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Vegas-If you think it’s “safe”, you’re probably wrong

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We thought with all the emphasis on safety, it wouldn’t be to bad. I was wrong. Guests have a complete disregard for social distancing and masks..... hahahahaha. There are so many people either not wearing them at all or having them pulled down below their nose or tucked under their chin.
Even though we’re taking all precautions, including only straying out when the crowds are smallest, I still feel exposed.
 

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We thought with all the emphasis on safety, it wouldn’t be to bad. I was wrong. Guests have a complete disregard for social distancing and masks..... hahahahaha. There are so many people either not wearing them at all or having them pulled down below their nose or tucked under their chin.
Even though we’re taking all precautions, including only straying out when the crowds are smallest, I still feel exposed.

Thanks doup26345, for your observations of what is going in Vegas.
"What goes on in Vegas, Stays in Vegas."
I hope the coronavirus stays in Vegas.
 
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We enjoy casino's and have a 2nd home in Nevada, but by their very nature, casinos are not particularly clean, or condusive to social distancing. I don't think this is any reflection on Las Vegas - it's the nature of the beast.
 

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We enjoy casino's and have a 2nd home in Nevada, but by their very nature, casinos are not particularly clean, or condusive to social distancing. I don't think this is any reflection on Las Vegas - it's the nature of the beast.
Denise, you continue to amaze me. ;)
 

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Is the Vegas strip empty during the day & night liked in downtown in New York City?
When I am watching the morning news shows on ABC and NBC, New York City downtown looked empty.

The Vegas strip was always busy IMHO.
 

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We enjoy casino's and have a 2nd home in Nevada, but by their very nature, casinos are not particularly clean, or condusive to social distancing. I don't think this is any reflection on Las Vegas - it's the nature of the beast.

It would be great if it were only the casinos. We’re not big gamblers and the only time we’ve stepped into a casino was 8:30 AM when we walked thru a small portion of Bellagio to see the conservatory. This morning we were out for a walk on the strip at 7:00 AM. I’d estimate a solid 10% of the people we passed either didn’t have a mask on or were wearing it improperly. Most impressive was the mask less man relieving himself in public just south of Polo Towers in front of that small, old strip mall.
 

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We have an unheard of (for us) problem of a lot of NYC HGVC points that have to be used in 2021.

Normally we would spend as much time as possible in NYC but times aren’t normal.

Although we aren’t really Vegas fans, we decided to try a week at The Elara in February in one of the high floor units. We hope to enjoy the view and lights of Vegas and just hang out.

I’m already a little worried about elevators (we will be somewhere on floors 51 to 56) but your post gives me a new worry.

Just to be clear, we aren’t afraid of traveling as we have been and will be pretty much on the road since things began opening on May 15. Mostly timeshares and just enjoying driving to and being in new places.
 

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Thanks @Doug7856 for the update. We have been tempted to have a getaway to Vegas but will hold off. We can wait a year. I hate it when people ruin it for the rest of us.
 

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This morning we were out for a walk on the strip at 7:00 AM. I’d estimate a solid 10% of the people we passed either didn’t have a mask on or were wearing it improperly. Most impressive was the mask less man relieving himself in public just south of Polo Towers in front of that small, old strip mall.
Would it have been better if the man relieving himself was wearing a mask? It's unfortunate, but I don't think it's much different than you would experience in many larger cities with a significant homeless population. It's tough to see the connection to covid here, particularly as I don't think masks are required in outdoor locations.
 

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I have seen that when people vacation, they seem to take a vacation from their masks as well (when the whole family gets out of their out-of-state car you recognize the trend). Best advice is to go where the people aren't. It's a challenge but it will make you feel better.
 

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It would be great if it were only the casinos. We’re not big gamblers and the only time we’ve stepped into a casino was 8:30 AM when we walked thru a small portion of Bellagio to see the conservatory. This morning we were out for a walk on the strip at 7:00 AM. I’d estimate a solid 10% of the people we passed either didn’t have a mask on or were wearing it improperly.
So, just to be clear, your complaint is about people Not wearing masks outdoors?

I just watched a YouTube about a young couple there. They didn't mention this.

May I ask, why Vegas? er, maybe even, why travel?
 

