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Merger update from "points guy" [Integrating SPG / Marriott Rewards]

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1. Marriott Rewards and Starwood Preferred Guest members will be able to link their accounts from both programs at members.marriott.com. Marriott has begun activating the site, and it should be live within a few hours.

2. Members will receive a status match from the other program — if you’re a Marriott Platinum elite, for example, you’ll now be an SPG Platinum as well. Matches will take “a few hours” to complete. For SPG Platinum members, this means you’ll now be eligible for United Silver elite status, giving you access to free upgrades, Economy Plus seating, bonus miles, Premier Access, free checked bags and more.

Here’s the full breakdown of how the match breaks down, alongside the number of nights and stays (Starwood only) that are normally required to earn that status:

Starwood Status SPG Nights SPG Stays Marriott Status MR Nights MR Stays
Platinum 50 25 Platinum 75 N/A
Gold 25 10 Gold 50 N/A
Preferred Plus* N/A N/A Silver 10 N/A
Preferred 0 0 Member 0 N/A
*Note: Preferred Plus status is granted to Amex co-branded cardholders, individuals with a linked auto club membership and AARP members.

See this post for a full breakdown of Starwood Preferred Guest elite benefits, and this post for a detailed list of Marriott Rewards benefits.

3. Members can transfer points between both programs at a 1:3 ratio — each Starpoint will be equivalent to three Marriott points. That’s about as good as we could have hoped for, given that TPG values Starpoints at 2.5 cents and Marriott points at 0.7 cents each. In theory, you may be gaining value by moving Marriott points to Starwood and losing value by moving them in the other direction, but that’ll ultimately depend on your redemptions. We’ll be digging into how and when you’ll benefit by converting points in the days to come. Transferred points should appear within a few hours, and you can move points back and forth as many times as you’d like.

Note that you can not transfer points earned through the Marriott Vacation Club timeshare program — it’s not yet clear whether Starpoints earned through the Vistana program are eligible for transfers.



Read more: http://thepointsguy.com/2016/09/spg-marriott-rewards-status-match-points-transfer/#ixzz4L3IBuGY7
 
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I have linked my accounts and Marriot now shows platinum. Pretty impressive that it was all immediate. I also registered for United Silver too. I hope this is a sign of things to come.
 
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I have linked my accounts and Marriot now shows platinum. Pretty impressive that it was all immediate. I also registered for United Silver too. I hope this is a sign of things to come.



Offline now...trying to link my accounts, will try again tomorrow.


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Wasn't able to link yet...but thoroughly impressed so far! Happy with the temporary conversion rate and status matching.
 
I am staying at a Westin hotel this week. Today there was a letter that reads:

Dear Valied Guest:

It gives me great pleasure to announce that today, the most iconic and visionary name in hospitality, Marriott International, expands to include the Starwood portfolio of hotels creating the world's most desirable and prestigious collection of hotel brands.

The new Marriott portfolio of hotels now has 30 brands and over 5700 locations across more than 110 countries.

Our three loyalty programs give you access to the world's largest collection of hotels and travel experiences wherever your future travels take you. Learn more and join or link accounts at members.marriott.com

Thank you for sharing this historic day and celebrating the creation of the world's largest and best hotel company!
The bottom of the letter includes the three rewards programs mentioned:
The Ritz-Carlton Rewards, Marriott Rewards and SPG - Starwood Preferred Guest.
 
Tried to link my accounts at the link above,, but I just get a message that says:

COMING SOON
Get ready to link your accounts to enjoy the best of each program.
Instant status match. Transfer points. It’s all about you.
Check back soon.

I then went to spg.com on my iPhone and in the drop down menu, here was a button to Link to Marriott Rewards. That button worked right away. I dint see an equivalent link on the full site, it I may just have missed it. I didn't look that closely.
 
