Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events

[comicbookman]

That's completely misleading, because:

1. Wyndham corporate is the majority owner at each and every one of these resorts which is closing
2. Wyndham initiated this process. Not on behest of actual owners, but based on internal corporate desire to do so

All this messaging is very misleading because if you read the statement and take it on face value, one would assume a grass roots group of owners, not corporate interests, initiated this process.

The idea that a large group of owners are clamoring for FEWER vacation options is beyond insulting... this was purely a cost savings measure by Wyndham.

Some Wyndham defenders will say that when the owners voted on whether or not to go through with the bankruptcy, you will find that the vote of owners was overwhelming to move forward with this, some of those people just want out. But regardless, the vote was purely ceremonial/procedural. They already had the numbers.

Actually, you seem to be ignoring the fact that Wyndham is an OWNER. so what you are saying is that their desires don't count because they are corporate. That would seem to imply that your groups desires shoulndt count either because you act together and not as individual owners. It sounds like a double standard is in effect.

EDIT: Not to imply I am happy about what is happening. I own at Glade Have been to BB and star island a couple of times and can't count the number of times I have been to PP and Skyline. on top of that we were considering lake lure this summer.

 

[Floridaman76]

Actually, you seem to be ignoring the fact that Wyndham is an OWNER. so what you are saying is that their desires don't count because they are corporate. That would seem to imply that your groups desires shoulndt count either because you act together and not as individual owners. It sounds like a double standard is in effect.

EDIT: Not to imply I am happy about what is happening. I own at Glade Have been to BB and star island a couple of times and can't count the number of times I have been to PP and Skyline. on top of that we were considering lake lure this summer.

Wyndham is an owner with an extreme conflict of interest, say it for what it is.

I guess at this point, I just wonder what, if anything we are going to get back. Other than the 3 alleged ones they've kind of made public.

 

[ThomasinaTimeTRP]

I received my docusign documents. Can anyone explain what joining Club Wyndham Plus means? If I don't join club Wyndham plus, can I make points reservations? I don't want to agree to something if I don't understand it.

At the very bottom of the document, it says I can't participate in Pathway Program. Does that mean I'm eligible for certified exit, or nothing?

I don't trust wyndham to tell me the truth, so I hope someone can help me!

 

[schreff]

Still no answer to my question posed to one of Michael Brown's assistants of which was also forwarded to the CWA website. A basic question is that do you have 4 individual choices to make if you own 4 deeded weeks affected by the closures? Or is it one offer-take it or leave it. Legally, it would seem to be 4 offers but knowing Wyndham I would not be surprised if it is a combined offer. Your thoughts please.

 

[ThomasinaTimeTRP]

Could someone also explain this one?
Is Assessments different than maintenance fees? In the past, the word assessment meant a one time payment to pay for unexpected large expenses etc. Is the mentioned "pay for my ownership under the agreement" only if i owed money on a purchase?

 

[ThomasinaTimeTRP]

Still no answer to my question posed to one of Michael Brown's assistants of which was also forwarded to the CWA website. A basic question is that do you have 4 individual choices to make if you own 4 deeded weeks affected by the closures? Or is it one offer-take it or leave it. Legally, it would seem to be 4 offers but knowing Wyndham I would not be surprised if it is a combined offer. Your thoughts please.

i just received three docu sign emails, one for each contract I had, two at OIRC and one at Ocean Ridge.

 

[bnoble]

I received my docusign documents. Can anyone explain what joining Club Wyndham Plus means? If I don't join club Wyndham plus, can I make points reservations? I don't want to agree to something if I don't understand it.

At the very bottom of the document, it says I can't participate in Pathway Program. Does that mean I'm eligible for certified exit, or nothing?

Club Wyndham Plus is the name of the points program. "Joining" it means owning (and being able to use) points. Pathways was a very short-lived program that promised to buy back developer-purchased points at some fraction of the sales price, and almost no one is eligible for it.

And in this case "Assessments" is just the monthly payment of MFs plus the Program Fee (but I suspect there is a Definitions section that says something like this.)

 

[dioxide45]

Could someone also explain this one?
Is Assessments different than maintenance fees? In the past, the word assessment meant a one time payment to pay for unexpected large expenses etc. Is the mentioned "pay for my ownership under the agreement" only if i owed money on a purchase?


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Think of these as the maintenance fees on the points that are collected monthly.

 

[lordfoul72]

Q: What happens to Wyndham points moved into RCI prior to the impacted contract(s) being removed from my account?

