Hi Ron and all, It's me again. If you don't mind me asking a few stupid questions. I just bought 180K points (2 contracts) and got escrow closed near end of last year (starting low) and thought that it was a good deal since i got it almost practically free.
- when i checked into all the resorts on the west coast on the myclubwyndham.com (I am in California), there aren't many good resorts.
- The good ones, that I am interested, are all WorldMark or Wyndam Rewards, not ClubWyndham TS (which seems like a fault advertisement that they included in the map of available resorts).
- I checked into Honolulu, they don't even have a resort.
- Most of resorts, I have to book them 6 months or 8 months in advance to get the room on the week I wanted. The good resort that I wanted, not even 9 months. I don't even know when it will ever become available. :-(
- So, I ended up exchanging the 2015 to RCI, but (pooch!) RCI resorts are not great either. I now have 180K in RCI and 180K for 2016 that I don't know what I should used them for.
- I am trying to plan my family vacation 1 year ahead, which may has to be cancel (with penalty).
- Also, I just learned that the RESALE points cannot be convert to Wyndham Reward points.
It seems like the Wyhdham corporate is treating owners (especially the resale owners) with no respect. Why does anyone even want to own the Wyndham TS? Uhg! I must be missing something and don't understand. What do you do with all your millions of points?
Maybe I have been spoiled owning HGVC and DVC.
Thank you so much for posting / returning your opinions.
I am very new to Wyndham TS. Above are just my personal opinions. I apologize if my opinions offend anyone.
Your questions arent stupid, but they should have been asked before you made your first purchase
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(I) thought that it was a good deal since i got it almost practically free. I learned a long time ago that value has very little to do with price. And whats important or valuable to one person may not be to another
when i checked into all the resorts on the west coast on the myclubwyndham.com (I am in California), there aren't many good Here again what you think is "good" differs from what others think is good> Canterbury, Harbour Lights, Oceanside Pier, Indio, Anaheim, Angels Camp and the affiliate and associate properties The Queen Mary and Vino Bello properties are all quite nice. And move a little East to Tahoe,Las Vegas, Park City, and the resorts in Colorado, Arizona and New Mexico are ok as well> And for a Florida boy like myself, Texas seems like the West to me and there are resorts in San Antonio to visit, mot to mention the upper mid west, Chicago, Galena, and the Wisconsin Dells Now if by west you mean the Northwest states of Idaho, Montana, Washingto and Oregon you are exactly right, Thats Worldmark Country. but if you had taken the time to understand what the colored dots on the map mean, you would have knowm that too
(which seems like a fault advertisement that they included in the map of available resorts) I agree the map is confusing, but understand that the dots on the map and the map itself is not meant for you and me (resale buyers) the map is an advertisement designed to be shown to Wyndhams prospective customers that might buy directly from Wyndham> Maybe its my age, but again I learned a long time ago that ads have to be viewed with a little discretion. They dont always present the downside of any product. I know the first car I bought was advertised with a pretty girl sitting in the front seat. When I went to pick it up however, the girl wasnt included and when I went to the Drive-Inn to pick up girls, in my new car, It didnt work there either. So I ask you was that a problem with the car and the advertising,or a problem with me?
I checked into Honolulu, they don't even have a resort. There are two Club Wyndham resorts in Honolulu
Most of resorts, I have to book them 6 months or 8 months in advance to get the room on the week I wanted. The good resort that I wanted, not even 9 months. I don't even know when it will ever become available. There are lots of times at lots of resorts that will not be available except at 10 months...and some for which you will need Advanced Reservation Priority. (and by the way lots of weeks that cost a whole lot more than 182000 points) There are 500000 of us owners and only a limited number of units> No one can get what they want wnen they want it.. Thats the nature of a points based timeshare. You would have known this with a little due diligence before you bought anything> Timeshares are not for everyone, perhaps, not for you. Im sorry you waited until after committing to regular monthly maintenance fees to learn that
So, I ended up exchanging the 2015 to RCI, but (pooch!) RCI resorts are not great either. I now have 180K in RCI and 180K for 2016 that I don't know what I should used them for. There are lots and lots of resorts in RCI, If you cant find one or two that work for you; shame on you>But back to my point that should be clear by now. The list of RCI resorts was available to you before you purchased.. a little due diligence would have shown you whats available before you purchased
I am trying to plan my family vacation 1 year ahead, which may has to be cancel (with penalty). Wyndhams cancellation policy is really quite friendly to us owners, we can cancel without penalty, right up to 15 days before check in without penalty> Timeshares, in my opinion work very well for folks that can plan way ahead or those that dont have to plan at all (old farts like me that can pick up and go at the last minute if something that looks like fun becomes available)>> Folks tied to a school or work schedule not so much...at least thats my opinion
Also, I just learned that the RESALE points cannot be convert to Wyndham Reward points. I dot know what Wydham rewards points are or what they might be good for. I bought my Wyndham points for use at Wyndham resorts and from what I read here on TUG, thats the best use of Wyndham points. If its not clear,by now, let be be clear: I have no sympathy for someone that buys any product with out doing their due diligence.
It seems like the Wyhdham corporate is treating owners (especially the resale owners) with no respect. Why does anyone even want to own the Wyndham TS? Uhg! I must be missing something and don't understand. What do you do with all your millions of points?
I get treated with the utmost respect by Wydham by the folks on Sea Harbor Drive and at the resorts. and Im a resale owner. I have foumd in my long life that if I treat others with respect, thats what I get in return
Now regarding the folks that own millions of points> Painting with a really broad brush there are three general of owners when it comes to the size of our accounts> From what I see the folks with small accounts uses them for their own vacations and those with large accounts use them for their own vacations and maybe rent a little to at least partially offset their maintenance fees, ant those with the really large accounts have made at least a part time vacation rental business out of what they own
Ive met folks that use their points to reserve 2 to 3 months vacation time rather than buying a second home> That was my goal when I started, I couldnt afford a second home, but i could afford 2.5 million Wyndham points to give me 3 or 4 months in the Tennessee Hills, away from the Florida summer heat> and another 3,5 million to rent to offset my maintenance fees. Turned out Im not doig the second home thing, but the rentals went so well I made a business out of it, Ive owned as many as 30 million points and am making more money in my 70th year, than Ive made at any time in my life. But thats me.( and a few others here on TUG) most folks I think use their points to provide vacation accommodations for their family>
If Wyndham doesnt work for you sell it or give it away