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Is the VSN membership fee the same for all members or is there some kind of scaling system? Is the 2024 annual fee $295?

I'm a deeded owner at Vistana Resort, Falls. If I join VSN I would need to pay the normal annual maintenance fees plus the club membership, is this correct? Are there other fees?
 

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Is the VSN membership fee the same for all members or is there some kind of scaling system? Is the 2024 annual fee $295?

I'm a deeded owner at Vistana Resort, Falls. If I join VSN I would need to pay the normal annual maintenance fees plus the club membership, is this correct? Are there other fees?
If it's a resale I don't think you can.
 

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It is based on Abound Owner Benefit Level which is based on the number of points owned.
  • $240 Owners and Select Members (<4,000 points)
  • $280 Executive and Presidential Members (4,000 to 14,999 points)
  • $295 Chairman's Club Members (15,000 points or more)
 

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It is based on Abound Owner Benefit Level which is based on the number of points owned.
  • $240 Owners and Select Members (<4,000 points)
  • $280 Executive and Presidential Members (4,000 to 14,999 points)
  • $295 Chairman's Club Members (15,000 points or more)
That’s the case for enrolled owners who pay Abound Club Dues. But the OP referred to the VSN fee, which I think is only paid by unenrolled owners (usually resale buyers who have not paid to enroll their ownership) and has a different fee structure, I think?
 

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That’s the case for enrolled owners who pay Abound Club Dues. But the OP referred to the VSN fee, which I think is only paid by unenrolled owners (usually resale buyers who have not paid to enroll their ownership) and has a different fee structure, I think?
But I took it that they own Vistana Resort and the only way to join VSN is to requalify which would also make them Abound eligible. I don't think there is any way for them to just join VSN without also being in Abound.
 

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But I took it that they own Vistana Resort and the only way to join VSN is to requalify which would also make them Abound eligible. I don't think there is any way for them to just join VSN without also being in Abound.
Ah, I think you are correct (as usual!)
 

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But I took it that they own Vistana Resort and the only way to join VSN is to requalify which would also make them Abound eligible. I don't think there is any way for them to just join VSN without also being in Abound.
Thank you everyone for the help. I have a Vistana Resort resale deed from the 1980s and an offer to requalify it. I also have 1,000 Marriott Vacation Club points. The latter is what made it possible to requalify the form.

I pay Marriott Vacation Club $240 for "Owner Club Dues". When the Vistana week is requalified and I become a member of VSN, I'm assuming I will need to pay another club dues to VSN.

My Vistana deed would be equal to 81,000 staroptions; or 2,800 [edit should be 2,600] Marriott Vacation Club points if deposited into the Abound program.

One problem is that the paperwork for requalifing the deed, says nothing about Abound. The cover letter to the legal document says:

"1. Access to 23 VSN resorts in popular vacation destinations like Hawai‘i, California, Colorado, the Caribbean and more without paying additional exchange fees.
"2. The flexibility to convert your week of ownership into Marriott Bonvoy™ Points, which can be used to enjoy free nights at more than 7,000 Marriott Bonvoy Hotels and resorts worldwide.
"3. Annual membership in Interval International®, an External Exchange company that gives you access to more than 3,200 additional villa-style vacation resorts in 80 countries.
"4. Home Resort Reservation Periods that give you four months to book a villa at your Home Resort before other VSN members
"5. Banking & Borrowing of StarOptions to add more flexibility in how you utilize your vacation ownership."

But nothing about Abound.
 
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Thank you everyone for the help. I have a Vistana Resort resale deed from the 1980s and an offer to requalify it. I also have 1,000 Marriott Vacation Club points. The latter is what made it possible to requalify the form.

I pay Marriott Vacation Club $240 for "Owner Club Dues". When the Vistana week is requalified and I become a member of VSN, I'm assuming I will need to pay another club dues to VSN.

My Vistana deed would be equal to 81,000 staroptions; or 2,800 Marriott Vacation Club points if deposited into the Abound program.

One problem is that the paperwork for requalifing the deed, says nothing about Abound. The cover letter to the legal document says:

"1. Access to 23 VSN resorts in popular vacation destinations like Hawai‘i, California, Colorado, the Caribbean and more without paying additional exchange fees.
"2. The flexibility to convert your week of ownership into Marriott Bonvoy™ Points, which can be used to enjoy free nights at more than 7,000 Marriott Bonvoy Hotels and resorts worldwide.
"3. Annual membership in Interval International®, an External Exchange company that gives you access to more than 3,200 additional villa-style vacation resorts in 80 countries.
"4. Home Resort Reservation Periods that give you four months to book a villa at your Home Resort before other VSN members
"5. Banking & Borrowing of StarOptions to add more flexibility in how you utilize your vacation ownership."

