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Wyndham Use Year Alignment

A.Win said:
I have 154,000 points at Margaritaville. The expiration date was 3/31/2021. Now they combined this with my 12/31/2021 points. I feel like I just lost 9 months of value from my ownership. Seems to me that they should let me have 154K expiring 3/31/21 PLUS another 154K expiring 12/31/21.

Is this the correct and normal way to handle use year alignment? Or should I call to complain? Thanks.
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And again, I repeat by asking what happened to the points that were set to expire on 3/31/20? You should have received your 2020 points on 4/1/2019. Where are those points?

So the points that expire on 3/31/2021 are your 2021 points. So changing them to 12/31/2021 really just kept them as the same use year.

If you didn't know, Wyndham counts a use year on the last day of the use year as opposed to on the first day of the use year. Does it makes sense? No.
 
The way I read the contract, Annual Fee is due in advance in its entirety. Monthly payment via Autopay is just a convenience extended to us.
My PIC weeks allow payment in 2 installments just like property taxes. They do offer monthly autopay but I haven't found out if there's any convenience fee.
I pay my AAA Insurance annually. They do offer installment plans with a convenience fee.

So viewing MF as a monthly item is a figment of our imagination. See, I found a way to rationalize the extra MF that has been swindled out of me!;)
 
bendadin said:
And again, I repeat by asking what happened to the points that were set to expire on 3/31/20? You should have received your 2020 points on 4/1/2019. Where are those points?

So the points that expire on 3/31/2021 are your 2021 points. So changing them to 12/31/2021 really just kept them as the same use year.

If you didn't know, Wyndham counts a use year on the last day of the use year as opposed to on the first day of the use year. Does it makes sense? No.
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That's how a Fiscal year has always been called when it doesn't coincide with a calendar year! Perfectly normal! That's how EVERYBODY does it!
 
SNA27 said:
The way I read the contract, Annual Fee is due in advance in its entirety. Monthly payment via Autopay is just a convenience extended to us.
My PIC weeks allow payment in 2 installments just like property taxes. They do offer monthly autopay but I haven't found out if there's any convenience fee.
I pay my AAA Insurance annually. They do offer installment plans with a convenience fee.

So viewing MF as a monthly item is a figment of our imagination. See, I found a way to rationalize the extra MF that has been swindled out of me!;)
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My understanding is that converted fixed weeks are paid in advance in its entirety. UDI and CWA are paid for the current calendar year in installments.
 
bendadin said:
And again, I repeat by asking what happened to the points that were set to expire on 3/31/20? You should have received your 2020 points on 4/1/2019. Where are those points?

So the points that expire on 3/31/2021 are your 2021 points. So changing them to 12/31/2021 really just kept them as the same use year.

If you didn't know, Wyndham counts a use year on the last day of the use year as opposed to on the first day of the use year. Does it makes sense? No.
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They way it should work on a April 1st use year start. The deed shows up 12/16/2019. All points available are 2020 use year points and they should expire 3/2020 but on a use year alignment Wyndham extends the expiration on these points to 12/2020.The 2021 points should have renewed on 4/2020 but get pushed into a new start date of 1/2021. Bottom line @A.Win is going to pay 9 months of maintenance fees on points that got pushed into 2021. This is because of a non prorating of points and clearly is to Wyndham's advantage.IMHO
 
@dgalati I wonder if both you and I are on Wyndham's crap list.
 
tschwa2 said:
My understanding is that converted fixed weeks are paid in advance in its entirety. UDI and CWA are paid for the current calendar year in installments.
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The contract I excerpted from is my 84k WBC UDI contract!
 
Grammarhero said:
@dgalati I wonder if both you and I are on Wyndham's crap list.
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All I know is if I want to be an Owner, I should buy Wyndham Destinations on a dip. Seems like they respond better to their share holder Owners than timeshare owners.

Hey, and it comes with a 3+% dividend too!

Say, next Wyndham presentation, I am going to agree with the sales staff and tell them I will be an owner alright...

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Grammarhero said:
@dgalati I wonder if both you and I are on Wyndham's crap list.
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Yes! There is a PNG table in their database! You're shadow-banned as on Twitter! You won't even know you got a timeout so you can complain about it!:D

*PNG = Persona Non Grata
I will get the details of this Table and edit this post! Stay Tuned! You will be shocked and awed!:D
 
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Fredflintstone said:
All I know is if I want to be an Owner, I should buy Wyndham Destinations on a dip. Seems like they respond better to their share holder Owners than timeshare owners.

Hey, and it comes with a 3+% dividend too!

Say, next Wyndham presentation, I am going to agree with the sales staff and tell them I will be an owner alright...

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I buy gaming stocks check out LVS and WYNN. Nice divi and as they say the house always wins!
 
I had posted this on 12/8 on a thread nobody cared about!:( Did anyone go for the dividend play?

Anyone buying WYND for the dividend?
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I missed out on this! Ex-Div plus gains!

Letting “I dare not” wait upon “I would”,
Like the poor cat in the adage?

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Ok, now we're officially on a tangent! Freddie did it!;)
 
tschwa2,
I had this happen to me wrt Flagstaff FW which was in the process of conversion to Points. I received the Annual dues bill from Flagstaff HOA and I was going to pay them. I didn't know how things worked then. I just decided to call Sedona QA to better understand the process. She told me not to pay the bill. Wyndham will take care of it. I just have to pay Wyndham monthly along with program fees.

I don't like the idea of learning the details of a process as it's unfolding. Wyndham could do better to demystify the process by disclosing all the detailed steps!
 
SNA27 said:
tschwa2,
I had this happen to me wrt Flagstaff FW which was in the process of conversion to Points. I received the Annual dues bill from Flagstaff HOA and I was going to pay them. I didn't know how things worked then. I just decided to call Sedona QA to better understand the process. She told me not to pay the bill. Wyndham will take care of it. I just have to pay Wyndham monthly along with program fees.

I don't like the idea of learning the details of a process as it's unfolding. Wyndham could do better to demystify the process by disclosing all the detailed steps!
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I agree. Why not make the Owners entitlements simple, transparent and clear?I find the jargon makes the points systems complex, blurry and unclear.




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SNA27 said:
Kinky!;)

What's up with 'Counting Right on Birthday Date!'. Didn't get that!

Totally un-PC! Where's my safe space!:D
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You get hit by the number of your age on your birthday.
 
The points that expire on 3/31/2020 have been received and used. There is no issue there. The problem is that I was to receive more points expiring 3/31/21 and 3/31/22. But now those points are pushed back 9 months. Meanwhile, my MFs are being paid each and every month.
 
A.Win said:
The points that expire on 3/31/2020 have been received and used. There is no issue there. The problem is that I was to receive more points expiring 3/31/21 and 3/31/22. But now those points are pushed back 9 months. Meanwhile, my MFs are being paid each and every month.
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Unfortunately Wyndham has used the use year alignment and non proration to their advantage.
 
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