Trading Marriott Aruba Ocean Club for Marriott Hilton Head

[catcher77]

We have a one bedroom Marriott Aruba Ocean Club unit, and have an ongoing search with II for about 2 weeks now. We are looking for a trade into Hilton Head at three different Marriott resorts during a 3 week time frame. The resorts are Marriott's Barony Beach Club, Marriott's Grand Ocean Resort, and Marriott's Surfwatch, and the time frame is July 13th thru August 3rd. I realize that we are trading a one bedroom for a two bedroom, what will be our chances of landing our request? Any suggestions on what we could do, change resorts (we would like to stay within Marriott), but our time frame is pretty well set. Thanks

Donnie

 

[Art]

Presuming that you are talking about 2006 weeks, you are pretty late with your request. At this point any owners who planned to trade their weeks have long since deposited them. That is on top of the fact that the HHI summer weeks are a time of high owner occupancy.

Your best chance for getting a trade is from a deposit from an owner who decides at the last minute that they will not be able to use their week.

You might want to consider adding the older Marriott resorts on Hilton Head to your request. I know I got a trade to the July 4th week at Harbor Pointe about two months before the check-in date. HP and Sunset Pointe are nice, but not in the class of the resorts you have requested, so there is less demand for those weeks.

Art

 

[jme]

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you will NOT get that trade. If you do, you will be luckier than Osama Bin Laden . First, you offer a one-BR, and you're asking for a 2-BR at three of HHI's finest resorts in summer. NOT. The demand is just too high. (I don't even think you'd get it if you were offering a 2-BR.) I would add also Harbour Club, Swallowtail, Monarch, or anything that even looks appealing. Do some research into the ratings, and try a 7 or 8 . During summer, that's about all you can reasonably expect at this late date. A year out? maybe, but still down the totem pole. you're asking for the 9.+ resorts in prime season for resorts where owners seldom deposit for trade, and it just won't happen. I hope you get it, but I'm not optimistic. jme

 

[Quilter]

I've gotten GO twice in the summer with a 1 bedroom OP.

Right now I've got another request in for the week before Memorial Day using a 1 bedroom OP. I figure if it's a possibility it may happen at the last minute when someone dumps a late deposit in II (like Art said). Have to stay flexible.

 

[Beverley]

Acually, you may get the trade (if a deposit comes in) also because the Ocean Club is one of the few resorts that had an agreement that their one bedroom would trade like a 2 bedroom. Custom House is another resort that has that agreement. What is hurting your trade chances the most is that it is late for making the request. HHI is in such high demand that your request should have been made at least a year out. I would do as the others suggest and add a few of the other resorts on HHI and you will greatly increase your chances. HP now has a shuttle to the beach, Monarch is also on the beach, Harbor Club has a shuttle or you could take your car or ride a bike.

Good Luck, we will be there for 3 weeks this summer.

Beverley

 

[Eric]

Actually thats is not correct. Custom House is the ONLY resort with that agreement. The main reason is Custom House only has 1bd units where Ocean Club has 1 & 2 !!

Acually, you may get the trade (if a deposit comes in) also because the Ocean Club is one of the few resorts that had an agreement that their one bedroom would trade like a 2 bedroom. Custom House is another resort that has that agreement.

 

[Art]

Yet, another correction.

As a Custom House owner, you may request a unit with 2 bedorooms at any Marriott resort in exchange for your 1 BR week.

However, as an owner at other resorts, you may request a resort that has only 2 BR units, in exchange for your 1 BR week.

The subtle difference is that in the latter case, you are requesting the resort, rather requesting a size up-grade and a resort. If your 1 BR week has sufficient trading power to pull the requested resort, you will get the unit available, which just happens to be a 2 BR.

Art

Actually thats is not correct. Custom House is the ONLY resort with that agreement. The main reason is Custom House only has 1bd units where Ocean Club has 1 & 2 !!

