Hawaii to require 14-day quarantine of incoming air passengers [merged]

[Luanne]

How long are we going to be held hostage in our homes for this virus? I wanted to go to Kauai 6/6. I won't cancel until the governor of Hawaii closes the state longer than 5/20. I already have cancellations in RCI that I have to use the exchange fee by 6/30/2020. I don't even know what to book with those exchange fee credits.

The islands depend on tourism. I expect Hawaii to really suffer over this, so I hope the governor opens things up, and not just for my trip, but for the good of their economy.

Why are people making this political? I am concerned for our country.

We will be held hostage until it is "safe". And what "safe" looks like seems to be different. There is now a coalition of governors on both the east and west coasts that are working together on criteria.

I'm sure all of us who have had to cancel things, vacations, conferences, etc. are very disappointed. Personally I don't think we are going to travel through the rest of this year. We've cancelled a trip to Seattle, our trip to NYC, and dd has had two work conferences (that she was looking forward to) cancelled. Maybe I'm inserting my own, and my family's, paranoia (or whatever you want to call it) but I'd much rather cancel a trip than risk my health or that of my family and others.

 

[Kapolei]

Just pulled the trigger on an AC 2 bd MKO for last week in May. Wish me luck. Says HTPPT. Can’t find that old list that tells me the categories.

 

[artringwald]

Why are people making this political?

I can't answer why it's political, but it is a delicate balance between jobs and lives. Hawaii is shut down because they don't have the medical facilities and supplies to handle a large outbreak. They don't want people to die because of inadequate care. People will still get sick and die, but they don't want it to happen all at once. The responsible governors are looking at the data and listening to the experts to slowly open up to prevent a new surge in cases.

 

[csodjd]

We will be held hostage until it is "safe". And what "safe" looks like seems to be different. There is now a coalition of governors on both the east and west coasts that are working together on criteria.

I'm sure all of us who have had to cancel things, vacations, conferences, etc. are very disappointed. Personally I don't think we are going to travel through the rest of this year. We've cancelled a trip to Seattle, our trip to NYC, and dd has had two work conferences (that she was looking forward to) cancelled. Maybe I'm inserting my own, and my family's, paranoia (or whatever you want to call it) but I'd much rather cancel a trip than risk my health or that of my family and others.

That's very understandable.

I view it as more of a risk-benefit analysis, one that we each have to make individually because both the risk and benefit vary by individual. Nobody can take a trip to many places around the world without the risk of becoming sick as a result. Just drinking the water in Mexico can do it. So an element of risk is always there, it's just that the risk is low and the benefit "wins."

As days go by we are becoming both better prepared in terms of precautions that we can take to avoid being infected and less likely to encounter a contagious person as social distancing and face masks do their work to reduce the transmission and number of contagious people. Hopefully over the next month or two we'll have good data on effective treatments that even further reduce the risk of serious (ICU level or maybe even hospitalization level) of illness. When you consider the disproportionate number of deaths from COVID in African Americans and the obese, if you subtract those from the mortality data we may find for a non-African American non-obese person, the incidence of ventilation need is dramatically lower, which further bends the risk for most people (those that are neither African-American or obese).

So I'm factoring all those things into the decision if and when to travel, and to where. At some point I hope that the risk will have diminished to a reasonably small level. It has never been, and will never be, zero.

 

[Kapolei]

I can't answer why it's political, but it is a delicate balance between jobs and lives. Hawaii is shut down because they don't have the medical facilities and supplies to handle a large outbreak. They don't want people to die because of inadequate care. People will still get sick and die, but they don't want it to happen all at once. The responsible governors are looking at the data and listening to the experts to slowly open up to prevent a new surge in cases.

I believe a governor's primary job is the health and safety of the people of his or her state. In the case of Hawaii, making the state safe will be good for both the people that live here and the tourists. People just need to be a little patient and put up with inconveniences that are going to occur. This is a new normal that still needs to be sorted out.