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Well, that was easy. You can link your accounts here:

https://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/account/benefits/marriott/index.html

Plat status match was instant. Happy with the conversion rate. Considering you can earn 2x points at Starwood properties with the SPG AMEX, that's basically a 6 pts/$ earning ratio for Marriott Rewards points. Not terrible, and a good indicator that Marriott fully recognizes that SPG points are worth significantly more than MR points.

I still expect the value of Elite and points to go down on the SPG side in the medium term, but hey, you win some you lose some. Hopefully the increase in redemption locations will help to balance it out somewhat.
 
Just upgraded my Ritz Gold to Plat and DW Marriott Silver to Gold. The update was instantaneous. It would have been nice if the ratio was more favorable, but like it was mentioned above, you win some you lose some.
 
SPG to Marriott Transfer now live!

It looks like you can now link your SPG account to Marriott

http://thepointsguy.com/2016/09/linking-marriott-and-spg-accounts/

Looking like the transfer ratio is 1:3 SPG to MRP. When I linked, my SPG Gold status did match over, so it appears for now there is no downgrade to Marriott silver (yet).
 
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New Starpoint to Marriott Rewards transfer

So it looks like any Starpoints from explorer packages or interest conversions aren't eligible for the 1:3 Starpoint ->Marriott rewards transfer. Makes me wonder about the future of those Starpoint conversions and packages.



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http://members.marriott.com/faq/?ES...gnature-experiences-or-marriott-vacation-club

Can I transfer points I earned through an interest in Vistana™ Signature Experiences or Marriott Vacation Club®?

Points earned through an interest in Vistana Signature Experiences or Marriott Vacation Club may not be transferred between SPG and Rewards.
 
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Account linked - that was easy! Transferred my orphan Marriott points to SPG so I'm happy now.
 
I have never had the Marriott card, and I have only paid cash for Marriott hotels. The value for my Starpoints seemed pretty good, so I transferred most of my Starpoints over. I now have 270K Marriott points.

So if I check into a Marriott exchange and give my Starwood CC, will that be worth something more than just my usual 1X spend, or is that yet to be determined?
 
I have never had the Marriott card, and I have only paid cash for Marriott hotels. The value for my Starpoints seemed pretty good, so I transferred most of my Starpoints over. I now have 270K Marriott points.



So if I check into a Marriott exchange and give my Starwood CC, will that be worth something more than just my usual 1X spend, or is that yet to be determined?



And where will you be using those Marriott points?

No idea about the credit card bonus, but good question. Similarly, I wonder if in the near future we will be credited with nights and stays on SPG similar to how Marriott does with their timeshares (I doubt it will happen until the conversion is complete in a year or two).


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So it looks like any Starpoints from explorer packages or interest conversions aren't eligible for the 1:3 Starpoint ->Marriott rewards transfer. Makes me wonder about the future of those Starpoint conversions and packages.



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http://members.marriott.com/faq/?ES...gnature-experiences-or-marriott-vacation-club

Can I transfer points I earned through an interest in Vistana™ Signature Experiences or Marriott Vacation Club®?

Points earned through an interest in Vistana Signature Experiences or Marriott Vacation Club may not be transferred between SPG and Rewards.

Hmmmm, good question. Marriott Vacation Club is included as an "Upscale" property in the combined list - click Compare Brands at this link - but VSE isn't. MVC has always (before and after MVC was spun off in 2011) been included under the Marriott umbrella. I wonder if because VSE was spun off prior to this takeover, VSE and Marriott need to now develop a new agreement for VSE to be included under the umbrella? I'm not the only one who's been hoping to be able to use MRP (Marriott Rewards Points) for Vistana timeshare stays, will have to test that out.
 
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And where will you be using those Marriott points?

Since we don't live on the coast, we like to stay in various coastal cities before flying to/ from Maui and Kauai.

Starwood has had few hotel options with airport shuttle service for us. When we go to Seattle, I have been booking us into the Radisson with Club Carlson points, but it's 38,000 points! I like the location, though, and I get one free hotel night a year with the card. I need more than one night for RT.