A: The answer depends on whether your account will or will not remain active after the impacted contract(s) are removed from your account. If your account only contains impacted contract(s) and you elect not to take the swap offer(s), then your account with Wyndham will become inactive sometime after 12/31/2025. This means you will no longer be a member of Club Wyndham with an account in good standing, since your account no longer contains any active contract(s). If an owner is no long a member of the Club due to no active contracts, then the RCI membership will become inactive resulting in a loss of any remaining points in the RCI account. If there are any existing RCI reservations booked, those will remain as is and the inactive RCI account will then close after that vacation date has passed. If however, your account still holds active contract(s) after 12/31/2025, then your Club account will remain active, and your RCI account will remain active, including any/all reservations made within RCI.

Sorry to ask for clarity - but I wanted to figure out the veracity of this line in the OP. We have just the Bentley Brook contract and will not be converting it. We have two trips booked next year using RCI points, one in February and one in June. This implies that those will remain and we can expect to have accommodations as expected? Are there any other implications for this - continued maintenance fees or anything else? Should we be reaching out to RCI or the resorts themselves to confirm any of this?

 

[Floridaman76]

How many times do you think you need to repeat yourself in a thread that is already 4,200 posts long?

You must really like to hear yourself talk... thanks for your super constructive post.

Repeating the same concerns which to date have largely been unanswered.

Again, thanks for the super helpful and necessary post.

 

[Floridaman76]

I received my docusign documents. Can anyone explain what joining Club Wyndham Plus means? If I don't join club Wyndham plus, can I make points reservations? I don't want to agree to something if I don't understand it.

At the very bottom of the document, it says I can't participate in Pathway Program. Does that mean I'm eligible for certified exit, or nothing?

I don't trust wyndham to tell me the truth, so I hope someone can help me!

Club Wyndham Plus IS the points plan

Pathways was a program they no longer offer which they would actually pay you to exit. It's not certified exit.

 

[CO skier]

Repeating the same concerns which to date have largely been unanswered.

The concerns have been answered, repeatedly:

1) Wyndham (or any other developer that is closing resorts -- Silverleaf resorts with Holiday Inn Vacation Club) is under no obligation to subsidize has-been resorts, or supply "replacement" resorts, especially in areas that are not drawing sufficient interest from owners at existing resorts.

2) What would any prudent owner who pays maintenance fees on more points than they can use do? Sell-off some points down to their usage level. That is all that Wyndham is doing by closing the affected resorts.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Still no answer to my question posed to one of Michael Brown's assistants of which was also forwarded to the CWA website. A basic question is that do you have 4 individual choices to make if you own 4 deeded weeks affected by the closures? Or is it one offer-take it or leave it. Legally, it would seem to be 4 offers but knowing Wyndham I would not be surprised if it is a combined offer. Your thoughts please.

My understanding is that the CWA swap offers are unique to each contract, so if you have four impacted contracts, you can make the swap decision for each of the four contracts. I think this is what you're asking, and am happy to validate with Wyndham if it would help.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Could someone also explain this one?
Is Assessments different than maintenance fees? In the past, the word assessment meant a one time payment to pay for unexpected large expenses etc. Is the mentioned "pay for my ownership under the agreement" only if i owed money on a purchase?


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It might help to consult the online Club Wyndham glossary here: https://clubwyndham.wyndhamdestinations.com/us/en/help/glossary

So in answer to your question about Assessments:

It is not a Special Assessment, which is what you're alluding to in your post - meaning the one time Special Assessments for large unexpected expenses that the reserve fund cannot cover.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Q: What happens to Wyndham points moved into RCI prior to the impacted contract(s) being removed from my account?

A: The answer depends on whether your account will or will not remain active after the impacted contract(s) are removed from your account. If your account only contains impacted contract(s) and you elect not to take the swap offer(s), then your account with Wyndham will become inactive sometime after 12/31/2025. This means you will no longer be a member of Club Wyndham with an account in good standing, since your account no longer contains any active contract(s). If an owner is no long a member of the Club due to no active contracts, then the RCI membership will become inactive resulting in a loss of any remaining points in the RCI account. If there are any existing RCI reservations booked, those will remain as is and the inactive RCI account will then close after that vacation date has passed. If however, your account still holds active contract(s) after 12/31/2025, then your Club account will remain active, and your RCI account will remain active, including any/all reservations made within RCI.