 

[lynne]

How long are we going to be held hostage in our homes for this virus? I wanted to go to Kauai 6/6. I won't cancel until the governor of Hawaii closes the state longer than 5/20. I already have cancellations in RCI that I have to use the exchange fee by 6/30/2020. I don't even know what to book with those exchange fee credits.

The islands depend on tourism. I expect Hawaii to really suffer over this, so I hope the governor opens things up, and not just for my trip, but for the good of their economy.

Why are people making this political? I am concerned for our country.

We completely understand that we need tourism, however the state will not open if there continues to be a large risk to the population here. Our medical facilities are minimal (especially on Kauai). Southwest has just announced flights not resuming (with the exception of a few) until June 28:

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Unfortunately our islands continue to be vulnerable. The island of Hawaii has shut down timeshares, short term rentals, B&Bs and the majority of our hotels/resorts as non-essential businesses. Kauai has implemented strict closures as well but not sure of the detail. All of these are in place until further notice.

 

[csodjd]

Southwest has just announced flights not resuming (with the exception of a few) until June 28:

Yet Hawaiian still says their flights in May are not "canceled." Anything to avoid having to refund....

 

[Luanne]

Gavin Newsom has outlined what it will take to re-open California, not when. He is also working with the governors of the other western states.

 

[VacationForever]

Gavin Newsom has outlined what it will take to re-open California, not when. He is also working with the governors of the other western states.

I know that. Every governor, politician left or right is looking at how and when to re-open their economy. I just cannot tolerate political posts on TUG where they sneak in their own judgment on their other party.

 

[bnoble]

I view it as more of a risk-benefit analysis, one that we each have to make individually because both the risk and benefit vary by individual.

There is an added factor to this particular situation, though, in that our actions can significantly impact those around us in ways that e.g. getting ill from drinking the water would not.

 

[artringwald]

There is an added factor to this particular situation, though, in that our actions can significantly impact those around us in ways that e.g. getting ill from drinking the water would not.

It's kind of like we have the right to have a bonfire in our backyard, but not when it's dry and windy.

 

[NiteMaire]

Just pulled the trigger on an AC 2 bd MKO for last week in May. Wish me luck. Says HTPPT. Can’t find that old list that tells me the categories.

H = Developer week bulk
TPPT = Penthouse Mountain view

Here's the list:

Marriott II Unit Codes

Heyyyyy dioxide... We ended up with an exchange into MM1 coming up in May. It's an Ocean View Studio and the room code is TOGV. Your list shows OVOG as the code but both II and Marriott's website are showing me TOGV with an OceanView description. Just wanted to let you know if an update is...

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According to @frank808 this will be in Naia Tower. Here's his response a post asking about HTPPT.

You will be in naia tower with that code. Could be looking at the mountain or towards diamond head in distance. Maybe a view of the ocean to the right of balcony.

 

[echino]

If the resort is nearly empty, all villa assignment rules go out the window. They will likely accommodate your request for any villa.

I just spent three weeks at Waiohai, all II exchanges, and they gave me a great ocean view despite an island view code on II confirmation.

 

[Kapolei]

Thanks for the replies. MKO is apparently still open. No pool or lagoon usage. But a couple hundred bucks fee on the AC was too good to pass up. PH sounds good. I’ll use it even if everything is closed. But I am hoping things will be open by then.

 

[Luanne]

Thanks for the replies. MKO is apparently still open. No pool or lagoon usage. But a couple hundred bucks fee on the AC was too good to pass up. PH sounds good. I’ll use it even if everything is closed. But I am hoping things will be open by then.

If the 14-day quarantine is still in place you will be as well.

I think end of May is still too soon to expect things to be opened up, but I may be projecting my own paranoia into this prediction.

 

[VacationForever]

If the resort is nearly empty, all villa assignment rules go out the window. They will likely accommodate your request for any villa.

I just spent three weeks at Waiohai, all II exchanges, and they gave me a great ocean view despite an island view code on II confirmation.

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Oh, how my heart longs for this.

 

[Kapolei]

If the 14-day quarantine is still in place you will be as well.

I think end of May is still too soon to expect things to be opened up, but I may be projecting my own paranoia into this prediction.

