You're Being Lied to About Electric Cars

[easyrider]

Many of the younger gen that I have met have been trained / brainwashed to think driving IS difficult & taxing.

I'm not seeing this sentiment where we live. Most of the young here want and need to drive.

The sentiment regarding ev's with most demographics in our area is they are complete crap with the exception of golf carts at the golf course.

Bill

 

[WaikikiFirst]

'm not seeing this sentiment where we live

You live in the "boonies". Give me your zip code. I will look up a "walkability Score" for you. Whatever zillow calls it. I will look up the population density there.
How much time do you spend in a major urban area?
How much time do you spend nr a college campus in a major urban area?
What % of Americans do you think live in major urban areas?
ever been to BERKELEY? Cambridge?

 

[davidvel]

What an asshat.

 

[easyrider]

You live in the "boonies".

You call it boonies, I call it a suburb. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

Even so, I am very familiar with Seattle and Portland but wouldn't want to live there. I'm guessing you live in a city where you can walk to work. The thing about that is living in a highly populated area can reduce a person's lifespan and is often detrimental to a person's health. No one wants to live on a campus with the exception of those attending the institution connected to the campus, imo.

If your argument is pro-ev in the larger cities you might want to go outside and count cars. My bet is you will count thousands of internal combustion vehicles per EV. If your argument is people can just walk you need to factor in that people will only walk so far before using transportation which is mainly the internal combustion type.

Bill

 

[WaikikiFirst]

You call it boonies, I call it a suburb. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

I am sure it is a great place to live.
How much time do you spend in a major urban area?
How much time do you spend nr a college campus in a major urban area?
What % of Americans do you think live in major urban areas?
ever been to BERKELEY? Cambridge?

 

[Chrispee]

The thing about that is living in a highly populated area can reduce a person's lifespan and is often detrimental to a person's health.

The data shows the opposite of what you're asserting. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34999859/

As someone who moved from city to rural, I can agree that there are aspects of city life that could contribute to poor health. One of those things is poor air quality. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32123898/

 

[WaikikiFirst]

go outside and count cars. My bet is you will count thousands of internal combustion vehicles per EV

and ... you'd be wrong. Come on down. I'll meet you in Palo Alto. We'll count cars. It'll be fun.
"thousands"? "hundreds"? "tens"? "> 10x"? I like my odds. "< 10x"? Now we've got a horse race.
Want to try buses? GONG! Wrong again.

the data must be avail by zip code or at least county somewhere, esp data for CA. Maybe one of the local experts has it?

 

[easyrider]

The data shows the opposite of what you're asserting. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34999859/

As someone who moved from city to rural, I can agree that there are aspects of city life that could contribute to poor health. One of those things is poor air quality. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32123898/

When using the term "rural" I'm thinking we are talking about an area located many miles away from city infrastructures. When using the term 'suburb' I'm thinking we are talking about an area close but outside of the main city infrastructures. When using the term "inner city" I'm thinking this is the most populated area of the city where a person can walk to the places they would need to.

Depending on the area of the city, a person could be living in a very nice zone or a not so nice zone which includes those filled with crime. There is a difference in lifespan between the zones within a city. The highly populated inner city zones probably have an overall lower lifespan percentage than all areas, imo. These are areas where the crime is high and poverty rampant.

Bill

 

[easyrider]

and ... you'd be wrong. Come on down. I'll meet you in Palo Alto. We'll count cars. It'll be fun.
"thousands"? "hundreds"? "tens"? "> 10x"? I like my odds. "< 10x"? Now we've got a horse race.
Want to try buses? GONG! Wrong again.

the data must be avail by zip code or at least county somewhere, esp data for CA. Maybe one of the local experts has it?

Yes, there are some areas where ev's thrive. The California Coast is one of them. My bet would be using I-5 in Southern California if I can Cherry pick a location. This is where I've noticed more internal combustion vehicles than ev's even though there are many more ev's in this area than most, imo. Your Cherry pick is Palo Alto which might as well be a Tesla parking lot, lol.

Bill

 

[WaikikiFirst]

Your Cherry pick is Palo Alto

sure. But it is not a cherry-pick. You said I should go outside and count cars. If I count in MY neighborhood, the EV # would be far higher than in Palo Alto I think.
I chose Palo Alto, bigger city, you've heard of it. If you count here, you might think Ford went out of business 20 yrs ago and Rivian is one of "The Big 3". and they all look alike. I think Rivian must have only 1 model.

It is funny to drive around and see so many Rivians and then read a headline about Rivian stock being down and the look and see a $13 stock. I guess it spiked up to $17 now.

A half-dozen yrs ago, someone drove by when I was in our driveway, stopped, and asked me something like "do you know where the guy with the Tesla lives?". Seriously. I could only laugh and ask "which one of the dozen Teslas from here to that next bend in the road".

We'll go to Huntington Bch, S Barbara, S Jose, Alameda, even San Luis Obispo. Your choice. Let's go.

 

[Ralph Sir Edward]

I am sure it is a great place to live.
How much time do you spend in a major urban area?
How much time do you spend nr a college campus in a major urban area?
What % of Americans do you think live in major urban areas?
ever been to BERKELEY? Cambridge?

Actually, it is a great place to live by my standards.

I go into my back yard and see birds, lizards, butterflies, bees, and squirrels.
I smell the roses in my yard; enjoy the cannas, phlox, daylilies and hibiscuses, as well as many other flowering plants.
The noise level is much lower than in a highly urbanized area.
Me and my ICE can go anywhere we want; any time. NO wasting time waiting for public transportation.

But it's a free country (or so they say); you live your way, I'll live mine. . .