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95 minutes, everyone super polite, no hard sell. 2 docs copied here.

I am interested in 2 locations, both have studios, so 1500/2000 points would meet my needs. To help understand the calcuations attached, starts at $14,54 pp but discounted to$13.80/$13.08.

Incentives:
- as i have a Marriott hotel reservation coming up within 30 days, i get $2,000 off.
- permanent Bonvoy Gold Elite
- 3000/4000 1 time points valid for 3 years
- 1500/2000 1 time points if i use their financing
- nothing for my existing Vistana

Sampler: $995 for 4 nights poor choices (+$300 to include Hawaii etc) + 50,000 Bonvoy points. Bad deal compared to Vitana and Diamond Resorts Samplers

Their guess is fall for any integration announcement.
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So, immediately, I noticed this: " permanent bonvoy gold". It is not permanent, it is only for as long as you own enough points. So, if you bought it today, and a year from now sold it, you lose that automatic minimum status.

As far as the $995, depends where the locations are. For me, I always get at least a penny a point, so, 50,000 points is worth a minimum of $500 to me. That reduces the price you could say to $495, which may or may not be worth it.

Having a hard time following the document there. Is it $18,700 for 2000 points?
 

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95 minutes, everyone super polite, no hard sell. 2 docs copied here.

I am interested in 2 locations, both have studios, so 1500/2000 points would meet my needs. To help understand the calcuations attached, starts at $14,54 pp but discounted to$13.80/$13.08.

Incentives:
- as i have a Marriott hotel reservation coming up within 30 days, i get $2,000 off.
- permanent Bonvoy Gold Elite
- 3000/4000 1 time points valid for 3 years
- 1500/2000 1 time points if i use their financing
- nothing for my existing Vistana

Sampler: $995 for 4 nights poor choices (+$300 to include Hawaii etc) + 50,000 Bonvoy points. Bad deal compared to Vitana and Diamond Resorts Samplers

Their guess is fall for any integration announcement.
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I would not buy for studios and I'd wait a while to see what integration options you have. If I were going to buy, I'd go resale, cheaper and you lose nothing except the incentives which are not worth the difference IMO.
 

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So, immediately, I noticed this: " permanent bonvoy gold". It is not permanent, it is only for as long as you own enough points. So, if you bought it today, and a year from now sold it, you lose that automatic minimum status.

As far as the $995, depends where the locations are. For me, I always get at least a penny a point, so, 50,000 points is worth a minimum of $500 to me. That reduces the price you could say to $495, which may or may not be worth it.

Having a hard time following the document there. Is it $18,700 for 2000 points?
Hey Steve... sorry the docs didnt come thru great. Maybe the salesperson used a magic pen lol.The calculations go down the left side, first one 1500 points x $13.80 = $20,700 - $2,000 = $18,700.

Second page 2000 points x $13.08 = $26,160 - $2,000 = $24,160.

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I would not buy for studios and I'd wait a while to see what integration options you have. If I were going to buy, I'd go resale, cheaper and you lose nothing except the incentives which are not worth the difference IMO.
Just catching up on integration threads. You're right i could be best to just wait.

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The 4000 one time points could be valued around $2,500, FYI
 
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