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USS Nimitz returns to San Diego after 10 months of deployment

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My final sea-duty command. I served in Nimitz four years, back in the day. Great ship.

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Boy that tells us how ancient the Nimitz is. I am surprised it can still float.:banana:;)

Yeah, I had to turn in my oar when I left the ship... LOL! :D

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I was on the CVN 69 for a few weeks, hats off to you Black shoe sailors that kept the world safe for months at sea. Thank you for your service. :)
 

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Gosh I have not heard the term "Black Shoe" sailor in ages. My Dad was a "Brown Shoe" sailor.
 

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Gosh I have not heard the term "Black Shoe" sailor in ages. My Dad was a "Brown Shoe" sailor.

I was a Black Shoe sailor for 20 years. Surface Navy vs. Airdale Navy on Nimitz.

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What is a "Brown Shoe" in the US Navy?
"Brown Shoe" is a slang term for an aviator. Traditionally, Naval aviators wear brown boots with their flight suits and brown dress shoes with their service khaki uniforms.
Surface Warfare Ofllcers will almost always wear black boots/shoes in uniform. Aviators will often refer to Surface Warfare Ofllcers as "Black Shoes".
It's important to understand that in the Navy there is a major cultural divide between the surface and aviation communities. People will often refer to the "Brown Shoe Navy" or "Black Shoe Navy" when referring to the the aviation or surface communities, respectfully.

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My cousin was on the Nimitz for a while. She is young, I want to say 30. She joined the navy out of high school and loves it. She is such a great example of what a young woman can be.
 

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As one of my sea-duty assignments, I was stationed on USS AJAX (AR-6), a non-combatant repair ship in San Diego, in the late 70s and early 80s. It was one of the test ships when the Navy first started assigning women to the crews of Naval vessels. As I recall, they brought in roughly 100 women sailors to the ship, making up roughly 1/6 of the Ajax crew. It was a time of enormous changes in the military, and having women on the ship was a very new experience. Other than the obvious differences, I found the women to be just as hardworking as the men, and they earned their place among the crew. It was great to sit across the galley table from a woman sailor at mealtimes, and have the conversation actually be interesting. When it was only male sailors, it got to be a little routine. (Cars, sports, sex - what else was there to talk about? :D)

Like most sailors, I rotated between Sea-Duty and Shore-Duty commands. I worked with computers in various ways, (programmer, operator, systems analyst, and such), which took me from the several ships I'd been stationed on, alternating to high-end shore-based computer centers. The staff of such places were usually always mostly women, so I had a lot of experience working in integrated work centers. It was a really interesting time.

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I was a Black Shoe sailor for 20 years. Surface Navy vs. Airdale Navy on Nimitz.
Thanks for your (and Richard's) explanation for us non-military and Army/Air Force types who don't understand these inequities. I could never understand the rank designations that include job description in the Navy. In the Army, a Sergeant, Specialist, Captain, was just a rank that determined pay grade, but in the navy, there are IT mates, and Corpsman's X-class and who knows what all. Nobody gives a whit what my MOS (Military Occupational Specialty) was. FWIW, it was 62G20, Quarry Machine Operator. I made little rocks out of big rocks.
 

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Thanks for your (and Richard's) explanation for us non-military and Army/Air Force types who don't understand these inequities. I could never understand the rank designations that include job description in the Navy. In the Army, a Sergeant, Specialist, Captain, was just a rank that determined pay grade, but in the navy, there are IT mates, and Corpsman's X-class and who knows what all. Nobody gives a whit what my MOS (Military Occupational Specialty) was. FWIW, it was 62G20, Quarry Machine Operator. I made little rocks out of big rocks.

It's not nearly as complicated as you think it is, Jim. In the Navy, pay grade rank is just the pay grade rank. (Enlisted E-1 through E-9 are Seaman (or Airman) Recruit, Seaman (or Airman) Apprentice, Seaman (or Airman), Petty Officer Third Class, Petty Officer Second Class, Petty Officer First Class, Chief Petty Officer, Senior Chief Petty Officer, and Master Chief Petty Officer.)

Where it gets complicated is adding the RATING to the rank, which is the technical wording for the job specialty. In the same way your MOS number specifically defined your job, in the Navy, adding a rating to a rank also made it very clear what that sailor did. I was a "Data Processing Technician First Class Petty Officer" for a large part of my career. That's a lot of words to define me, (or anyone), so they'd abbreviate a rating down to a few letters. In my case, a Data Processing Technician was called a "DP." So as a First Class Petty Officer, that made me a "DP1." Electronic Technicians were ETs. Boatswain's Mates were "BMs." Quartermasters were "QMs." Boiler Technicians were "BT's." Each rating was for a specific job, or type of job, within a larger category of work. At the time, there were over 100 different ratings, each with specific lettering abbreviations for the title, so it could get to be complicated. But still, not a lot different from a lot of MOS's that weren't familiar to everyone. The simplest thing to ask someone was "What does a [whatever rate] do?" Most sailors were happy to talk about their work.

Don't get me started on the different types of uniform insignia. That's a whole other kettle of fish. Or Squid, if you prefer. ;)

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DaveNV As an AT-1 thanks for your excellent explanation of our rate and how it was one of things that made our service in the US Navy so special and great. Best job and career of my life so far.
 

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Thanks for your service DaveNV.

DaveNV As an AT-1 thanks for your excellent explanation of our rate and how it was one of things that made our service in the US Navy so special and great. Best job and career of my life so far.

Thanks, Allen. It was my privilege to serve. But I think you understand that.

As an AT, you surely get the Airdale part of things. The DP rating was later combined with (I think) Radioman, and maybe a few others, to become IT? It's been awhile since I retired from Active Duty, so I'm a bit out of the loop. :D

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Boy that tells us how ancient the Nimitz is. I am surprised it can still float.:banana:;)
The Nimitz was launched in 1972 and was built by the Newport News Shipyard in Newport News, VA,
 

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WATCH: USS Nimitz returns home to Puget Sound region after record deployment.


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