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Why Container Ships Can't Sail Around the California Ports Bottleneck

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At a manufacturing company where I worked way back in the last century, a woman that worked in the cafeteria had a baby over the weekend and was back to work on Monday,
We had our first child about the same time on a Sunday and my wife was in the hospital for five days, no day off for me.
 

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At a manufacturing company where I worked way back in the last century, a woman that worked in the cafeteria had a baby over the weekend and was back to work on Monday,
We had our first child about the same time on a Sunday and my wife was in the hospital for five days, no day off for me.
After I spent all night in the hospital with my wife waiting for our second daughter to be born, she finally arrived at about 9am. When I called my office, my boss asked what time I would be in.
 

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Container ships stuck at sea as supply chain
backlog hits U.S. ports.



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Container ships stuck at sea as supply chain
backlog hits U.S. ports.



Richard

a shortage of truck drivers ?

Shocking news !

WHAT IS THE TRUCK DRIVER SHORTAGE?
There appears to be a shortage of qualified professional truck drivers because drivers are leaving the industry and searching for jobs that offer better pay, benefits and working conditions.
They’re simply not happy or satisfied with the lifestyle driving a truck for a living provides. And who can fault them for this?
 
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Lazy crane operators making $250,000 a year exacerbating port crisis, truckers say.


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Lots of chatter on my St Augustine FB groups about the Port of Jacksonville FL now accepting container ships with cargo for the USA. One article somebody linked said a cargo ship from Europe could sail to Jacksonville, unload and go back to Europe, load up again, and be half way back to Jacksonville, in less time than the same ship would have taken just to go to California, wait it's turn and unload. Some CEO's of major shipping companies are negotiating to get their ships to leave the California holding area at sea and sail back around to Jacksonville, many have already been re-routed to FL instead of CA.


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Are oil containers ships trap in this problem? Gas prices are rising almost daily.
 
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FYI, the port backlog has nothing to do with Truckers. It is 100% the fault of the Ports of Long Beach & Los Angeles. They were ranked this week as the 390th worst port in the world (Chinese and Saudi Arabian ports are in the Top 10). They are horribly inefficient, every day this month there are dozens of trucks waiting to be given a container. Aside from the longshoremen who secure the ship to the docks, it only takes 2 people to unload each container. First is the crane operator, who uses a special "clamp" to pick up the container. Within 5 minutes, the container is off the ship and onto a chassis, the next person is a "jockey" who takes the container + chassis to a spot on the yard, ready to be taken out of the port.

BUT, if they do not have enough chassis for the containers, either they stack the container in the yard or just leave it on the ship. If a trucker has a chassis only, they can go in, the yard has a lift truck who can get the container on the chassis, and it is on its way. The port would need thousands of chassis to put containers on, but the port can't buy them fast enough. Most port trucking companies can not simply move one chassis to another port.

In terms of moving from LA/LB to Florida, the Bills of Lading must be changed, which is something only the shipping company (usually in China) can do. Otherwise, it would be one week to go from LA/LB to Florida, then another week for a trucker to take to California to unload, then return to Florida since that chassis is assigned to Florida. Can it work? Possibly. Sending the freight to lesser-used California ports (if they can handle the ships) is probably a better solution.

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Are oil containers ships trap in this problem? Gas prices are rising almost daily.

I think so, I can see oil tankers mixed in with the container ships out in the Long Beach Bay, the line up is all the way south to Newport Beach.

Gas is $5 a gallon at Chevron up the street from me in Huntington Beach.


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I think so, I can see oil tankers mixed in with the container ships out in the Long Beach Bay, the line up is all the way south to Newport Beach.

Gas is $5 a gallon at Chevron up the street from me in Huntington Beach.


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regular gas is $3.29 per gallon and that is up over a $1.00 dollar increase from last year.
 
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