2014-2015 Marriott Rewards Year-End Changeover, Status and Rollover Nights

This is being posted a little bit earlier this year because there have been a few glitches in Marriott Rewards MRP and Elite Nights postings during the last couple of months, and it's probably a good idea to make sure that any you might be suffering are resolved before the end of the year. (Check out this TUG thread for details.)

According to this marriott.com page the Rollover Nights promotion is continuing through at least 2016: Elite Rollover Nights

MR Status is based on the number of Elite Nights earned. Whatever status level you've earned as of 12/31/14 will remain in effect until Feb '16, unless you attain a higher level in the interim:
Silver = 10 Nights
Gold = 50 Nights
Platinum = 75 Nights

All Nights earned during 2014 and accumulated above the status requirements will roll over from 2014 into 2015. The equation to figure out how many should be posted to your account when the changeover is done, based on info in the "2014 Nights Detail" box in your account, is:
"2014 Total" Nights Earned this Year
<less> "2013 rollover" Nights (from 2013 to 2014)
<less> Number of Nights required for Status held as of 12/31/14 (10 Silver, 50 Gold, 75 Plat)
<equals> Rollover Nights for 2014 into 2015

*Marriott might grant status based on something other than actual Elite Nights earned; e.g. a Silver with 45 Nights might be granted Gold, or, a Platinum who hasn't reached 75 Nights might have that Platinum extended. Sometimes there's no rhyme or reason to it. If you're one of the "lucky" ones remember that it could be a double-edge sword because your Rollover Nights will be counted based on the status that's extended and not what's actually earned. For example, if you've accumulated 45 Nights then your status should officially be Silver with 35 Rollover Nights, but if Marriott grants you Gold then no Nights will roll over (because 45 is less than the 50 Gold requirement.)

*Year-end changeover and Rollover Nights accounting will take place during January but each may not take place on the same day - watch your accounts and feel free to give the rest of us a heads-up here if/when you're seeing changes.

I know I have been shorted a lot of nights from credit card spending, but when I contacted them they say it's all fine; they post on some different cycle.

GreenTea said:

I know I have been shorted a lot of nights from credit card spending, but when I contacted them they say it's all fine; they post on some different cycle.

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The Elite Nights for VISA spending aren't posted as each $3,000 is accrued. They're supposed to post each month within a few days of the once-a-month update of your Chase VISA billing. So the spending Nights should always be current through the last monthly update, not the total spend to date. (Accruals for stays are different, the Elite Nights for those should post concurrent with the MRP postings which usually happen within a few days of check-out.)

If the Elite Nights for your VISA spends are not current at this point through the November monthly update then you should make use of the "communitymanager" contact at the Insiders forum; details are in Post #8 in the TUG thread that I linked in my first post here.

I thought roll over nts, were a function of your current status; i.e. if you are gold and accumulate 40 nts, then none roll over. You seem to be saying 30 nts would roll over. I hope you're right...

frankhi said:

I thought roll over nts, were a function of your current status; i.e. if you are gold and accumulate 40 nts, then none roll over. You seem to be saying 30 nts would roll over. I hope you're right...

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That is correct. It is based on your current status. Not just what you would qualify to. So if you are gold and only get 40 nights, 0 roll over. Just because you will end up silver in 2015, it doesn't mean that 30 roll over (40-10).

dioxide45 said:

That is correct. It is based on your current status. Not just what you would qualify to. So if you are gold and only get 40 nights, 0 roll over. Just because you will end up silver in 2015, it doesn't mean that 30 roll over (40-10).

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Oh no!

frankhi said:

I thought roll over nts, were a function of your current status; i.e. if you are gold and accumulate 40 nts, then none roll over. You seem to be saying 30 nts would roll over. I hope you're right...

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No, I'm trying to say the same thing you are. I edited the equation but if you point out something different that's confusing, I'll try to re-word it so that it's more easily understood.

