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Wyndham Avon points ? 1 million points. I bid $8,500 on ebay and won and EXP Resale is the broker, they want me to send via paypal the 8500 now

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Broker has not sent me a copy of the interest I am buying just emails stating that it is 1 million points at this Avon Co home resort, also email that I will have 14 months advance reservation priority. Do I need a copy of the interest I am buying now before initial payment and are these folks legit?
 
How is their feedback? How long have they been on ebay? Do they have contact information?
 
pinhead1 said:
Broker has not sent me a copy of the interest I am buying just emails stating that it is 1 million points at this Avon Co home resort, also email that I will have 14 months advance reservation priority. Do I need a copy of the interest I am buying now before initial payment and are these folks legit?
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Can you post the link to the completed listing?
 
pinhead1 said:
Broker has not sent me a copy of the interest I am buying just emails stating that it is 1 million points at this Avon Co home resort, also email that I will have 14 months advance reservation priority. Do I need a copy of the interest I am buying now before initial payment and are these folks legit?
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All real estate contracts MUST be in writing and signed by all parties, therefore your bid is not binding until this actually occurs.

Personally I wouldn't send them a nickel until such time you can verify everything your questioning. Additionally, I would make sure that I pay for and use my own escrow agent to transfer everything and release the funds to the seller when the transfer is completed. Suggest using Legal Title Transfers. www.LTTransfers.com

Now the seller likely won't agree to this arrangement so just tell them to pound sand and also tell them to sell it to someone else instead. The seller seems to be in an extreme hurry to obtain your hard earned money.

Best of luck!









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TheTimeTraveler said:
All real estate contracts MUST be in writing and signed by all parties, therefore your bid is not binding until this actually occurs.

Personally I wouldn't send them a nickel until such time you can verify everything your questioning. Additionally, I would make sure that I pay for and use my own escrow agent to transfer everything and release the funds to the seller when the transfer is completed. Suggest using Legal Title Transfers. www.LTTransfers.com

Now the seller likely won't agree to this arrangement so just tell them to pound sand and also tell them to sell it to someone else instead. The seller seems to be in an extreme hurry to obtain your hard earned money.

Best of luck!
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This would prevent the OP from buying 99% of the timeshares listed on Ebay. Except for the purchase agreement/contract, that just isn't how Ebay auctions work for the larger listing agents in that space.
 
If the seller is exp.resale from ebay, the company is
Express Closing Firm, LLC
2200 E. Sunshine St., Ste 312
Springfield, MO 65804

They are legit, I bought from them on tug and on ebay before.

I am not familiar with Wyndham deed, if you have question about what you are buying/what they are selling, you should verify.
 
That is a LOT of money for a Wyndham contract. Most Wyndham contracts go for nearly free. Avon looks like it might have halfway decent maintenance fees (the last update in the TUG spreadsheet is from 3 years ago), but I’m still not seeing how 1 million points is worth $8,500…
 
The seller is legit in my experience. I purchased a Marriott Willow Ridge deed from them last year. No problems at all and everything was completed.
 
Fido Chuckwagon said:
That is a LOT of money for a Wyndham contract. Most Wyndham contracts go for nearly free. Avon looks like it might have halfway decent maintenance fees (the last update in the TUG spreadsheet is from 3 years ago), but I’m still not seeing how 1 million points is worth $8,500…
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Could be worth it if you plan to stay at Avon during the prime ski season. Its a very very difficult reservation to get unless you have the ARP at that resort.
 
Isn't this property also 100% Presidential Reserve?
 
I think so---and that adds some value to this ownership, because these points will be eligible for the PR booking windows at other resorts.

I can't do any looking for comps because for some reason my ebay account is pricing things in Malaysian Ringgits, and I can't figure out how to change it.
 
the OP was looking to purchase specifically to be able to ensure they could get a Christmas reservation at this resort (using pr 14mo window)
 
TheTimeTraveler said:
All real estate contracts MUST be in writing and signed by all parties, therefore your bid is not binding until this actually occurs.