The best hotels near Seattle are the Marriott hotels. I usually pay cash. This give me an option of booking with points.

I admit to not staying in many Starwood hotels with points. I decided not to use the points for airfare. I need to get more value for my points.
 
I was able to get DH a SPG account today and link it with his Marriott account. He now shows as SPG Platinum.

Now will change him to the Primary Owner of our Starwood/VSE timeshares so we earn SPGs under his account at the higher Platinum rate.
All good.

Edit, and now I am Marriott Gold as well because of my SPG status. This is turning out well for us!
 
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I was able to get DH a SPG account today and link it with his Marriott account. He now shows as SPG Platinum.

Now will change him to the Primary Owner of our Starwood/VSE timeshares so we earn SPGs under his account at the higher Platinum rate.
All good.

Not sure if this is the same situation, but I wanted to change around our names on our ownership, and add husband to one where he was not even listed, but I was told that it would require the titles to be completely reissued, along with whatever fees.
 
Since we don't live on the coast, we like to stay in various coastal cities before flying to/ from Maui and Kauai.

Starwood has had few hotel options with airport shuttle service for us. When we go to Seattle, I have been booking us into the Radisson with Club Carlson points, but it's 38,000 points! I like the location, though, and I get one free hotel night a year with the card. I need more than one night for RT.

The best hotels near Seattle are the Marriott hotels. I usually pay cash. This give me an option of booking with points.

I admit to not staying in many Starwood hotels with points. I decided not to use the points for airfare. I need to get more value for my points.



Not to get too off topic, but I consider Club Carlson points value as only 20% of SPG, so that 38,000 is about 7,600 SPG points which is just over a cat 3 hotel.


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Since we don't live on the coast, we like to stay in various coastal cities before flying to/ from Maui and Kauai.

Starwood has had few hotel options with airport shuttle service for us. When we go to Seattle, I have been booking us into the Radisson with Club Carlson points, but it's 38,000 points! I like the location, though, and I get one free hotel night a year with the card. I need more than one night for RT.

The best hotels near Seattle are the Marriott hotels. I usually pay cash. This give me an option of booking with points.

I admit to not staying in many Starwood hotels with points. I decided not to use the points for airfare. I need to get more value for my points.


FYI - For stays I usually get 1.5 to 1.7 cents value with each MR Point. Anything less than that I pay using my Marriott credit card. With Gold status I get 17 points per dollar spent.
 
what benefits does marriott Platinum gives?

I am going to Japan and Hong Kong. When staying in starwood hotel, I get free breakfast when traveling international? Is there any benefits with Marriott or Ritz Carlton? I am thinking of moving some of my spg points and try out the Ritz Carlton or Marriott Hotel at Hong Kong or Tokyo.
 
FYI - For stays I usually get 1.5 to 1.7 cents value with each MR Point. Anything less than that I pay using my Marriott credit card. With Gold status I get 17 points per dollar spent.


Examples? That would be 4.5-5.1% per SPG point after conversion, which is typically higher than the average.


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Examples? That would be 4.5-5.1% per SPG point after conversion, which is typically higher than the average.


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This is a hotel that I have used points for on several occasions. It is 2 cents per MR Point, so I always use points. The rates below are with MR Points and cash rates. The cash rates are before taxes of $18-$20.


Fairfield Inn & Suites Dallas Plano/The Colony

Marriott Rewards Redemption
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Guest room, 2 Queen
Rate details Room details
7,500 points/stay
Guest room, 1 King
Rate details Room details
7,500 points/stay


Guest room, 1 King
Rate details Room details
139 USD/night
Guest room, 2 Queen
Rate details Room details
148 USD/night
 
Also, for my DD's Family Weekend at college, the rates are ridiculous.

Right now I can use 50K MR Points or pay cash of $762.
"Total for stay in hotel's currency 761.64"

(Note: Several hotels are 40K points but are sold out.)

Courtyard College Station, TX
 
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