No matter how many MD's, PhD's, engineering degrees etc you have (I don't have any).....figuring out how rollover nights from last year impact you this year will make your head spin.

I just go by.... "Rollover nights don't rollover". Fortunately, they are separate now when viewing elite night totals.

One of the nice things about being lifetime Platinum is that you don't have to worry about any of this any longer.

Agreed. I got mine this summer.

BocaBoy said:

One of the nice things about being lifetime Platinum is that you don't have to worry about any of this any longer.

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BocaBoy said:

One of the nice things about being lifetime Platinum is that you don't have to worry about any of this any longer.

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This will never be the case for us. So always working the roll over nights.

BocaBoy said:

One of the nice things about being lifetime Platinum is that you don't have to worry about any of this any longer.

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YES! Same.

Aloha
We made Lifetime Plat early 2014 also. Great not looking for the last one or two nights at year end! There were a few end of the year nights at the local Towne Suites over the years.

Lifetime Platinum still some years away unfortunately.
Next year though, I will go from Lifetime Silver to Lifetime Gold which gives me most of the real benefits I am seeking.
So I too will be less concerned about chasing the Platinum renewal each year in future.

We are not quite at Lifetime Platinum, but I no longer have to worry about it. We just secured Platinum for next year, and now, pretty much with the credit card bonus nights alone we will make it to Lifetime Platinum next year.

Interesting thing for us though, we are going to pass both the night and point thresholds at nearly the same time. I noticed that alot of members here are lopsided one way or the other.

Congratulations on Lifetime Status and a consideration

First of all, I want to congratulate everyone that has achieved Lifetime Status and hope you enjoy it's benefits. I want to offer a suggestion for consideration for you once you have achieved that milestone. If your SPOUSE does not also have that status, it will be lost in the event that something happens to you. Especially those of you that have achieved Lifetime Platinum, I would suggest you start working on status for your spouse so that you both have that benefit in the event of a tragic loss. We would be at Lifetime Gold but since the account was in my husband's name, the elite status is not available to me even though all of our nights were earned with our joint travel. I am now starting over. There is nothing I can do for my situation, but especially for those of you that are young and healthy, it is something to consider.

dioxide45 said:

This will never be the case for us. So always working the roll over nights.

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Me too. I will eventually hit the nights but I will probably never have enough MRP's.

Toppermom said:

First of all, I want to congratulate everyone that has achieved Lifetime Status and hope you enjoy it's benefits. I want to offer a suggestion for consideration for you once you have achieved that milestone. If your SPOUSE does not also have that status, it will be lost in the event that something happens to you. Especially those of you that have achieved Lifetime Platinum, I would suggest you start working on status for your spouse so that you both have that benefit in the event of a tragic loss. We would be at Lifetime Gold but since the account was in my husband's name, the elite status is not available to me even though all of our nights were earned with our joint travel. I am now starting over. There is nothing I can do for my situation, but especially for those of you that are young and healthy, it is something to consider.

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Does anyone agree with this and if so are you implementing this strategy? Sounds like a good idea, but what if Marriott comes up with another more premium status level - that requires 1500 nights and 4 million points or something?

Wally3433 said:

Does anyone agree with this and if so are you implementing this strategy? Sounds like a good idea, but what if Marriott comes up with another more premium status level - that requires 1500 nights and 4 million points or something?

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The only problem with it is that you won't be getting any of the benefits of the platinum or gold status that you earned. No extra 25-50%, no arrival gift, no potential upgrades.

With all due respect, the only difference is the "automatic" benefits. It would seem to me that everyone that has achieved the lifetime status has been gold or platinum every year due to their travel patterns over time. One could always use TS property stays to get elite nights and use the spouse's lifetime status for hotel stays if necessary.