Personally I wouldn't send them a nickel until such time you can verify everything your questioning. Additionally, I would make sure that I pay for and use my own escrow agent to transfer everything and release the funds to the seller when the transfer is completed. Suggest using Legal Title Transfers. www.LTTransfers.com

Now the seller likely won't agree to this arrangement so just tell them to pound sand and also tell them to sell it to someone else instead. The seller seems to be in an extreme hurry to obtain your hard earned money.

Best of luck!
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I think this is incorrect for a number of reasons. First, your reference to "all real estate contracts must be in writing" is a reference to the statute of frauds, which does apply to contracts for the sale of land. However, I doubt that the sale of Wyndham points is a sale of land that would fall within the statute of frauds, although as a sale of a timeshare contract, it would likely be subject to a right of rescission under state law. Even if the statute of frauds were to be applicable, I think the specificity of the eBay ad would satisfy the writing requirement, and that OP's offer to purchase and clicking the bid button would suffice as a signing. Moreover, it looks like OP did MORE than merely click a bid button, as it appears he made a specific best offer for a lower purchase amount ($8,500), which the seller accepted. So I do think there would be an enforceable contract. Of course, the shortest answer to all this is if the buyer were to back out, the greatest likelihood is that he would simply get negative feedback because I don't think any sellers are likely to sue buyers to enforce such a contract.
 
SteveinHNL said:
I think this is incorrect for a number of reasons. First, your reference to "all real estate contracts must be in writing" is a reference to the statute of frauds, which does apply to contracts for the sale of land. However, I doubt that the sale of Wyndham points is a sale of land that would fall within the statute of frauds, although as a sale of a timeshare contract, it would likely be subject to a right of rescission under state law. Even if the statute of frauds were to be applicable, I think the specificity of the eBay ad would satisfy the writing requirement, and that OP's offer to purchase and clicking the bid button would suffice as a signing. Moreover, it looks like OP did MORE than merely click a bid button, as it appears he made a specific best offer for a lower purchase amount ($8,500), which the seller accepted. So I do think there would be an enforceable contract. Of course, the shortest answer to all this is if the buyer were to back out, the greatest likelihood is that he would simply get negative feedback because I don't think any sellers are likely to sue buyers to enforce such a contract.
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Ebay’s policy on real estate purchases is that bids on its platform are not enforceable and and a buyer can back out without penalty. Both the seller and the buyer agree to those terms by utilizing eBay, so there’s nothing a seller can do if a buyer backs out.
 
This seller also has an ad on TUG. I offered to buy it and they want me to send the money by PayPal. I see post that they are legit but I’m not sure. Did OP PayPal the money? Others who said they had successful purchases?
 
AZLatin5 said:
This seller also has an ad on TUG. I offered to buy it and they want me to send the money by PayPal. I see post that they are legit but I’m not sure. Did OP PayPal the money? Others who said they had successful purchases?
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Are you saying the seller is offering the exact same TS on TUG and is also agreeing to sell it to you? That's not a good sign.
 
The seller's 94.7% positive feedback on eBay is not reassuring.

If it were me and I were buying based on the implied representation that the points would be PR but the seller will not verify his representation by providing documentation, I would not be sending $8,500 to anyone (especially to an escrow company controlled by that seller).
 
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SteveinHNL said:
Are you saying the seller is offering the exact same TS on TUG and is also agreeing to sell it to you? That's not a good sign.
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No a different week just the same company.
 
vacationtime1 said:
The seller's 94.7% positive feedback on eBay is not reassuring.

If it were me and I were buying based on the implied representation that the points would be PR but the seller will not verify his representation by providing documentation, I would not be sending $8,500 to anyone (especially to an escrow company controlled by that seller).
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If you read the feedback, the seller responded to the complaints, and they seem reasonable.

Remember, this seller is offering timeshares, which is going to be a low-volume business and one that likely will draw some skittish and reactionary customers.
 
I recently purchased a Marriott Grande Vista 2 bedroom platinum week (Florida club) through Express Closings. They had an ad on TUG Marketplace. I am still waiting for Marriott to complete the transfer. The broker moved the deal through ROFR and had a the deed registered within 3 weeks. They have been reasonably responsive to my inquiries for updates.
 
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