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SF Gate addressing the over tourism issue on Maui

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It's not just in Hawaii. We see some of the same inconsiderate behaviors the article discusses from tourists staying at the condo complex where we own a second home on Hilton Head Island, SC. No respect for property rules, elevator abuse, tearing off the gate to the beach, etc. Crowds have been huge this summer all over the island. It seems to be the way many people behave now more than something just specific to Hawaii.
 

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It's not just in Hawaii. We see some of the same inconsiderate behaviors the article discusses from tourists staying at the condo complex where we own a second home on Hilton Head Island, SC. No respect for property rules, elevator abuse, tearing off the gate to the beach, etc. Crowds have been huge this summer all over the island. It seems to be the way many people behave now more than something just specific to Hawaii.
It appears that the era of polite and considerate travellers is over.
 

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Seen plenty of bad behavior last week at Shadow Ridge. Kids playing with the ADA pool lifts. I don't mean just going up and down, but doing chin ups with it as it was going up. Two hanging off it it as it went up or down. This is how they end up broke and we have to pay to fix it. I finally told them off. Someone stole my towel that was sitting on a lounger. Key is, make the towel look dirty, don't leave it folded or it will get taken. Their response was only "sorry" when I told them those towels belonged to someone. I guess there isn't much else they could day.

Have also seen trash bags from the villa at checkout just left out by the sidewalk at Desert Springs Villas. Either take it to the trash bin or leave it in the room. Birds had already started to pick it apart.

I think to some degree, people have forgot how to act in a civilized society.
 
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Acting disrespectful and defying rules and regulations is being taught by certain personalities on social media and radio.
 

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And everyone is afraid to say anything about it. Right now the rude bullies are getting away with a lot of bad behavior.
 

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Acting disrespectful and defying rules and regulations is being taught by certain personalities on social media and radio.
And everyone is afraid to say anything about it. Right now the rude bullies are getting away with a lot of bad behavior.

And it is certainly not limited to Maui.
 

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I wonder how much of the big influx of tourists to Hawaii might be tied to the fact that many other parts of the globe still have closed borders. With so many other vacation desintation blocked, people are choosing a safe domestic destination that still feels upscale..

Of course that does not explain the outright poor behavior of so many tourists.
 

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I wonder how much of the big influx of tourists to Hawaii might be tied to the fact that many other parts of the globe still have closed borders. With so many other vacation desintation blocked, people are choosing a safe domestic destination that still feels upscale..

Of course that does not explain the outright poor behavior of so many tourists.
I suspect this is a big cause. Along with higher levels of tourism to many US states and parks.
 

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As a non-US citizen I hate to suggest this, but perhaps the level of tourist consideration appears to be down because there are really no foreign tourists so to speak? Instead of having a mix of US visitors and foreign tourists, these places are being flooded with almost 100% US folks?
 

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Seen plenty of bad behavior last week at Shadow Ridge. Kids playing with the ADA pool lifts. I don't mean just going up and down, but doing chin ups with it as it was going up. Two hanging off it it as it went up or down. This is how they end up broke and we have to pay to fix it. I finally told them off. Someone stole my towel that was sitting on a lounger. Key is, make the towel look dirty, don't leave it folded or it will get taken. Their response was only "sorry" when I told them those towels belonged to someone. I guess there isn't much else they could day.

Have also seen trash bags from the villa at checkout just left out by the sidewalk at Desert Springs Villas. Either take it to the trash Ibin or leave it in the room. Birds had already started to pick it apart.

I think to some degree, people have forgot how to act in a civilized society.
The demographics of summer guests is quite a bit different than winter (or snow-bird) guests.

When we've been there in the summer, the average age is (my estimate) under 25 or 30 years old or perhaps even younger. In the winter it is probably around 60 or 70 year old. In the summer, I've seen groups of 1 or 2 adults with 8 to 10 kids in tow. So, many rules are disregarded. In the "Quieter" pool of DSV2, I've seen kids cannon-balling, tossing footballs, floating on air mattresses and sometimes being there w/o an adult.

I prefer the shoulder season or winter. The people with gray hair or no hair seem to still remember how to act in civilized society.
 

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To be fair, many of the parents of these misbehaving kids were raised by those that are 60-70 today.
 

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Even last year at a resort they said that kids were running rampant and destroying a BBQ area - maybe it's locked in mentality and sudden freedom? Rumpism?
 

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Even last year at a resort they said that kids were running rampant and destroying a BBQ area - maybe it's locked in mentality and sudden freedom? Rumpism?
What does Rumpism mean?
 

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The bad behavior is everywhere. Our property on the Idaho/Montana border is remote.... off-grid. Last weekend driving in every 15 feet or so there were canned tossed beside the road. A month ago walking the dogs I came across 2 moose carcasses that had been poached....We used to see Mama moose and yearling regularly and we are pretty certain they are the carcasses. People trespass all the time even though it is posted. People just seem to think the rules don't exist anymore. It is really sad.

If it is younger people....I think we might conclude that time outs don't work
 
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