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W.N.T.A., Inc - A Scam?

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Has anyone had any dealings with W.N.T.A., Inc.? Someone I care about has already sent them hundreds of thousands of dollars and they want this person to send them more. How can I get through to this person that paying upfront fees or commission to a Mexican “escrow” account means the money is gone forever?
 
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Has anyone had any dealings with W.N.T.A., Inc.? I think my friend is being scammed in the sale of a Mexican timeshare and he doesn’t want to believe it is a scam. He has already sent them hundreds of thousands of dollars and he is about to send them more if I can’t talk him out of it. Help!!!! How can I get through to my friend that paying upfront fees or commission to a Mexican “escrow” account means the money is gone forever?

Here is their website:
https://www.wntainc.com
Your friend sent hundreds of thousands of dollars? Is your friend a billionaire? Are they elderly or have cognitive issues? Who manages their money? This sounds like a serious financial crisis beyond timeshares.
 

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Has anyone had any dealings with W.N.T.A., Inc.? I think my friend is being scammed in the sale of a Mexican timeshare and he doesn’t want to believe it is a scam. He has already sent them hundreds of thousands of dollars and he is about to send them more if I can’t talk him out of it. Help!!!! How can I get through to my friend that paying upfront fees or commission to a Mexican “escrow” account means the money is gone forever?

Here is their website:
https://www.wntainc.com



Of course it's a scam!

Buy your friend a TUG membership and he'll save whatever assets he has left :cheer:





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I agree with davidvel - "hundreds of thousands of dollars" is a WAY TO MUCH to send to any company for anything to do with a timeshare. Your friend is just getting milked for as much as those crooks can get out of him. I am not sure if Profecto could help but you can certainly prevent your friend from sending them another dollar.
What reason does this company give for needing that much money? Are they saying they are selling it for him. If so its probably worth $1.00 and any reputable company selling a timeshare will deduct their fees from the sale proceeds.


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They have made up every story under the sun. They need it for Mexican taxes... They need it for commission... if he will only send them this little bit more, they will give him $$$$$$$$$.
 
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Your friend sent hundreds of thousands of dollars? Is your friend a billionaire? Are they elderly or have cognitive issues? Who manages their money? This sounds like a serious financial crisis beyond timeshares.

He is generally very smart. I just want to convince him to stop sending money.
 
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You have done everything a friend should do. You simply can't help someone that doesn't want to be helped.
 

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100% scam

All you can do for your friend is to help stop the bleeding. That is lost money, never to be recovered. These scammers are outside of the US.

There are typically two scammers involved. It looks like this one is the "escrow" company. The other "company" would be the one cold calling and advising that they have a buyer willing to pay an unbelievable amount of money for a timeshare that isn't worth anything. They will then turn it over to the "escrow" company which is probably the telephone next to them.

The scammer's website was created December 11, 2018, less than one year ago. The registrant location is Panama although the actual scammers are probably in Mexico. This scammer identified a random MA corporation that was dissolved in August 2018. In January 2019, the scammer filed fraudulent documentation with the state of MA to reinstate the corporation with the state. They then used this fraudulent info with the BBB to reflect a long time history dating back to 1983, all in an attempt to make their victims feel comfortable that they were dealing with a legit company. The cost to reinstate this corporation? "No Fee" per the document on file with the state of MA.

I hope your friend doesn't set a new record for lost money. Below is a thread about a lady who lost over $400,000 to the exact same scam. Ask your friend to read it to see if he sees any similarities. Note also, that scammer also hijacked and activated a dormant corporation.

https://tugbbs.com/forums/index.php...ee-timeshare-resale-scam.296096/#post-2342755
 
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Scammers will change websites and names often to keep ahead of the complaints. Here is another scammer website, created August 2019, that shares the exact same About Us page as WNTA. This one also has a registrant in Panama and is likely the same scammer who set up their "new" company to keep scamming people.

https://www.completeescrowtitle.com/our-professionals.php
 

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100% scam

All you can do for your friend is to help stop the bleeding. That is lost money, never to be recovered. These scammers are outside of the US.

There are typically two scammers involved. It looks like this one is the "escrow" company. The other "company" would be the one cold calling and advising that they have a buyer willing to pay an unbelievable amount of money for a timeshare that isn't worth anything. They will then turn it over to the "escrow" company which is probably the telephone next to them.

The scammer's website was created December 11, 2018, less than one year ago. The registrant location is Panama although the actual scammers are probably in Mexico. This scammer identified a random MA corporation that was dissolved in August 2018. In January 2019, the scammer filed fraudulent documentation with the state of MA to activate the corporation with the state. They then used this fraudulent info with the BBB to reflect a long time history dating back to 1983, all in an attempt to make their victims feel comfortable that they were dealing with a legit company. The cost to activate this corporation? "No Fee" per the document on file with the state of MA.

I hope your friend doesn't set a new record for lost money. Below is a thread about a lady who lost over $400,000 to the exact same scam. Ask your friend to read it to see if he sees any similarities. Note also, that scammer also hijacked and activated a dormant corporation.

https://tugbbs.com/forums/index.php...ee-timeshare-resale-scam.296096/#post-2342755
Thank you so much!
 

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As long as he keeps sending money they will keep finding another delay and another fee that he will have to pay before the money is released to him. As soon as he stops sending money, they will disappear .
 
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