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It would be great if it were only the casinos. We’re not big gamblers and the only time we’ve stepped into a casino was 8:30 AM when we walked thru a small portion of Bellagio to see the conservatory. This morning we were out for a walk on the strip at 7:00 AM. I’d estimate a solid 10% of the people we passed either didn’t have a mask on or were wearing it improperly. Most impressive was the mask less man relieving himself in public just south of Polo Towers in front of that small, old strip mall.
How crowded was it walking the strip at 7 AM?
 

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Well. Vegas streets can be so crowded that people should have masks outdoors. Difficult to social distance.
 

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Are masks required outdoors there ?
No, masks aren't required outdoors, but people are encouraged to abide by all the other stuff like washing your hands, social distancing, etc. That doesn't mean they all do, though. We took a visitor who had never been to Las Vegas on a drive up the Strip, through the downtown area by Fremont St., and back down the Strip on a Friday night a couple of weeks ago. We were always in the car and did the drive-through at In-and-Out before dropping our vistor at the airport. Things were pretty calm on our little excursion and there were uniformed police and security all along the way. It seemed very safe to me, although we found out that later that night there was some incident with a shot fired somewhere along our route.

I've heard that with room rates ridiculously low there has been trouble at some hotels with a very different clientele that apparently don't know how to behave. The sheriff's remarks above are a good description of what's going on here. I'll be so glad when things get back to normal when shows, conventions and sporting events can resume. Las Vegas is such a fun, unique place and it's really sad to see how this pandemic has affected everything.
 

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What I’m finding impressive is that 90% were wearing masks outdoors at that time of day. In my experience you won’t run into many people on the strip between 5 am and 11 am - and that was before the pandemic ranked travel.
 

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No, masks aren't required outdoors, but people are encouraged to abide by all the other stuff like washing your hands, social distancing, etc. That doesn't mean they all do, though. We took a visitor who had never been to Las Vegas on a drive up the Strip, through the downtown area by Fremont St., and back down the Strip on a Friday night a couple of weeks ago. We were always in the car and did the drive-through at In-and-Out before dropping our vistor at the airport. Things were pretty calm on our little excursion and there were uniformed police and security all along the way. It seemed very safe to me, although we found out that later that night there was some incident with a shot fired somewhere along our route.

I've heard that with room rates ridiculously low there has been trouble at some hotels with a very different clientele that apparently don't know how to behave. The sheriff's remarks above are a good description of what's going on here. I'll be so glad when things get back to normal when shows, conventions and sporting events can resume. Las Vegas is such a fun, unique place and it's really sad to see how this pandemic has affected everything.
Yeah, in my personal risk analysis, the crime seems to be a bigger issue in LV than 10% non mask compliance outdoors.
 

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Not only outdoors but in. I walked down to the ABC store in the Miracle Mile Shops and compliance was severely lacking and no enforcement going on. That’s what actually prompted my post more so than when outdoors.

I had thought they were requiring masks anywhere on the strip, in or out.

At 7:00 Am it wasn’t crowded. Walking back in to Elara through the mall on a Saturday night was crowded.
 

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At 7:00 Am it wasn’t crowded. Walking back in to Elara through the mall on a Saturday night was crowded.

How is the elevator situation at the Elara?
 

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How is the elevator situation at the Elara?

They’re not regulating how many people can enter an elevator.

We overheard a salesman tell a couple that they’re limited to 40% occupancy right now. I’m not sure how much I believe that statement.
 

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Is the Vegas strip empty during the day & night liked in downtown in New York City?
When I am watching the morning news shows on ABC and NBC, New York City downtown looked empty.

The Vegas strip was always busy IMHO.
Nyc is going to suffer for a long time.
 

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Not only outdoors but in. I walked down to the ABC store in the Miracle Mile Shops and compliance was severely lacking and no enforcement going on. That’s what actually prompted my post more so than when outdoors.

I had thought they were requiring masks anywhere on the strip, in or out.

At 7:00 Am it wasn’t crowded. Walking back in to Elara through the mall on a Saturday night was crowded.
We ate at a restaurant in the Miracle mile shops Thursday night and almost everyone was wearing a mask. I was actually shocked at how many people were wearing masks. We were in St George over the weekend, and practically none of the locals wore masks at local restaurants and in stores.
 
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