Acually, you may get the trade (if a deposit comes in) also because the Ocean Club is one of the few resorts that had an agreement that their one bedroom would trade like a 2 bedroom. Custom House is another resort that has that agreement.

 

[Avery]

The units at Harbour Club are really big (two queens and jacuzzi in the secod bedroom) and were just completely redone. The second bedroom at Monarch has only two twins, but the resort is on the beach.

 

[reedps]

Last year we also tried to get into Hilton Head's oceanfront resorts with a 1 bdrm. Granted ours was Grande Vista which I'm sure doesn't trade as well as Aruba... We put our request in a year in advance and continued to expand our dates until we basically had the whole summer requested. We never got a match. Early March we started to worry so we added in the Harbour Point and Sunset Pointe resorts. We had a match the next day. We decided to cancel and hold out to see what we could get in the 59 day window. We were able to get a week at Grande Ocean during flex change. I saw several units come up during that time. We were able to be pretty flexible which helps. The year before we got a week at Barony by checking within that 59 day window. Hope this helps and that you find something that will work for you!!

 

[tompk]

Two years ago I put in a request in early Jan looking for the 3 oceanfront HHI Marriotts or Harbour Club for mid July using a 1 br platinum Grande Vista. We got confirmed into Harbour Club within a month. We then did a retrade about 2 weeks out into Barony. Last summer in mid July I used the studio portion to get into Ocean Watch about 2 weeks out. There's always last minute availability if you're able to search on-line every morning and are flexible.

 

[Beverley]

Tompk,

How early are you looking?

Bev

 

[Dean]

Yet, another correction.

As a Custom House owner, you may request a unit with 2 bedorooms at any Marriott resort in exchange for your 1 BR week.

However, as an owner at other resorts, you may request a resort that has only 2 BR units, in exchange for your 1 BR week.

The subtle difference is that in the latter case, you are requesting the resort, rather requesting a size up-grade and a resort. If your 1 BR week has sufficient trading power to pull the requested resort, you will get the unit available, which just happens to be a 2 BR.

Art

Actually thats is not correct. Custom House is the ONLY resort with that agreement. The main reason is Custom House only has 1bd units where Ocean Club has 1 & 2 !!

The info I have states that those who own a 1 BR at any of 6 resorts can request a 2 BR at resorts that do not have 1 BR units. I see nothing in the rules that state that a Custom House owner can request a 2 BR period even if the resort they want has 1 BR units. Could you point me to the paragraph, maybe I missed it. This does not technically apply to lockoff 1 BR units.

 

[Eric]

II has given MVCI a letter saying it trades like it's a 2bd unit and has all the power of a 2bd unit.

Yet, another correction.

As a Custom House owner, you may request a unit with 2 bedorooms at any Marriott resort in exchange for your 1 BR week.

However, as an owner at other resorts, you may request a resort that has only 2 BR units, in exchange for your 1 BR week.

The subtle difference is that in the latter case, you are requesting the resort, rather requesting a size up-grade and a resort. If your 1 BR week has sufficient trading power to pull the requested resort, you will get the unit available, which just happens to be a 2 BR.

Art

The info I have states that those who own a 1 BR at any of 6 resorts can request a 2 BR at resorts that do not have 1 BR units. I see nothing in the rules that state that a Custom House owner can request a 2 BR period even if the resort they want has 1 BR units. Could you point me to the paragraph, maybe I missed it. This does not technically apply to lockoff 1 BR units.

 

[Dean]

II has given MVCI a letter saying it trades like it's a 2bd unit and has all the power of a 2bd unit.

That is certainly not the same as being a rule that Custom House owners can specify a 2 BR at resorts that have 1 BR units (including lockoff's).

 

[Eric]

Let me be more specific

Custon House trades as if it were a 2bd unit !!

II has given MVCI a letter saying it trades like it's a 2bd unit and has all the power of a 2bd unit.

That is certainly not the same as being a rule that Custom House owners can specify a 2 BR at resorts that have 1 BR units (including lockoff's).

