Sticky - Official 2024 Maintenance Fee Thread

[HitchHiker71]

All ... Creating our official 2024 MF thread where TUGGERs can post about and discuss the "2024 HOA Maintenance Fees" ...

IF you want to see the Historical (year over year) Chart of HOA Maintenance Fees collected for the Resorts, CLICK HERE

I will periodically check replies on this thread and update the linked spreadsheet where we're capturing MFs on an ongoing basis. If you see that we're missing historical MF data in the linked spreadsheet for a particular resort and you've got the data in hand - feel free to post it in this thread and/or PM me and I'll get the chart updated with historical MF data as well.

 

[Melder]

I noticed a document under Bill History with my 2023 Assessment Summary. It only contains total values. When I divide by the number of points owned, the Program Fee has increased from $0.70 to $0.72.

Wyndham Grand Desert (Tower 1&2)
2023 Maintenance fees: $4.36
Reserve fund: $1.21
Property tax: $0.19
Total HOA: $5.76

Increase of 6.5%

 

[cbyrne1174]

Towers on the Grove:
Total HOA: $5.53

Grand Desert Tower 3:
Total HOA: $5.79

 

[scootr5]

Avenue Plaza weeks ownership
Studio: $777.15
1 Bedroom: $999.96
9.8% increase

Wyndham Smoky Mountains - Governors Cross 1
2024 Maintenance fees: $4.52
Reserve fund: $1.90
Property tax: $0.21
Total HOA: $6.63
5.07% increase

Wyndham South Shore
2024 Maintenance fees: $3.56
Reserve fund: $0.80
Property tax: $0.16
Total HOA: $4.52
0.005% increase

Program fee without plus partners $0.70

 

[TheHolleys87]

Kona Coast II, managed by Wyndham - for our deeded 2BR weeks, $1539.98 per week. For 1BR weeks, $1197.89 per week.

I haven’t calculated the increase compared to 2023.

 

[dioxide45]

So here is what I was able to decipher for our newly acquired Club Wyndham Access per 1,000 points. The 2023 number came from last year's MF thread.

2024 Maintenance Fee: $7.44
2024 Reserve Fund: $0.21
2024 Total: $7.65

2023 Total $7.22 >>> 5.96% increase

[Moderator Note: Percentage corrected at OP's request.] <-- SueDonJ

 

[Jan M.]

2024 program fees went up two cents in each category.

.80 per thousand for 1st million PR points
.72 per thousand with Plus Partners
.70 per thousand without Plus Partners

2024 CWA - $7.65, up 5.96%

2024 Panama City Beach - Presidential Reserve - $5.60, up 10.236%

2023 Panama City Beach - Presidential Reserve - $5.08

 

[markb53]

Panama City Beach standard
2024 Maintenance Fees $4.49
2024 Reserve fund. $0.74
2024 Property tax. $0.16
Total $5.39
Including the program fee increase it is 7.2% over 2023

Plus program fee of $0.70/k non plus partners, $0.72/k plus partners

 

[paxsarah]

Mine's in Paymentus now.

Grand Desert 1&2 (as reported above, just duplicating for my own reference)
2024 Maintenance fees: $4.36
Reserve fund: $1.21
Property tax: $0.19
Total HOA: $5.76
Increase of 6.5%

Ocean Boulevard III
2024 Maintenance fees: $4.73
Reserve fund: $1.22
Property tax: $0.26
Total HOA: $6.21
Increase of 7.6%

Kingsgate (converted F/W)
2024 Maintenance fees: $891.36
Reserve fund: $450.36
Property tax: $38.28
Total HOA: $1380.00
With a 238k week, it comes to $5.80/k
Increase of 4.9%

Oceanside Pier
2024 Maintenance fees: $4.19
Reserve fund: $0.94
Property tax: $0.30
Total HOA: $5.43
Increase of 4.8%

Also mainly for my own purposes (if I don't have my chicken scratched letter handy, I regularly come back to the TUG thread to see my info), my current overall MF/k, including program fee, is $6.47/k. Last year at this time with a different set of contracts (I've acquired two and exited two), it was $6.66/k. (I'm not counting one more small contract still in process that should bring it down a bit more.)

 

[HitchHiker71]

National Harbor:

2024 MFs: $4.90/1000 | $5.03/1000
Operating Fee: $3.71/1000 | $3.88/1000
Reserve Fund: $0.88/1000 | $0.85/1000
Property Tax: $0.31/1000 | $0.31/1000
% Increase: 1% | 0%

 

[rickandcindy23]

Has anyone gotten a statement for CWA?

The website is so squirrel-ly. I keep getting that log-in screen but already logged in, and I cannot check inventory because it goes back to that same screen. It's frustrating.

 

[bhessler]

Has anyone gotten a statement for CWA?

The website is so squirrel-ly. I keep getting that log-in screen but already logged in, and I cannot check inventory because it goes back to that same screen. It's frustrating.

No statement yet, but I saw in Paymentus the new assessment total. Someone posted above the right numbers per 1K points:
2024 Maintenance Fee: $7.44 / 1K
2024 Reserve Fund: $0.21 / 1K
2024 Total: $7.65 / 1K

 

[dioxide45]

Has anyone gotten a statement for CWA?