Sorry to ask for clarity - but I wanted to figure out the veracity of this line in the OP. We have just the Bentley Brook contract and will not be converting it. We have two trips booked next year using RCI points, one in February and one in June. This implies that those will remain and we can expect to have accommodations as expected? Are there any other implications for this - continued maintenance fees or anything else? Should we be reaching out to RCI or the resorts themselves to confirm any of this?

That guidance is direct from Wyndham - almost verbatim. So to answer your question, yes, if you do not choose the swap offer, and this action eliminates all contract(s) from your Wyndham acccount, you are no longer a member in good standing. The understanding is that if an owner has already moved points into RCI and has existing reservations booked, in this specific case, your RCI account will also be made inactive after 12/31/2025, however your RCI account will not be closed until those reservations/bookings have passed (until the accommodations been consumed). I'm not aware of any other implications - such as continued MFs. As always, each scenario is somewhat unique, so I cannot promise any specific outcome. If you have questions, contact the dedicated team for these actions and ask your questions to be sure (contact info is in the 1st post of this thread in the FAQ section).

 

[HitchHiker71]

With letters out I’m still questioning how much of the legal steps needed are done. While the hoa’s have voted to file for bankruptcy what steps have followed that. Very specifically the Depuy Village at Shawnee voted on Oct 18 to cease operations 12/31/25 and to file for bankruptcy. A letter was sent to Depuy Village owners Nov 20,2025 indicating deeds were extinguished and they were offering two options( exchange for CWA POINTS or do nothing and await a portion of sales proceeds. That’s all fine but has the Depuy village bankruptcy been filed and has the court actually accepted it.Very fundamental and can anyone confirm the filing and court acceptance at Depuy Village?

We are tracking resort activities in the tracker table in the 1st post of this thread - and I post updates periodically into this thread and tell interested parties to check the table for updates when applicable. The bankruptcies are all being tracked by Omni - and we post the explicit Omni document tracking links into the tracker table as soon as we collectively become aware that a new filing has occurred. We do not yet have a filing posted for Depuy or any other impacted Shawnee HOA at this time.

 

[dioxide45]

Q: What happens to Wyndham points moved into RCI prior to the impacted contract(s) being removed from my account?

A: The answer depends on whether your account will or will not remain active after the impacted contract(s) are removed from your account. If your account only contains impacted contract(s) and you elect not to take the swap offer(s), then your account with Wyndham will become inactive sometime after 12/31/2025. This means you will no longer be a member of Club Wyndham with an account in good standing, since your account no longer contains any active contract(s). If an owner is no long a member of the Club due to no active contracts, then the RCI membership will become inactive resulting in a loss of any remaining points in the RCI account. If there are any existing RCI reservations booked, those will remain as is and the inactive RCI account will then close after that vacation date has passed. If however, your account still holds active contract(s) after 12/31/2025, then your Club account will remain active, and your RCI account will remain active, including any/all reservations made within RCI.

Sorry to ask for clarity - but I wanted to figure out the veracity of this line in the OP. We have just the Bentley Brook contract and will not be converting it. We have two trips booked next year using RCI points, one in February and one in June. This implies that those will remain and we can expect to have accommodations as expected? Are there any other implications for this - continued maintenance fees or anything else? Should we be reaching out to RCI or the resorts themselves to confirm any of this?

That answer kinda half answers the question. It doesn't fully explain what happens if you have 2026 points on deposit from a property that is being closed. If we take the above at face value, as long as you have some other active contract or you used those 2026 points for an exchange, then your RCI account will remain open for you to use them.

Based on the verbiage used, you would still be able to travel and upon completion of your last travel date, the RCI account would be closed. The question is, did you use 2026 points for these reservations. It may not matter, but the answer doesn't take into account what use year the points are from. For 2026 points, RCI is not going to get an actual deposit to back up those points you are using for the exchange.

 

[carlbarry]

Has the question of what happens to banked points been addressed? I haven't seen that mentioned. Do we lose all our banked points?

 

[HitchHiker71]

Has the question of what happens to banked points been addressed? I haven't seen that mentioned. Do we lose all our banked points?

If you have banked 2025 points, to which you were already entitled, then you are fine, unless your Wyndham account only consists of impacted contracts, and you refuse the swap offer for all impacted contracts, in which case you will have zero valid contracts left in your account come 1/1/2026, and therefore your account will no longer be in good standing with Wyndham, and will be inactivated, after which all points will be relinquished. If however, you still have an active Wyndham account come 1/1/2026, again, you should be fine with regard to banked points.

