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The Point at Poipu rebranded to The Point at Poipu, a Hilton Vacation Club

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Separately, about the same time, Hilton looked into buying the developer rights, the remaining developer inventory, and the management contracts at the two Hawaii properties, but ultimately walked away. Had the deal gone through, the resorts would have been rebranded as Hilton properties.
An added comment. About that time (~2005) we stayed at KBC. While we were there I posted on TUG about the resort, specifically noting some issues with lagging maintenance. Specifically, I thought the property needed a thorough pressure washer cleaning (to remove dirt and grime buildup), followed by complete repainting of interiors and exteriors. I included specific examples.

A couple of days later I received a call from the property manager on our room phone, confirming that I was the person who posted the comments on TUG, and requesting that I arrange a site visit and walkthrough with him. I took him up on the offer. He readily acknowledged the issues, and intimated that during the negotiations with Hilton same maintenance activities had been put on hold. But they were then gearing up to address the items I had identified, as well complete some improvements in the pool, restaurant, and lobby that had similarly been put on hold.

He also comped our parking charges in the garage.
 

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An added comment. About that time (~2005) we stayed at KBC. While we were there I posted on TUG about the resort, specifically noting some issues with lagging maintenance. Specifically, I thought the property needed a thorough pressure washer cleaning (to remove dirt and grime buildup), followed by complete repainting of interiors and exteriors. I included specific examples.

A couple of days later I received a call from the property manager on our room phone, confirming that I was the person who posted the comments on TUG, and requesting that I arrange a site visit and walkthrough with him. I took him up on the offer. He readily acknowledged the issues, and intimated that during the negotiations with Hilton same maintenance activities had been put on hold. But they were then gearing up to address the items I had identified, as well complete some improvements in the pool, restaurant, and lobby that had similarly been put on hold.

He also comped our parking charges in the garage.
The biggest problem KBC has to face now is the beach erosion. Much more and they'll lose the sidewalk between the building and the ocean. They already lost the shower and most of the access points to the beach.
 

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The biggest problem KBC has to face now is the beach erosion. Much more and they'll lose the sidewalk between the building and the ocean. They already lost the shower and most of the access points to the beach.
Yeah - and that isn't just KBC. It's a problem in the whole Ka'anapali- Kehana area. Makes me appreciate more the lava bench shoreline at the Point.
 

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As per https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1016577/0000950150-98-000461.txt, the 4 Embassy Vacation Resorts (Poipu Point, Grand Beach, Lake Tahoe and Kaanapali Beach) have been acquired by Signature Resorts in 1994, 1995, 1996 and 1997 respectively.
Signature Resorts has been renamed to Sunterra in 1998 (see https://www.referenceforbusiness.com/history2/86/Sunterra-Corporation.html).

What is funny is Sunterra Resorts was a sub-brand under Signature resorts as per https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1016577/0000950150-98-000461.txt:
Through its primary resort brands, the Company offers Vacation Intervals in
each of the three principal price segments of the market (value, upscale
(characterized by high quality accommodations and service) and luxury
(characterized by elegant accommodations and personalized service)). In
addition, the Company operates points-based vacation clubs in North America and
Europe.

Sunterra Resorts. The Company's Sunterra Resorts, includes resorts in both
the value and upscale price segments which are not affiliated with any hotel
chain. Vacation Intervals at the Company's Sunterra Resorts generally sell for
$6,000 to $25,000 and are targeted to buyers with annual incomes ranging from
$35,000 to $80,000. The Company believes its Sunterra Resorts offer buyers an
economical alternative to resorts affiliated with brand-name lodging companies
(such as Embassy Vacation Resorts and Westin Vacation Club resorts) and
traditional vacation lodging alternatives.

Embassy Vacation Resorts. The Company's Embassy Vacation Resorts are
positioned in the upscale price segment of the market and are characterized by
high quality accommodations and service. Vacation Intervals at the Company's
four Embassy Vacation Resorts generally sell for $14,000 to $20,000 and are
targeted to buyers with annual incomes ranging from $60,000 to $150,000. Embassy
Vacation Resorts are designed to provide vacation ownership accommodations that
offer the same high quality and value that is represented by the more than 140
Embassy Suites hotels throughout North America. The Company is one of two
licensees and operators of Embassy Vacation Resorts, and is currently evaluating
additional resorts that could be operated as Embassy Vacation Resorts.

Westin Vacation Club Resort. The Company's Westin Vacation Club resort is
positioned in the luxury price segment of the market and is characterized by
elegant accommodations and personalized service. Vacation Intervals at Westin
Vacation Club resort generally sell for $16,000 to $25,000 and are targeted to
buyers with annual incomes ranging from $80,000 to $250,000.

