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Singapore has a beer made from sewage water

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This is not something I would find appealing.

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There is a finite amount of water available on earth. All the water at one point and time has been sewage water. Whether it be the sewage of dinosaurs or human sewage that has been treated and sent back through the aquifer. The water in used for the beer in this situation is probably cleaner than the water that comes out of most city water systems.
 

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ALL water is recycled again and again. Taken to an extreme, astronauts reuse every drop of liquid as drinking water on a daily basis.
 

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ALL water is recycled again and again. Taken to an extreme, astronauts reuse every drop of liquid as drinking water on a daily basis.
Bad news & good news.

First, in the future all drinking water will come from recycled water that was flushed down toilets.

Ew. That's awful. What's the good news ?

That is the good news. The bad news is there won't be enough to go around.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​
 
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This is not something I would find appealing.

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Bad news & good news.

First, in the future all drinking water will be come from recycled water that was flushed down toilets.

Ew. That's awful. What's the good news ?

That is the good news. The bad news is there won't be enough to go around.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

Definitely not enough water to go around if you live in the southwest. Plenty of naturally recycled water in Virginia (for now)
 

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Definitely not enough water to go around if you live in the southwest. Plenty of naturally recycled water in Virginia (for now)
Our tap never ran dry when we went to Palm Desert and Scottsdale this past summer.
 

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First, in the future all drinking water will come from recycled water that was flushed down toilets.
-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​
That's not in the future, that is now.

When I'm in Colorado, everyone downhill of me is drinking my toilet water. That's just a fact. And those of you who live on the coast? You're drinking toilet water from everyone that lives at a higher elevation than you, which is basically everyone else.

This really shouldn't surprise anyone.

Kurt
 

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There is a finite amount of water available on earth. All the water at one point and time has been sewage water. Whether it be the sewage of dinosaurs or human sewage that has been treated and sent back through the aquifer. The water in used for the beer in this situation is probably cleaner than the water that comes out of most city water systems.
Same people, different thread. They are just scared of anything new or different. A common theme among the tin foil hat crowd. They will scour the interwebs for things that they think support their backward beliefs and post them. And the beat goes on...
 

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That's not in the future, that is now.

When I'm in Colorado, everyone downhill of me is drinking my toilet water. That's just a fact. And those of you who live on the coast? You're drinking toilet water from everyone that lives at a higher elevation than you, which is basically everyone else.

This really shouldn't surprise anyone.

Kurt
Our toilet water is treated to nearly drinkable standards then piped miles out in the ocean. Not put in rivers or aquifers.
 

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Our toilet water is treated to nearly drinkable standards then piped miles out in the ocean. Not put in rivers or aquifers.
How is that really any better? Doesn't it cause dilution of the saltwater in the places it is released? Putting it back into the aquifer is probably the best route to take. The main issue with water treatment isn't the resulting clean water, but rather the yucky stuff (sludge) that comes out of it.
 

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With very, very, very limited exceptions, every molecule of water we drink is older than the sun. This also means that by weight, most of our bodies is also older than the sun.

A non-story. But great for identifying the Disgust-Paradox.
 

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How is that really any better? Doesn't it cause dilution of the saltwater in the places it is released? Putting it back into the aquifer is probably the best route to take. The main issue with water treatment isn't the resulting clean water, but rather the yucky stuff (sludge) that comes out of it.
My post was responding to the claim that everyone downhill is drinking other's upstream sewage.

But no, the amount poured in vs. the vastness of the ocean is utterly inconsequential. Also almost all of the water that is poured in came from the ocean through evaporation sans the salt. It is a very efficient cycle to keep things relatively the same.
 

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But no, the amount poured in vs. the vastness of the ocean is utterly inconsequential. Also almost all of the water that is poured in came from the ocean through evaporation sans the salt. It is a very efficient cycle to keep things relatively the same.
But the vastness is of the entire ocean. The water being returned is just in a small area. At some point it will disperse, but it could still have a negative effect on the ecosystem right where it is released. Just like warm water coming out of power plants into the ocean. The ecosystem there is far different than it would be if the water wasn't released at all. Rainwater also returns to the ocean as both rain and runoff. Taking water from the aquifer and returning it to the ocean doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.
 

