The race to find a coronavirus treatment has one major obstacle: big pharma

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The race to find a coronavirus treatment has one major obstacle: big pharma.

The race to find a coronavirus treatment has one major obstacle: big pharma | Ara Darzi

AI companies and scientists are cooperating, but they desperately need access to pharmaceutical companies’ data, says Ara Darzi, director of the Institute of Global Health Innovation

www.theguardian.com

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Richard

 

[Old Hickory]

We should all quarantine from this kind of "news" until the curve of misinformation is flattened.

 

[Ralph Sir Edward]

The race to find a coronavirus treatment has one major obstacle: big pharma.

The race to find a coronavirus treatment has one major obstacle: big pharma | Ara Darzi

AI companies and scientists are cooperating, but they desperately need access to pharmaceutical companies’ data, says Ara Darzi, director of the Institute of Global Health Innovation

www.theguardian.com

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Richard

On the other hand. We plebes have access to so much information today, that it limits aspects of big pharma.

Let me give a non-COVID example.

Worried about coronary artery disease? Osteoporosis? Research Vitamin K-2.

(I'm fat,and eat bad, and had been on statins for over a decade, and had a very bad reaction to them. After trying and discarding other cholesterol medications, did research and ran into K-2. Went on it, and after 6 months gave myself a calcium score test. (sort of a MRI, looking for calcified plaques in the coronary arteries. Non invasive.) I came out with a score so low it, it put me in the top 3% for clear arteries for my sex and age. My primary care physician was annoyed (because I had tested myself on my own recognizance) and had me see a cardiologist. The cardiologist said that my chance of having a heart attack with my score was minuscule. Unfortunately, I didn't do a baseline before I started taking the K-2.)

 

[CalGalTraveler]

I stopped taking statins because it eats your brain like a mouse chews the insulation on a wire. Google statin and Alzheimer disease.

Thanks for the tip on K-2. Will look into it. Losing weight and managing diet also helps.

 

[SmithOp]

On the other hand. We plebes have access to so much information today, that it limits aspects of big pharma.

Let me give a non-COVID example.

Worried about coronary artery disease? Osteoporosis? Research Vitamin K-2.

(I'm fat,and eat bad, and had been on statins for over a decade, and had a very bad reaction to them. After trying and discarding other cholesterol medications, did research and ran into K-2. Went on it, and after 6 months gave myself a calcium score test. (sort of a MRI, looking for calcified plaques in the coronary arteries. Non invasive.) I came out with a score so low it, it put me in the top 3% for clear arteries for my sex and age. My primary care physician was annoyed (because I had tested myself on my own recognance) and had me see a cardiologist. The cardiologist said that my chance of having a heartattack with my score was minuscule. Unfortuanely, I didn't do a baseline before I started taking the K-2.)

Did you go cold turkey on the statins or gradually switch by taking statin and K2.

I wouldn’t mind trying something different, my good cholesterol always runs at the low limit, on 20mg of generic atorvastatin.


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[Ralph Sir Edward]

Cold turkey. They d*mn near killed me three years ago. I went from bouncing around as normal to a walker in 36 hours. Nobody (doctors) could figure out what was wrong. I had to diagnose myself, researched statins, as that was the only drug I was taking at the time, saw the complications that matched mine, and went off cold turkey. Started improving in 24 hours. Had to go into physical therapy for a month to be able to walk without a walker again. As it was, I was lucky. It could have hit the involuntary muscles, instead, in which case I would have been planted in 2-3 days. . .

Research K-2 first, before using it.

Here is a general article. (I did drill down to actual research papers, but I didn't keep the links.)

Everything You Need to Know About the Vitamin K2

Vitamin K was initially discovered as a nutrient involved in blood clotting. There are two forms: K1 (in plant foods) and K2 (in animal and fermented foods).

www.healthline.com

 

[Ralph Sir Edward]

Here is a survey article.

Proper Calcium Use: Vitamin K2 as a Promoter of Bone and Cardiovascular Health - PMC

Inadequate calcium intake can lead to decreased bone mineral density, which can increase the risk of bone fractures. Supplemental calcium promotes bone mineral density and strength and can prevent osteoporosis. Recent scientific evidence, however, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[rickandcindy23]

Good to know about statins. My stepdad takes them, and he is 86. He doesn't seem to have any major symptoms, but he is slipping a bit, forgetting things. He was an engineer and taught at DU (University of Denver) for years. He really should look into other treatments.

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

The race to find a coronavirus treatment has one major obstacle: big pharma.

The race to find a coronavirus treatment has one major obstacle: big pharma | Ara Darzi

AI companies and scientists are cooperating, but they desperately need access to pharmaceutical companies’ data, says Ara Darzi, director of the Institute of Global Health Innovation

www.theguardian.com

.


Richard

Thanks for posting Richard .

I know you are careful on posting information news articles that come from less “accredited “
news sources . I feel The Guardian (UK) is a creditable information source .

Also - thanks for also posting “ Alligator climbs fence “ type of story / regardless of where you find them .

 

[simpsontruckdriver]

Another example is anti-Malaria drug hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil). It's essentially a generic drug, it's also being used to treat Lupus. Big Pharma could easily add something to the drug and multiply the retail price hundreds of times, just like they did with Insulin and the Epi-Pen. So, instead of paying a generic price, the insurance agencies - or a person without insurance - would pay thousands for a dose. Medicare Part-D, which usually has the person pay under $10 for generics or 20% for specialty, would see the copay skyrocket.

TS