I am not subject to any quarantine orders. Stay at home orders are different. I could see arrival quarantines lasting longer than stay at home. Time will tell.

 

[Luanne]

I am not subject to any quarantine orders. Stay at home orders are different. I could see arrival quarantines lasting longer than stay at home. Time will tell.

I almost added to my post the question if you were already on the island but didn't.

 

[NiteMaire]

I am not subject to any quarantine orders. Stay at home orders are different. I could see arrival quarantines lasting longer than stay at home. Time will tell.

I'm hoping they won't have to extend the inter-island quarantine past the end of the month. It'll be a sign of progress...and we have a week at Point at Poipu at the beginning of May. Lodging and flight reservations are still valid. I figure we'll hear any day regarding any extension beyond April 30th.

There's talk about how Hawaii can gradually start lifting restrictions. I didn't catch the entire interview, but the Lt Gov said some things may be relaxed at the end of the month. The mayor of Honolulu issued an emergency order (starts Monday) making face masks mandatory for nearly all public situations. Kauai did something similar yesterday. The mask mandates may actually assist in relaxing some restrictions.

 

[Kapolei]

I'm hoping they won't have to extend the inter-island quarantine past the end of the month. It'll be a sign of progress...and we have a week at Point at Poipu at the beginning of May. Lodging and flight reservations are still valid. I figure we'll hear any day regarding any extension beyond April 30th.

There's talk about how Hawaii can gradually start lifting restrictions. I didn't catch the entire interview, but the Lt Gov said some things may be relaxed at the end of the month. The mayor of Honolulu issued an emergency order (starts Monday) making face masks mandatory for nearly all public situations. Kauai did something similar yesterday. The mask mandates may actually assist in relaxing some restrictions.

I am hoping we get a daily report in the next week or two that shows no new cases. But that may be wishful thinking. There may be no perfect answer. At some point it will be damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

 

[frank808]

Just pulled the trigger on an AC 2 bd MKO for last week in May. Wish me luck. Says HTPPT. Can’t find that old list that tells me the categories.

MV 2br penthouse villa non lock off.

Might be in Kona tower as that is where all guests are right now.

Also will be here so PM me if you want to meet up. We are here till June 12.
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[slip]

If the inter-island quarantine is not extended. I will move my Molokai trip from the first two weeks of May to the last two weeks of May. I would be very happy with that.

 

[slip]

I'm hoping they won't have to extend the inter-island quarantine past the end of the month. It'll be a sign of progress...and we have a week at Point at Poipu at the beginning of May. Lodging and flight reservations are still valid. I figure we'll hear any day regarding any extension beyond April 30th.

There's talk about how Hawaii can gradually start lifting restrictions. I didn't catch the entire interview, but the Lt Gov said some things may be relaxed at the end of the month. The mayor of Honolulu issued an emergency order (starts Monday) making face masks mandatory for nearly all public situations. Kauai did something similar yesterday. The mask mandates may actually assist in relaxing some restrictions.

I heard they were also planning to have testing be a part of the relaxing of restrictions. If that’s the case that could delay things.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

I posted a survey on the Facebook Marriott Maui Ocean Club group asking people's opinions of when the quarantine might (in their opinion) be lifted. I thought that the collective opinion of a few dozen people might be better than my own intuition. Of course, no one really knows. Here are the results:

"Lifting of the Quarantine? AFAIK, the quarantine does not have an expiration date. It is just "until further notice". And it doesn't appear that Hawaii has set any sort of lifting date.
So, I'm wondering what the collective thoughts are of when the quarantine is likely to be lifted and perhaps your thoughts WHY you think this..."

Results (to date):
July 1: 43 votes
Beginning of June: 29 votes
Mid May : 12 votes
August 31: 9 votes
December 2020: 5 votes
End of April: 2 votes

So the majority of people think that the quarantine will be stopped sometime during June. It'll be interesting to see if the collective opinions of many has any predictive accuracy.

 

[echino]

My opinion is unfortunately things will get back to normal only after the majority of people are vaccinated. That will probably happen in about 1.5 or 2 years.