a parent is to get them to the point where they can maximize the tools available to them to achieve academic success. We can whine and complain about this forever, but the bottom line is that, many schools are not going to open for in person learning, and virtual learning is going to be the reality for many districts across the country. These kids are more resilient than we give them credit for. There are going to be a lot of kids who regress or are left behind, but most will rebound. Kid's have left school to fight wars. These kids are only being asked to study via the internet. They'll be fine.
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I refuse to settle and accept the raw deal our kids are getting
 
jabberwocky said:
I always thought the cutest girls at the U of Iowa came from the Chicago suburbs. :giggle:

But yes, there will always be a rivalry between the ‘clones and hawks. Personally, the debate is best settled on the football field.
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My dad was the child of immigrants. He managed to get himself through college at ISU through ROTC and a football scholarship. He loved Iowa State so much b/c his scholarship gave him the opportunity to get a college education.

Fast forward, I chose to go to UI and he just could not understand my choice. (I transferred after a year).

I wound up going to Iowa State for grad school so it all came full circle. ISU has been very good to my family. And their football team broke my dad's heart many times over the years.
 
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