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But the vastness is of the entire ocean. The water being returned is just in a small area. At some point it will disperse, but it could still have a negative effect on the ecosystem right where it is released. Just like warm water coming out of power plants into the ocean. The ecosystem there is far different than it would be if the water wasn't released at all. Rainwater also returns to the ocean as both rain and runoff. Taking water from the aquifer and returning it to the ocean doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.
No it is almost instantly absorbed. Maybe right as the pipe empties in a very very small area. It is meaningless. Think of giant rivers pouring magnitudes of fresh water into oceans. Salinity is only marginally affected near the coast. The wastewater is tiny in comparison.
 

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No it is almost instantly absorbed. Maybe right as the pipe empties in a very very small area. It is meaningless. Think of giant rivers pouring magnitudes of fresh water into oceans. Salinity is only marginally affected near the coast. The wastewater is tiny in comparison.
Still seems unnecessary if they are taking the drinking water from the aquifer and then dumping it back into the ocean. Why not put it back into the aquifer?

I'll also add, it seems to make more sense to put it back into the aquifer. With that, it is available to the water supply much faster. By putting it back into the ocean you need to rely on evaporation and rain again to make that happen. With drought conditions, putting it back into the ocean doesn't make as much sense. Unless of course they utilize a desalination of salt water, which they don't and of course has its own host of issues. If the reality is that it is as good as drinking water from the tap (probably better actually), then it should just be re-injected back into the drinking water supply with other sources of water where it is treated for water distribution.
 
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Still seems unnecessary if they are taking the drinking water from the aquifer and then dumping it back into the ocean. Why not put it back into the aquifer?

I'll also add, it seems to make more sense to put it back into the aquifer. With that, it is available to the water supply much faster. By putting it back into the ocean you need to rely on evaporation and rain again to make that happen. With drought conditions, putting it back into the ocean doesn't make as much sense. Unless of course they utilize a desalination of salt water, which they don't and of course has its own host of issues.
The voters say, 'Here, take my money and process my wastewater to dump in the river, so that it will flow ultimately to an ocean, where it will deposit whatever in it isn't H2O and that will be evaporated and fall in rain upstream of somebody else.' But heaven forbid we should simply inject it back into the aquifer(s) untreated- THAT wouldn't be kosher.
 

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Our toilet water is treated to nearly drinkable standards then piped miles out in the ocean. Not put in rivers or aquifers.
In San Diego, don't they reuse the outflow water from the sewage treatment plants for irrigation and to keep golf courses green?
 

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Still seems unnecessary if they are taking the drinking water from the aquifer and then dumping it back into the ocean. Why not put it back into the aquifer?
The reason is: All it takes is a mechanical failure at the processing facility and you have contaminated an aquifer FOREVER! Aquifers recharge by filtering water naturally through layers of soil and rock. If you were to accidentally contaminate with bacteria, viruses or chemicals you could never clear it.

Look at contamination plumes of surface water from unlined pits/ponds and you will see the disaster that could happen. That is why running the Keystone Pipeline through the Ogallala Aquifer was such a BAD idea.
 
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In San Diego, don't they reuse the outflow water from the sewage treatment plants for irrigation and to keep golf courses green?
Yes there are recycled water programs for irrigation uses. I believe they are also working on an actual reclaimed water project, but I am unaware of any approvals to directly pump such water into aquifers ( I'm not sure if CA regulations allow this.). There is also an extensive desalination project in north county.
 

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I'm not worried. If I was I wouldn't be swimming in the pools or using the hot tubs at the resorts. Maybe a little worried because I don't go in past my neck.

Bill
 

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Yes there are recycled water programs for irrigation uses. I believe they are also working on an actual reclaimed water project, but I am unaware of any approvals to directly pump such water into aquifers ( I'm not sure if CA regulations allow this.). There is also an extensive desalination project in north county.

In other words, you don't know. :p

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In other words, you don't know. :p

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I know that there is a recycled water program for irrigation uses in the City of SD. I know there is an extensive desalination project in north county. I know no agency in San Diego is pumping treated affluent into aquifers.
 
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