LSI's Grand Vacation Club. As a result of the LSI Acquisition, the Company
acquired LSI's Grand Vacation Club points-based system and as a result of the
Global Acquisition, the Company acquired the Global Group's Global Vacation
Club, which it is integrating into the LSI system. Grand Vacation Club allows
members to purchase an annual allotment of points that can be redeemed for
occupancy rights at Grand Vacation Club's European resorts and at other
participating resorts. The Company markets the Grand Vacation Club in the United
Kingdom, Spain, France and Austria. Points in the Grand Vacation Club can
typically be purchased for approximately $220 a point. A typical one week stay
at a Grand Vacation Club resort requires approximately 46 points. Each Grand Vacation Club member
receives a new allotment of points each year throughout the term of its
membership in the club.

VI's Vacation Time Share Program. As a result of the VI Acquisition, the
Company acquired VI's Vacation Time Share Program (the "VTS Program") which it
markets to buyers in the United States, Canada and Mexico. The VTS Program is a
points-based system much like LSI's Grand Vacation Club in that it allows
members to purchase points that are redeemed for occupancy rights at
participating VTS Program resorts. Points in the VTS Program typically can be
purchased for approximately $119 a point. A typical one week stay at a VI resort
requires approximately 91 points. Each VTS Program member receives a new
allotment of points each year throughout the term of its membership in the
program.
 
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In the same document, https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1016577/0000950150-98-000461.txt, they say:
The Company acquired a 30.43% partnership interest in the Embassy Vacation
Resort Poipu Point in November 1994.
In November 1997, a partnership of which the Company is a managing general
partner acquired the Embassy Suites Resort at Kaanapali Beach, Maui,
Hawaii. A subsidiary of the Company owns a 24% partnership interest in the
acquiring entity. The Company intends to convert 157 of the 413 suites at
the resort into vacation ownership units. Sales are expected to commence
during the second quarter of 1998.

From https://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/irol/11/114123/2005_Annual_Report.pdf,
In July 2004, we purchased the remaining outstanding 77% partnership interest in Ka’anapali, resulting in the full consolidation of its operating results beginning at that time. In August 2005, we purchased the remaining outstanding 70% partnership interest in Poipu, resulting in the full consolidation of its operating results beginning at that time

After that, Sunterra created the Hawaii Collection in 2005 (https://owners.diamondresorts.com/w... Vacations Members Association Hawaii Inc.pdf) and stop selling deeded weeks at those two resorts I think.
 

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can this resort book with hilton grand vacation points? anyone has the point chart?
 

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You have to be a MAX Member.
 

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An added comment. About that time (~2005) we stayed at KBC. While we were there I posted on TUG about the resort, specifically noting some issues with lagging maintenance. Specifically, I thought the property needed a thorough pressure washer cleaning (to remove dirt and grime buildup), followed by complete repainting of interiors and exteriors. I included specific examples.

A couple of days later I received a call from the property manager on our room phone, confirming that I was the person who posted the comments on TUG, and requesting that I arrange a site visit and walkthrough with him. I took him up on the offer. He readily acknowledged the issues, and intimated that during the negotiations with Hilton same maintenance activities had been put on hold. But they were then gearing up to address the items I had identified, as well complete some improvements in the pool, restaurant, and lobby that had similarly been put on hold.

He also comped our parking charges in the garage.
How did the resort property manager know you have posted on the TUG website about some resort issues and lagging maintenance issues ?
 

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Can DRI / Club Members exchange into this resort without being a MAX members?
Yes. It's branded as Hilton now, but it's Hilton Vacation Club which is the new name for Diamond Resorts. Booking for DRI members hasn't changed.
 

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Yes. It's branded as Hilton now, but it's Hilton Vacation Club which is the new name for Diamond Resorts. Booking for DRI members hasn't changed.
Thanks you for that piece of information. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::clap:
 

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Just got our 2024 point at poipu maintenance fees, Hilton increased 400.00 per week. Largest increase ever!
 

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How did the resort property manager know you have posted on the TUG website about some resort issues and lagging maintenance issues ?
Because they actively monitored TUG for comments.
 

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Just got our 2024 point at poipu maintenance fees, Hilton increased 400.00 per week. Largest increase ever!
Part of the increase goes to the refurb that we already paid for from diamond maintenance fees!
 
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Because they actively monitored TUG for comments.
I guess the question, out of 215 units how did they know to call your unit based on your post on TUG? Are some of us here not as anonymous here as one would think?
 

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I guess the question, out of 215 units how did they know to call your unit based on your post on TUG? Are some of us here not as anonymous here as one would think?
They looked for the guy at the hot tub with the TUG T Shirt?
 

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I guess the question, out of 215 units how did they know to call your unit based on your post on TUG? Are some of us here not as anonymous here as one would think?
I think I mentioned the unit we were in when I made a post about resort conditions.
 
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