But nothing about Abound.
This looks like an offer to requalify your Vistana Resort week into VSN -- not to enroll it into Abound. The numbered items 1-5 all all VSN things, nothing special.

Yes, you would get to pay a VSN fee in addition to the club fee for your 1000 Abound points.

That said, unless this comes at an additional financial cost, I would do this. StarOption trading is very efficient.

btw -- Who said that your unit would get 2800 points if deposited into Abound? That makes no sense because, as you note, the enrollment documentation says nothing about Abound
 

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Thank you everyone for the help. I have a Vistana Resort resale deed from the 1980s and an offer to requalify it. I also have 1,000 Marriott Vacation Club points. The latter is what made it possible to requalify the form.

I pay Marriott Vacation Club $240 for "Owner Club Dues". When the Vistana week is requalified and I become a member of VSN, I'm assuming I will need to pay another club dues to VSN.

My Vistana deed would be equal to 81,000 staroptions; or 2,800 Marriott Vacation Club points if deposited into the Abound program.

One problem is that the paperwork for requalifing the deed, says nothing about Abound. The cover letter to the legal document says:

"1. Access to 23 VSN resorts in popular vacation destinations like Hawai‘i, California, Colorado, the Caribbean and more without paying additional exchange fees.
"2. The flexibility to convert your week of ownership into Marriott Bonvoy™ Points, which can be used to enjoy free nights at more than 7,000 Marriott Bonvoy Hotels and resorts worldwide.
"3. Annual membership in Interval International®, an External Exchange company that gives you access to more than 3,200 additional villa-style vacation resorts in 80 countries.
"4. Home Resort Reservation Periods that give you four months to book a villa at your Home Resort before other VSN members
"5. Banking & Borrowing of StarOptions to add more flexibility in how you utilize your vacation ownership."

But nothing about Abound.
When did you purchase the 1,000 points? Was the purchase of those points what is able to requalify your SVR deed? Being in VSN uslally equals being enrolled in Abound unless you bought resale after August 2022. This is an odd requalification offer.
 

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When did you purchase the 1,000 points? Was the purchase of those points what is able to requalify your SVR deed? Being in VSN uslally equals being enrolled in Abound unless you bought resale after August 2022. This is an odd requalification offer.
The MVC points were purchased about 1 1/2 to 2 years ago with the "promise" that the deeded week could be used in Abound. That happened when Abound was first being rolled out. Since the deed had been deposited in Interval, we didn't try to deposit it into MVC. When we tried last year to deposit it into MVC, we got a lot of run around. Finally sent a complaint letter to Marriott Corporate and got an offer to enroll in VSN -- I think this is an offer to requalify the deed.
 

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btw -- Who said that your unit would get 2800 points if deposited into Abound? That makes no sense because, as you note, the enrollment documentation says nothing about Abound

The original sales presentation. and then a second sales presentation from corporate sales. Both were Marriott Vacation Club staff. The second presentation said we needed to buy more MVC points to correct the mistake made at the first presentation.

[edit] my Vistana deeded would be worth 2600 MVC points (not 2800) in Abound. My mistake.
 
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The MVC points were purchased about 1 1/2 to 2 years ago with the "promise" that the deeded week could be used in Abound. That happened when Abound was first being rolled out. Since the deed had been deposited in Interval, we didn't try to deposit it into MVC. When we tried last year to deposit it into MVC, we got a lot of run around. Finally sent a complaint letter to Marriott Corporate and got an offer to enroll in VSN -- I think this is an offer to requalify the deed.
So I suppose you may need to seek clarification from the person extending the VSN enrollment offer. It is possible that the offer details they sent are just on an old form letter and it will also come with Abound. Hard to know for sure.
 

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So I suppose you may need to seek clarification from the person extending the VSN enrollment offer. It is possible that the offer details they sent are just on an old form letter and it will also come with Abound. Hard to know for sure.
It’s hard to imagine that they would newly qualify a VOI in 2024 and make it only a partial qualification (VSN but not Abound) so I’m betting it’s an old form and you’d get full enrollment and that you’d pay Club Dues rather than a VSN fee when it’s all done. And if your VOIs are titled the same, you should pay only once, covering both of your ownerships once requalified.

But, @dioxide45 is right that you should seek clarification and not assume.
 

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We own a resale Vistana that was grandfather into VSN, we have 81,000 star options. Now we have MVC club dues which were $230.00 in 2023 and $240.00 in 2024.
Never looked into Abound. We just use our options at various resorts in the list on Vistana site. Club dues cover banking fees and others which used to be ala carte. etc.
There is a list on the website.
 

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there is now only one fee. it is club dues. you own in vistana, a week that has star options and can be converted to marriott points if you chose to do so or use as the star options. the 2600 for your deeded week and the other 1000 that you own would give you 3600 marriott points per year. you don't pay both VSN and club dues. now it is streamlined. only club dues.
 
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