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Woman are from Venus; Men are from Mars

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Is it me or is there a significant difference between men and woman when it comes to business, or at least the business of renting timeshares?

in Sept and October I have rented 9 weeks or long weekends

With five of them, my negotiations have been with men, and four with women

In all five cases the men and I reached an agreement. They paid the deposit when they said they would, and they paid the rest when they said they would

In all four cases the women said one thing and did another, I had to call and email repeatedly to reach an agreement and once that was done, without exception the deposit was late arriving as was the rest of the rent.

I dont get it
 
Ron - I have had the exact opposite experience. The renters I have had the most problems with have all been men.

-The guy who exchanged 67 emails with me demanding a better view than the one he paid for. :doh:

-The guy who simply ignored my multiple requests for the 2nd payment - When I called him he told me he was going to pay the resort! :doh:

-The guy who simply could not figure out how to make a paypal payment and messed it up so badly that he got his account locked down by PP with a fraud alert. :doh:

-The guy who could not figure out how to confirm his reservation with the resort (with step by step directions.) :doh: "I kept getting music." "Yes... that means you are on hold."
 
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Guys and Gals ...

It is how their brains are wired.
DEALING with MEN: Gals tend to get "a male" to bend over and "help" them. Guys tend to reach a deal with another male - and take care of business.
DEALING with WOMEN: Gals tend to want talk details forever from another woman. Guys tend figure they can get WHAT they want by demanding it from the woman (like shopping for groceries, doing wash, handling the kids).


I get along better with guys as I call BS exactly that. Gals want me to constantly reassure them.

One wife whose husband (site engineering manager) rented a townhouse for more than a year from me - met her while she had the movers unloading the truck. First question was, HOW did you get him to RENT a townhouse? Pointed out he could mow the lawn in 15 minutes and have more time for GOLF. On move out, HOW did you manage to never have my husband "freak out" on you? When he called with a problem, the only words he wanted me to say were, "I be there to fix that in an hour". And I was.

So, Denise, you were suppose to handle that musicak & hold for him and get the other guy that oceanfront unit. As for not paying guy, he was going to finalize the deal by paying the male resort manager. Just be thankful you didn't have to wait on them as their partners/wives.

And, Ron, just send them an email saying, your vacation has been cancelled due to clause #99, which states NO REFUNDS! And this is why, I ask for FULL PAYMENT at the time of booking.
 
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I think it is you Ron.
 
I find that personality/communication styles is extremely helpful in figuring out who you are dealing with so you can most effectively deal with them.

The most helpful theory that I have read has personalities divided into four categories: driver, analytical, amiable and expressive.

Those people that try to run right over you to get their way are drivers, those people that ask 67 questions to get their way are analyticals, those people that just follow instruction and are easy to get along with are amiable, those that express themselves and are enthusiastic but don't take care of business are expressives.

In general, more men are directs and more women are expressive. Both amiables and analytics are pretty well divided.

It sounds to me that there is something about Ron's ads that are attracting both expressives and directs.

Denise's ads are attracting a variety of personality types.

And Linda is a universal communicator: a person that can adjust their own communication style to the person that they are dealing with.

Obviously this is a very simple explanation. It is really helpful to me when I am dealing with my clients.

Directs want to tell you what they need and want to talk about themselves. Ego-stroking rather than getting into a power struggle works best for them. They want to talk about themselves. At the same time, in order for you to get what you need from the relationship they need very clear parameters. I have some difficulty dealing with these people because they are always wanting to dictate how things are done.

Analyticals just want the facts. They do not want to establish any rapport. I find the phrase, "what information can I provide to you for you to make an informed decision" is helpful.

Amiables are usually good conversationalists because they understand the give and take of a relationship. As they express their needs/wants, you tell them how what you have will fit them. To me, they are the easiest to deal with. And they almost always follow through.

Expressives are almost as difficult as Directs for me to deal with. In some ways they are similar. They both have a tendency to monopolize conversations: directives to impress you with how important they are; expressives to tell you all about how they feel.

Because I have difficulty dealing with directs, I will tell an extreme direct, "you know, I think that you need to hire a board certified specialist for your problem." They go away happy because they feel important. I am happy because I don't have to pander to their needs. (Sounds like Linda has dealing with directs down pat).

Expressives can simply be deflected, "it sounds like you have alot to deal with right now. Once you have made up your mind and you are ready to make a decision, come on back with your completed workbook and the downpayment." Workbooks are inexpensive compared to my time.

Amiables and analyticals are comparatively easy to deal with.

Just my 2 cents for the day.

elaine
 
I wouldn't think gender plays a part in renting. I think having a rental contract/agreement that stipulates your conditions and having both parties signing it is helpful.

When I rent a unit, I always send a copy of our rental terms and conditions to the renter, and ask them to let me know if they are interested after reading the terms.

My husband doesn't get involved. Of course, my parents owned a seasonal rental comprised of multiple units while I was growing up, so maybe I have inherited the renter genes!! :D

Norma
 
glypnirsgirl said:
I find that personality/communication styles is extremely helpful in figuring out who you are dealing with so you can most effectively deal with them.


elaine
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That is really interesting to me. Is there a publication that you read about this? Probably a communication seminar but I'm interested to learn a bit more about it.

Oh, and on the original topic - My own personal thought is that men and women do not deal with business matters differently according to gender. I do think though that men and women are more likely to deal with emotional types of issues differently according to gender.

Not hard and fast rules but just my .02 which I think we were being asked for.
 
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BevL said:
That is really interesting to me. Is there a publication that you read about this? Probably a communication seminar but I'm interested to learn a bit more about it.

Oh, and on the original topic - My own personal thought is that men and women do not deal with business matters differently according to gender. I do think though that men and women are more likely to deal with emotional types of issues differently according to gender.

Not hard and fast rules but just my .02 which I think we were being asked for.
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Hi Bev - yes, it was a seminar, but on negotiating.

I became so interested in it that one of my friends that is in sales gave me a book that is based on the same analysis called "needs based selling" or something similar. I googled and amazoned it - and cannot find it. It was an old book when it was given to me.

I may find the book this weekend.

elaine
 
I tend to think its not so much a difference between genders, but rather that there is a high quotient of loons throughout the population and while we may notice it more in the opposite gender, each has its fair share.

IMO, some of us, even if relatively normal, will attract loons or be attracted to loons. OTOH, it could e that loons are simply more prevalent in certain aspects of human endeavor, like timesharing.
 
Talent312 said:
I tend to think its not so much a difference between genders, but rather that there is a high quotient of loons throughout the population and while we may notice it more in the opposite gender, each has its fair share.

IMO, some of us, even if relatively normal, will attract loons or be attracted to loons. OTOH, it could e that loons are simply more prevalent in certain aspects of human endeavor, like timesharing.
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I DO love the sound a loon makes! Does that mean I'm attracted to loons/attract loons or simply AM a loon??:hysterical: :hysterical:
 
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