The website is so squirrel-ly. I keep getting that log-in screen but already logged in, and I cannot check inventory because it goes back to that same screen. It's frustrating.

See post #6. those amounts are from our first statement.

 

[markb53]

Has anyone gotten a statement for CWA?

The website is so squirrel-ly. I keep getting that log-in screen but already logged in, and I cannot check inventory because it goes back to that same screen. It's frustrating.

So that is $7.65/k plus the program fee.

 

[paxsarah]

No statement yet, but I saw in Paymentus the new assessment total. Someone posted above the right numbers per 1K points:
2024 Maintenance Fee: $7.44 / 1K
2024 Reserve Fund: $0.21 / 1K
2024 Total: $7.65 / 1K

Question for anyone who might know, just out of curiosity. Based on this, I'm assuming that for CWA the "Maintenance Fee" is the total of maintenance fee, reserve fund, and taxes for all of the properties it comprises. I'm guessing this because the Reserve Fund listed for CWA is so small (way smaller than the average reserve fund listed for other deeded resorts in this thread), and there's no tax listed - so it appears CWA has its own separate reserve fund. So what does the CWA Reserve Fund go towards? Is that to cover any special assessments that might come along (e.g. PCB)?

 

[paxsarah]

So here is what I was able to decipher for our newly acquired Club Wyndham Access per 1,000 points. The 2023 number came from last year's MF thread.

2024 Maintenance Fee: $7.44
2024 Reserve Fund: $0.21
2024 Total: $7.65

2023 Total $7.22 >>> 6.65% increase

I get a 6.0% increase from those numbers.

 

[dioxide45]

I get a 6.0% increase from those numbers.

You're right. It is 5.96% increase which matches Jan's number. I am not sure how I arrived at my percentage increase. I will request a mod to edit my post.

 

[paxsarah]

I just realized I received the budget for one more HOA before I Certified Exited it. (And you can see why I did!)

Ocean Boulevard (I believe the first phase, so it wasn't initially numbered)
2024 Maintenance fees: $6.10
Reserve fund: $1.64
Property tax: $0.26
Total HOA: $8.01
Increase of 10.9%

 

[markb53]

Question for anyone who might know, just out of curiosity. Based on this, I'm assuming that for CWA the "Maintenance Fee" is the total of maintenance fee, reserve fund, and taxes for all of the properties it comprises. I'm guessing this because the Reserve Fund listed for CWA is so small (way smaller than the average reserve fund listed for other deeded resorts in this thread), and there's no tax listed - so it appears CWA has its own separate reserve fund. So what does the CWA Reserve Fund go towards? Is that to cover any special assessments that might come along (e.g. PCB)?

I heard that there some some resorts, Austin being one, where CWA owns units for the whole year instead of just blocks of multiple units for part of the year. When CWA owns an entire unit it needs to have its own reserve fund to contribute to refurbishment and other items that the reserve fund pays for at a resort. The amount is small because the number of units that CWA owns in their entirety is small.

 

[paxsarah]

I heard that there some some resorts, Austin being one, where CWA owns units for the whole year instead of just blocks of multiple units for part of the year. When CWA owns an entire unit it needs to have its own reserve fund to contribute to refurbishment and other items that the reserve fund pays for at a resort. The amount is small because the number of units that CWA owns in their entirety is small.

Aha! Thanks!

 

[kaljor]

Wyndham Nashville
2024 Maintenance Fee: $6.38
Reserve Fund: $3.79
Property Tax:: $ .56
Total HOA: $10.73
Increase of 12.6%

I noticed that the Maintenance fee for Nashville was blank in the master spreadsheet for 2022 and 2023. Those figures are respectively $8.61 and $9.53


Wyndham Fairfield Bay
(Converted Fixed Week - 2 Bedroom Unit)
2024 Maintenance Fee: $4.81
Reserve Fund: $1.98
Property Tax: $.13
Total HOA: $6.92

 

[scootr5]

I noticed that the Maintenance fee for Nashville was blank in the master spreadsheet for 2022 and 2023. Those figures are respectively $8.61 and $9.53

Thank you for helping fill in blanks.

 

[geerlijd]

Wyndham Canterbury
2024 Maintenance Fee: $2.86
Reserve Fund: $0.84
Property Tax:: $0.38
Total HOA: $4.08
Increase of 3.6%

Wyndham Bali Hai
2024 Maintenance Fee: $3.32
Reserve Fund: $0.74
Property Tax:: $0.73
Total HOA: $4.79
Increase of 14.0%

 

[chapjim]

Bonnet Creek (Presidential Reserve)
2024 Maintenance Fee: $5.48
Reserve Fund: $1.24
Property Tax: $0.89
Total HOA: $7.61
Increase of: 8.1%

Orlando International
2024 Maintenance Fee: $5.05
Reserve Fund: $1.59
Property Tax: $0.52
Total HOA: $7.16
Increase of: 7.74%

Royal Vista
2024 Maintenance Fee: $6.06
Reserve Fund: $2.22
Property Tax: $0.46
Total HOA: $8.74
Increase of: 9.66%

Santa Barbara
2024 Maintenance Fee: $8.90
Reserve Fund: $1.84
Property Tax: $0.38
Total HOA: $11.13
Increase of: 13.92%

 

[lotus921v]

unenrolled Shearwater
2br $1991.97
3br $2203.51