 

[Arimaas]

If you have banked 2025 points, to which you were already entitled, then you are fine, unless your Wyndham account only consists of impacted contracts, and you refuse the swap offer for all impacted contracts, in which case you will have zero valid contracts left in your account come 1/1/2026, and therefore your account will no longer be in good standing with Wyndham, and will be inactivated, after which all points will be relinquished. If however, you still have an active Wyndham account come 1/1/2026, again, you should be fine with regard to banked points.

I would add this caveat - your 2026 and 2027 accounts, with the banked points, are going to have whatever the value of the contract is that's being lost deducted from the point bank. So don't think what your account says you have for 2026 and 2027 right now because of banked points is what it will be on Jan 1, 2026.

Also, kinda messed up that if you banked your points, you can't use them if you don't have any other contracts. But again, we beat that horse too.

 

[HitchHiker71]

I would add this caveat - your 2026 and 2027 accounts, with the banked points, are going to have whatever the value of the contract is that's being lost deducted from the point bank. So don't think what your account says you have for 2026 and 2027 right now because of banked points is what it will be on Jan 1, 2026.

Also, kinda messed up that if you banked your points, you can't use them if you don't have any other contracts. But again, we beat that horse too.

Yes, that's correct, and a good addition. Is this something we should add to the FAQ? If so, I'll go ahead and add this topic as well. I did bring up the idea of allowing impacted owners that fall into the inactivated account status come 1/1/2026 to remain active by simply keeping their 2026 dues already paid - to then keep existing reservations at least for the 2026 use year - but that didn't go anywhere unfortunately. Not sure why, I'd imagine there may be accounting complexities and potentially other complexities or risks involved in that scenario, but that's just speculation on my part.

 

[carlbarry]

I would add this caveat - your 2026 and 2027 accounts, with the banked points, are going to have whatever the value of the contract is that's being lost deducted from the point bank. So don't think what your account says you have for 2026 and 2027 right now because of banked points is what it will be on Jan 1, 2026.

Also, kinda messed up that if you banked your points, you can't use them if you don't have any other contracts. But again, we beat that horse too.

I don't understand. I have a 49,000 point contract for Star Island. I will accept CWA. My account is showing 49,000 points for 2026; that means I'll be issued those points on January 1. My account also shows for 2027 98,000 points. That is 49,000 to be issued on January 1, 2027, plus 49,000 I banked this year.
My question is, what happens to those 49,000 banked points? Will they be accessible through CWA in 2027?

 

[HitchHiker71]

I don't understand. I have a 49,000 point contract for Star Island. I will accept CWA. My account is showing 49,000 points for 2026; that means I'll be issued those points on January 1. My account also shows for 2027 98,000 points. That is 49,000 to be issued on January 1, 2027, plus 49,000 I banked this year.
My question is, what happens to those 49,000 banked points? Will they be accessible through CWA in 2027?

If you are accepting the swap, then nothing will change. You're good to go.

 

[HitchHiker71]

I don't think the percentage of affected people taking the CWA conversion will be in the single digits, but definitly no more than 40%

I'd surmise it's in that range as well, somewhere around the 50% range, with a plus or minus 10% swing in either direction.

But I have been chastised for criticizing them for the awful communications, and here we are at "T-minus 30 days" more or less, and the communications to the general owner base is the same as it was approximately July 15th.

Even affected owners have not been completely communicated with yet.

Which is beyond pathetic.

We are far beyond the "just wait a few more days" window that has been promised since September.

We are in agreement that even the latest missive published last Saturday, to the best of my knowledge, has not yet been emailed to anyone. That was my expectation, and that doesn't appear to have been the case unfortunately. Relying informally on third parties like TUG or FB groups to publish this type of data is not good, there's no two ways about it. This is a failure on Wyndham's part if there's no broad communication to all Club Wyndham owners, especially this late in the game. Period, full stop.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Has anyone posted this Resort News item yet?

Resort Portfolio Refresh — Club Wyndham

Club Wyndham owners receive important updates about their resort collection and upcoming changes to the club portfolio.

clubwyndham.wyndhamdestinations.com

I knew this was coming, but didn't expect it until today. Still no email based broad communication to all Club Wyndham owners AFAIK. Disappointing to say the least. It's 12/1/2025 and we are literally only 30 days away from these resorts being removed from the system. Not good.

EDIT: I updated the tracker table with the link to this latest missive - right up top.