Lowly SPG Gold converts to the much more prestigious MR Gold, for example. I'm personally very happy with the integrated programs, for now. We'll see what the replacement program looks like in 2018.
Value is what you make of it. We've booked two Marriott hotels for an upcoming trip that gave us some more/better options than SPG properties, and they "cost" similar points.
We're toying with staying at the RC in Dana Point, now that there is no StR there any more. Again, about the same number of points.
As to SPG Gold - in EU, had great upgrades (years back), and at Napa up until last year. Now, I won't likely spend 24K per nite. I have no experience as Marriott Gold - except water offer... but would like to hear some before declaring Marriott Gold > SPG Gold
doesn't MR Gold get lounge access/breakfast on the MAR side? you have to be SPG Plat to get the same on the SPG side, so that's one-up...
If there isn't a lounge though, you get breakfast for two for each day of your stay.
The benefit only applies to full service properties; ie Marriott, Renaissance, JW properties. So you wouldn't get breakfast at Courtyard. Other properties like Fairfield Inn include free breakfast already. The benefit also doesn't apply to properties that are designated as Resorts.Didn't know that. I guess it is not that bad then. But, are you talking about any MR property or only properties with restaurants. For instance, what do you get at a Courtyard Marriott that does not have a restaurant? Do they give you a breakfast voucher? I have received those at say Four Points and have liked them a lot. This is a property specific comment, YMMV...
I went for MR Plat (via spending) for the upgrades (pre merger/SPG Plat to MR Plat) and I was disappointed in comparison to SPG.
As a side note, Hilton Diamond is in general bad when you stay in the smaller properties. Currently, I am staying at a Hampton (because DD soccer team picked it for a tournament) and I got to park in one of the two parking spots reserved for Diamonds. And let's not forget, the HH Diamond perk at this property is 250 HH Pesos. Breakfast is included for everybody and it is terrible.
OK. The benefit not applying to resorts was a surprise to me. I just learned that at the Marriott Frenchman Cove in STT...The benefit only applies to full service properties; ie Marriott, Renaissance, JW properties. So you wouldn't get breakfast at Courtyard. Other properties like Fairfield Inn include free breakfast already. The benefit also doesn't apply to properties that are designated as Resorts.
You get this extensive food and drinks offering at JW Marriotts lounge access across Asia too.On the other hand, getting breakfast/lounge access at Ritz Carlton can be worth $100 or more. For instance, at the Ritz in Half Moon Bay, the lounge had an unbelievably extensive breakfast plus food offerings all afternoon and evening, as well as a top-shelf selection of beer, wine, and cocktails in the evening. If you wanted to eat all 3 meals in the lounge, you could. It got a bit tiring after the first couple of days due to the day-to-day similarity of the menu, but it was extremely convenient.
Don’t expect breakfast at Ritz-Carlton, EDITION, etc., or at any resorts. Ritz-Carlton does not provide lounge access for Gold ann Platinum Marriott Rewards unless this has recently changed.
Courtyard also typically does not have breakfast for any elite levels in the United States. I believe outside of the U.S. this may not be the case.