 

[Dean]

Let me be more specific

Custon House trades as if it were a 2bd unit !!

As I asked earlier, where in the rules is that written. I didn't see it in the internal trading preference info other than as I referenced above.

 

[Eric]

I have seen the letter II gives owners

Let me be more specific

Custon House trades as if it were a 2bd unit !!

As I asked earlier, where in the rules is that written. I didn't see it in the internal trading preference info other than as I referenced above.

 

[Dean]

I have seen the letter II gives owners

Sounds like double secret probation. But I'd think it'd have to be in the general rules to have much meaning but I wouldn't mind seeing the exact wording. Please forgive me if I'm still skeptical that a 1 BR owner can specify a 2 BR unit at resorts that have 1 BR themselves. And it certainly wouldn't be fair or reasonable to allow this option for CH members but not other 1 BR owners.

 

[Eric]

That part doesn't make alot of sense. Thats like saying I don't think it's fair that Maui trades better than Orlando. Marriott worked out a deal with II. That can't shock you , can it ?




And it certainly wouldn't be fair or reasonable to allow this option for CH members but not other 1 BR owners.[/QUOTE]

 

[Dean]

That part doesn't make alot of sense. Thats like saying I don't think it's fair that Maui trades better than Orlando. Marriott worked out a deal with II. That can't shock you , can it ?




And it certainly wouldn't be fair or reasonable to allow this option for CH members but not other 1 BR owners.

[/QUOTE]Apples and Oranges. What I am saying is that it is not fair to set up a single resort and give them the option of specifying a 2 BR at resorts that have 1 BR units given the other resorts in quesiton. This is not a trade power question but a procedural one. Trade power is a different issue and CH wouldn't be the only 1 BR units (non lockoff) that would trade very well and likely not the best trading 1 BR overall.

 

[Chemee]

The Six?

The info I have states that those who own a 1 BR at any of 6 resorts can request a 2 BR at resorts that do not have 1 BR units. .

Dean - which 6 resorts?

 

[Eric]

You might want to call II and complain. Let me know how that goes. While your at it, ask why Marriott owners get a 24 day hold rule. Maybe you can get that changed also



Apples and Oranges. What I am saying is that it is not fair to set up a single resort and give them the option of specifying a 2 BR at resorts that have 1 BR units given the other resorts in quesiton. This is not a trade power question but a procedural one. Trade power is a different issue and CH wouldn't be the only 1 BR units (non lockoff) that would trade very well and likely not the best trading 1 BR overall.[/QUOTE]

 

[Dean]

Dean - which 6 resorts?

It's all the Marriott built resorts that have true 1 BR non lockoff units. CH, GV, Maui, Kauai, Breckenridge & Aruba. I guess Vail got left out. This is info that can change even on the fly and certainly will if there are new resorts with true 1 BR units. But I'm guessing that even if there is a letter that is as specific as some would say here, that it's worth the paper it's written on. I'd love to hear from anyone who's started on ongoing search for a 2 BR only at the resorts that have 1 BR units.

 

[Dean]

You might want to call II and complain. Let me know how that goes. While your at it, ask why Marriott owners get a 24 day hold rule. Maybe you can get that changed also

No reason to and I know the reason Marriott owners get a priority period, that's one of the reasons I own Marriott.

 

[Chemee]

It's all the Marriott built resorts that have true 1 BR non lockoff units. CH, GV, Maui, Kauai, Breckenridge & Aruba. I guess Vail got left out. This is info that can change even on the fly and certainly will if there are new resorts with true 1 BR units. But I'm guessing that even if there is a letter that is as specific as some would say here, that it's worth the paper it's written on. I'd love to hear from anyone who's started on ongoing search for a 2 BR only at the resorts that have 1 BR units.

Thanks for the info. We own a 1 BR Aruba Ocean Club & were not aware of this. We have never requested an ongoing search for a 2 BR because we have never needed a 2 BR.