If we all had crystal balls, we would be able to strategize more accurately for the future…

Nyla

SueDonJ; According to this marriott.com page the Rollover Nights promotion is continuing through at least 2016: [URL="https://www.marriott.com/marriott/eliterollover.mi" said:

Elite Rollover Nights[/URL]

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Following the OP's link, what it says today is "Rollover is now permanent".

bazzap said:

Lifetime Platinum still some years away unfortunately. Next year though, I will go from Lifetime Silver to Lifetime Gold which gives me most of the real benefits I am seeking.
So I too will be less concerned about chasing the Platinum renewal each year in future.

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Hi, sorry for my english (traslate to google).
may be OT, but overall is a speech that I want to explain here.

The benefits of silver are virtually nonexistent. The benefits of gold are so small that when I was gold, I have not even evaluated. Starwood program (of which are gold lifetime), has virtually the benefits equivalent to the benefits of a marriott platinum.
I do not agree with the fact that Marriott has lowered the requirements for lifetime. Now, it is really affordable for everyone and when something loses exclusivity becomes minimal benefit.
One other thing that, in Europe, really makes me furious is that Marriott continues to acquire brands, but in which they are not entitled to the benefits for platinum. For example AC Hotels offers nothing even if you're platinum: no breakfast, no platinum gift (unless you want to consider a gift platinum saucer with 5/6 slices of cheese poor), room upgrades nonexistent (no suites) , Lounge even thinking about it.
Renaissance: Some are and some are not!
I was platinum in the last three years, and I took advantage of the real benefits only in the 10/20% of the structures.

Another thing that makes me furious, is the request for an integration in cash, on the categories 9. What Every year increases the categories and hotels go from one level to another, "strangely" ever upward, has severely depleted the value of the points.
I think it's a good thing if all Marriott members (especially those of us who hold MVCI) asking a contract in which the points of trading for points were to maintain the same vaolre on certain categories of hotels.
The hotels that are now category 9, in 2006 were all category 7 pts 35,000 / night).
With 150,000 MRP could stay 7 nights (eg Paris Champs Élysées), because there was a system to scale. Today in a category 9 (always Paris Champs Élysées) for 7 nights ask me 270,000 pts.
If I exchange with trading points for both my week Pais Ile de France (100,000 MRP) and Marbella Beach club (90,000 MRP), before I could do eight nights, and I were advancing MRP 5000, today I make just five, and I advance 10.0000 MRP).
We are talking about the same situations: same weeks MVCI exchanged for points to spend in the same hotels.
What I mean is that Marriott lowers lifetime, but in fact increases the MF's and reduces the value of the points.
And this thing is not ethically and morally correct.
I'd be curious to imagine a strike TOTAL in the payment of the MF's for a year, as a form of pressure to convince Marriottt to rethink certain corporate decisions

Paolo

Hi Paolo
I follow some of what you say, especially on Marriott Rewards points devaluation.
I agree Silver Elite benefits are very limited (fortunately, being Lifetime Silver currently is just about meaningless for me, as I have earned Platinum Elite status for many years now.
I do believe Gold Elite status is worthwhile though as for me it offers most of the important benefits common with Platinum Elite status, so I will welcome Lifetime Gold status.
I would be surprised if most people believed that requirements for Lifetime are now affordable for everyone, it is taking me many, many years to achieve anyway.
As for new Marriott brands, yes It might be great to have the benefits at for example the AC hotels, but I doubt it would be practical.
We started using them last year and find them to be a very convenient, good value option in Spain.
As they are typically smaller and cheaper than mainstream Marriott's it is difficult to see how they could have the space or budget for Exec Lounges or even offer free breakfasts at their price point.
We have had room upgrades and stocked minibars though.

It used to be, not that long ago, that Marriott timeshare stays didn't count as stays. When Marriott changed that it put higher elite level benefits within reach.

Brian

pwrshift said:

It used to be, not that long ago, that Marriott timeshare stays didn't count as stays. When Marriott changed that it put higher elite level benefits within reach.

Brian

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Actually, it's been six years. June 30, 2008 is when they started to count timeshare stays. Seems like yesterday.