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WDW Annual Meeting

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Today I attended the Westin Desert Willow annual meeting.

I‘ll start with the news that owners most want: maintenance fees will increase 4.2% this time around. That is especially reasonable when you consider that only 1% of the increase is for operations, the other 3.2% reflects a 20% increase in collections for reserves. During the last few years, because of the huge increases in labor and other costs, they did not increase reserve funding and thus the reserves are a bit underfunded and they need to get them back to where they need to be. I think the increase is very reasonable and having sufficient reserves is fair to all owners and avoids the need for special assessments later on (special assessments, while sometimes a necessary evil, are NOT fair to current owners, as the need for a special assessment really means that owners of previous years didn’t pay in enough.)

I am impressed with the new – as of a year or so ago – GM, and now WDW has its own GM and no longer shares a manager with WMH. I think you can see the difference at the property.

Agave Grill now has a new menu with special offerings every night. There is a new food and beverage manager who seems to be doing good work.

They just completed a replastering of the Quiet Pool and I think they said that Ironwood would get done in 2025. There is another soft refurbishment of villas planned to begin in 2029, and in 2041 the property will receive its first total refurbishment in which they take units down to the studs and essentially build them anew. While that’s a long way off, I appreciated knowing about it and that the board was budgeting and collecting reserves to ensure that the quality of the property stays high.

i will post photos I took of a few of the slides they showed, and I’m happy to answer any questions about what was discussed.

It’s also worth noting that one of the attached slides is the first confirmation I’ve seen that the new Westin Vacation Club properties being built in Charleston and Savannah will not be in VSN. Most of us assumed that but the slide seems to confirm it.

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Today I attended the Westin Desert Willow annual meeting.

I‘ll start with the news that owners most want: maintenance fees will increase 4.2% this time around. That is especially reasonable when you consider that only 1% of the increase is for operations, the other 3.2% reflects a 20% increase in collections for reserves. During the last few years, because of the huge increases in labor and other costs, they did not increase reserve funding and thus the reserves are a bit underfunded and they need to get them back to where they need to be. I think the increase is very reasonable and having sufficient reserves is fair to all owners and avoids the need for special assessments later on (special assessments, while sometimes a necessary evil, are NOT fair to current owners, as the need for a special assessment really means that owners of previous years didn’t pay in enough.)

I am impressed with the new – as of a year or so ago – GM, and now WDW has its own GM and no longer shares a manager with WMH. I think you can see the difference at the property.

Agave Grill now has a new menu with special offerings every night. There is a new food and beverage manager who seems to be doing good work.

They just completed a replastering of the Quiet Pool and I think they said that Ironwood would get done in 2025. There is another soft refurbishment of villas planned to begin in 2029, and in 2041 the property will receive its first total refurbishment in which they take units down to the studs and essentially build them anew. While that’s a long way off, I appreciated knowing about it and that the board was budgeting and collecting reserves to ensure that the quality of the property stays high.

i will post photos I took of a few of the slides they showed, and I’m happy to answer any questions about what was discussed.

It’s also worth noting that one of the attached slides is the first confirmation I’ve seen that the new Westin Vacation Club properties being built in Charleston and Savannah will not be in VSN. Most of us assumed that but the slide seems to confirm it.

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Any word on them completing the build out of the resort? I understand there are several additional buildings that haven't been built and perhaps one additional pool.
 

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Any word on them completing the build out of the resort? I understand there are several additional buildings that haven't been built and perhaps one additional pool.
Yes, they have an agreement with the city of Palm Desert to complete the additional five buildings by 2026. That’s obviously not going to happen (there are no plans to move forward with them anytime soon.) I asked what the ramifications of missing the deadline was, would they lose the entitlements for those buildings, and was told that the same thing happened in 2016 and the developer paid a fee to extend the agreement for ten years, so hopefully they could do that again.
 

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In the photo with the two new properties, they include "BonVoy points". Is that new?
That wouldn't be new. You can use Bonvoy points to book any Marriott, Sheraton or Westin Vacation Club property.
 

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Glad for a lesser MF increase for 2025. I rented my 2/15 unit, 2 bedroom, $3,000, so at least I am getting my fees back + a little extra.
 

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Many thanks for your report!
Question: Has construction of the adjacent wave part been completed?
 

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Many thanks for your report!
Question: Has construction of the adjacent wave part been completed?
No, it’s just started. They have been digging out the “hole” for the huge pool and there is a literal mountain of sand right on the other side of the fence from our property. But there was a big windstorm earlier this week and I didn’t see any blowing sand so they must be keeping it wetted down or whatever.

The plan is for the wave pool to be open in summer of 2026, so probably 18 more months of construction on that. But then they have plans to build homes surrounding the park and a hotel. So it will be a construction zone for a number of years. Fortunately, there is really only one or two buildings that are impacted. I’ll bet those buildings will be filled with II reservations for the next couple years, lol.

Once the surfing park is opened, and before the homes and hotel are built, maybe it will increase the rental desirability at WDW. I don’t usually rent out my ownership here but I know some do.

if you’re interested in info on the wave park and their renderings of what it will look like – it’s not my “thing” but it’s interesting nonetheless – the website is https://dsrtsurf.com/
 
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